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  posted on 10/24/2008 at 04:19 PM
American Crew Regains Control of Hijacked Ship, One Pirate in Custody
Wednesday, April 08, 2009

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American crew members aboard a U.S.-flagged ship have regained control of the vessel hijacked by pirates off the coast of Somalia Wednesday, FOX News confirms.

Defense Department officials confirmed that one pirate is in custody. A U.S. official said the status of the other pirates is unknown but they were reported to "be in the water."

"All the crew members are trained in security detail in how to deal with piracy," Maersk CEO John Reinhart told reporters. "As merchant vessels we do not carry arms. We have ways to push back, but we do not carry arms."

John Harris, CEO of HollowPoint Security Services, which specializes in maritime security, said that the crew's overtaking the pirates could help prevent future hijackings, especially since the military can't be protect the entire high seas.

"Any time you can get intel from them, they can give you any kind of significant information, they more than likely will not, but anything we can get will always help us in the future," Harris told FOX News.

"Naval vessels ... can't be everywhere at one time, just like law enforcement," he said, noting that the U.S. Navy has been protecting the most vulnerable shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean.

"If you saturate an area long enough in the shipping lanes, if you saturate it with war ships long enough, they venture out. In this case that's what they did. They want 350 miles out of the coast where no Naval vessels were present," he said.

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As for the boldness of the pirates taking a ship operating under a U.S. flag, Harris said pirates don't care which ship they grab.

"We have not seen it matters at all. This is a business to them. They are not intended on carrying what cargo we're carrying. All they want to do is see a dollar figure. They know if they catch a big ship, they get big money. All they want is ransom out of this. They are not worried about crew or cargo," Harris said.

Pentagon Spokesman Bryan Whitman said earlier Wednesday he has "no information to suggest the 20 crew members of the Maersk Alabama have been harmed by the pirates."

Photo EssaysSomali Pirates Seize 20 Americans
During its one communication with the ship, Maersk was told the crew was safe, Reinhart said. He would not release the names of the crew members.

Cmdr. Jane Campbell, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, said that it was the first pirate attack "involving U.S. nationals and a U.S.-flagged vessel in recent memory."

Wednesday's incident was the first such hostage-taking involving U.S. citizens in 200 years. In December 2008, Somali pirates chased and shot at a U.S. cruise ship with more than 1,000 people on board but failed to hijack the vessel.

The top two commanders of the ship graduated from the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, the Cape Cod Times reported Wednesday.

Andrea Phillips, the wife of Capt. Richard Phillips of Underhill, Vermont., said her husband has sailed in those waters "for quite some time" and a hijacking was perhaps "inevitable."

The Cape Cod Times reported his second in command, Capt. Shane Murphy, was also among the 20 Americans aboard the Maersk Alabama.

Capt. Joseph Murphy, a professor at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, says his son is a 2001 graduate who recently talked to a class about the dangers of pirates.

The newspaper reported the 33-year-old Murphy had phoned his mother to say he was safe.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said earlier Wednesday the White House is "closely monitoring the apparent hijacking of the U.S.-flagged ship in the Indian Ocean and assessing a course of action to resolve this situation."

"Our top priority is the personal safety of the crew members on board," Gibbs said in a written statement.

The 17,000-ton Maersk Alabama was carrying emergency relief to Mombasa, Kenya, at the time it was hijacked, for the Copenhagen-based container shipping group A.P. Moller-Maersk.

Robert A. Wood, Deputy State Department Spokesman, told reporters the ship was carrying "vegetable oil, corn soy blend and other basic food commodities bound for Africa."

Just last week, A. P. Moller-Mærsk Group sold eight containerships to Maersk Line Limited to be run under a U.S. flag. The U.S. company also recently replaced eight older units flying U.S. flags, including the Maersk Alabama.

Flying under a U.S. flag means the ships are bound by U.S. law maritime regulations and can travel directly from U.S. port to U.S. port.

Just a day earlier, the Navy's 5th fleet warned "merchant mariners should be increasingly vigilant" when operating off the coast of Somalia.

"The area the ship was taken in, is not where the focus of our ships has been," Christensen told The Associated Press in a phone call from the 5th Fleet's Mideast headquarters in Bahrain.

Maersk does business with the U.S. Department of Defense, but Christensen said the vessel was not working under a Pentagon contract when hijacked.

The vessel is the sixth to be seized within a week and the first with an all-American crew.

At least 12 of the Americans aboard the Maersk Alabama are members of the Seafarers International Union, spokesman Jordan Biscardo said.










I must admit, deep down, I sort of admire these crazy "pirates" ... all surrounded by NATO war ships...but only in a nostalgic sort of way, not in a "we're gonna kill the innocent crew if we don't get our 20 mil" kind of way. I honestly am astonished this sort of thing still goes on in this crazy world:


Pirates to kill crew on arms ship if NATO ships attack

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Food and water are running low on a Ukrainian arms ship hijacked by Somali pirates, and a pirate spokesman warned Thursday if the ship was attacked by NATO forces its 20-man crew would be among those killed.

Spokesman Sugule Ali also mocked comments by Tomex Team, the firm operating the MV Faina cargo ship, which said it has accumulated only $1 million toward the $20 million ransom the pirates initially demanded.

"That is worthless," he said. "It would only pay for several nights' stay in a hotel!"

However, Ali declined to say whether the pirates had lowered their ransom request.

He told The Associated Press that supplies were running out but the pirates would share what remained with the crew.

"We Somalis don't eat in front of a hungry person," he said, speaking Thursday by satellite phone. "We will share our food with them."

But he repeated his promise to fight back if attacked, regardless of the arrival of a flotilla of NATO warships.

"Either we get the money or hold onto the ship. And if attacked, we will fight back to the bitter end," Ali said.

"The important thing, though, is if we die they will die too," he added, referring to the Faina's crew.

The Faina was heading for a Kenyan port with a cargo of 33 battle tanks and heavy weapons when armed pirates seized it September 25 off the coast of Somalia. The ship is now anchored off Somalia's coast near the central town of Hobyo, where Ali was seeking medical treatment Thursday.

U.S. warships have surrounded the Faina for weeks, making sure its heavy weapons don't fall into the hands of any insurgent groups linked to al Qaeda.

Pirate attacks off the coast of Somalia this year have surged 75 percent, the International Maritime Bureau said Thursday, calling for serious international action against the brigands who "operate with impunity."

It says the waters off Somalia, including the Gulf of Aden, are the world's most dangerous, accounting for 63 -- or nearly a third -- of the 199 reported pirate attacks worldwide between January and September 2008.

The agency urged navies around the world to target the pirate's main supply ships before they succeed in hijacking cargo vessels.

"The locations and descriptions of these mother ships are known. We therefore call upon all governments to direct their navies to disrupt the activities of the pirates and their mother ships. This is vital to protect this major world seaway," bureau director Pottengal Mukundan said in a statement.

The lawless Horn of Africa nation has had no central government since a group of clan-based warlords overthrew a socialist dictator in 1991.


[Edited on 11/17/2008 by heineken515]

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  posted on 10/24/2008 at 05:03 PM
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I honestly am astonished this sort of thing still goes on in this crazy world
This stuff has been going on for quite some time with Somalia. When these Somalian splinter groups started turning to piracy it was an act of protest against overfishing of the waters they had long depended on but it's since obviously become a very profitable business for them (and has absolutely no connection to their fishing industry). Wouldn't want to be on a smaller cruise ship travelling these waters. And I have to wonder who and where the distribution of their 'pirate booty' extends to.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2008 at 06:02 PM
From what I've read, piracy has been going on in various parts of the world pretty much forever. This is a wild story, though, with the priates in a standoff with NATO.

There are many places it isn't safe for small craft to sail, and the Pacific coast of Mexico is one of them.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2008 at 06:28 PM
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Somalia is the hotbed of piracy right now. This particular situation is scaruy because of what the cargo is on the ship. Nobody wants to see it fall into the wrong hands.


You are right. You really have a great insight to things.


And you are a troll.

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  posted on 11/17/2008 at 01:50 PM
Crazy pirates at it again...

Somali Pirates Grab Saudi Oil Tanker
By REUTERS
Published: November 17, 2008
Filed at 9:44 a.m. ET

Times Topics: Piracy at SeaDUBAI, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Pirates have seized a Saudi-owned supertanker fully laden with oil off east Africa, capturing the biggest vessel yet in a shipping zone where Somali pirates strike almost daily, the U.S. navy said.

Saudi-owned television station Al Arabyia said the Sirius Star had been freed, citing an unnamed official Saudi source, but the U.S. navy and Saudi Aramco, which owns the supertanker, both said they had no knowledge of any release.

The hijacking of the vessel will add to pressure for concerted international action to tackle the threat posed by pirates from anarchic Somalia to one of the world's busiest shipping routes.

"This is unprecedented. It's the largest ship that we've seen pirated," said Lieutenant Nathan Christensen, a spokesman for the U.S. Fifth Fleet. "It's three times the size of an aircraft carrier."

The Sirius Star held a cargo of as much as two million barrels of oil -- more than one quarter of Saudi Arabia's daily production. Reports of the hijacking helped trim early losses in global crude oil prices.

The hijacking, 450 nautical miles (830 km) southeast of Mombasa, Kenya, was in an area far beyond the Gulf of Aden, where most of the attacks on shipping have taken place.

Somali pirates have increasingly shown signs of getting bolder in their attacks and striking further afield.

The Sirius Star had been heading for the United States via the Cape of Good Hope at the southern tip of Africa, skirting the continent instead of heading through the Gulf of Aden and then the Suez (NYSE:SZEZY) Canal.

There were no reports of damage to the ship, Christensen said.

Christensen declined to say if the U.S. navy was considering taking action to rescue the tanker. "We are evaluating the situation," he said.

The vessel has 25 crew from Croatia, Britain, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia, the U.S. Navy said in a statement.

The ship is Liberian-flagged, and owned and operated by state oil giant Saudi Aramco's shipping unit Vela International. The vessel was launched in March.

Aramco and Vela officials were unavailable for comment on Monday.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2008 at 04:20 PM
Don't you think they should start arming these cargo ships with some kind of security forces to stop these invasions before they start??? Mount a few M60s on the perimiter of these ships and I bet the pirates don't make it onto these ships.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2008 at 04:45 PM
maybe a group of us should get together and become pirates?/

 

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  posted on 11/17/2008 at 04:48 PM
I don't wanna be a pirate....

 

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i wrote a comicbook once about pirates

 

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  posted on 11/17/2008 at 06:43 PM
Breaker 19, we got us a convoy.......................

 

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I can't believe these pirates can pull off capturing ships the size of the saudi oil tanker they just got. To be able to get on board and get it back to the coast without a naval power stopping the fools.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2008 at 03:40 PM
I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2008 at 03:47 PM
I want to sing and dance.
I want to sing and dance.
I want to be a pirate in the Pirates of Penzance.
With me silver buckled slippers and me tight shiny pants.
I want to sing and dance.


 

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  posted on 11/18/2008 at 03:49 PM
Most of these ships have security personnel on board. Just not crazy ass pirate fighting security. As a great man once said "when you got nothing, you got nothing to lose".

Think of it this way if someone points an armour piercing rocket at your ship full of oil and states we are going to blow a hole in this baby unless you hand over the controls I am preety sure to avoid the env. damage, the lo$$ of the ship and the death of a bunch of guys making $15.00 an hour the captain is instructed to give the contriols over to the pirates.

The pirates have no way to sell the oil all they want is ransom for ship and crew. I'm sure the saudi's will come up with the $$$. The amount they stand to lose for the ship and cargo will open up their wallets.

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?
Somalia is a stateless society ... hard to argue reason with anarchists, many of whom are probably living at poverty level and starving. And they've started taking this outside of what was previously considered Somalian waters now. I think I read somewhere that the UN is going to become more involved here to attempt to get this under control but with no central government in Somalia ... ???

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?
Somalia is a stateless society ... hard to argue reason with anarchists, many of whom are probably living at poverty level and starving. And they've started taking this outside of what was previously considered Somalian waters now. I think I read somewhere that the UN is going to become more involved here to attempt to get this under control but with no central government in Somalia ... ???


I think the UN observers are already in boats circling the area. Expect a resolution any time now.

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?
Somalia is a stateless society ... hard to argue reason with anarchists, many of whom are probably living at poverty level and starving. And they've started taking this outside of what was previously considered Somalian waters now. I think I read somewhere that the UN is going to become more involved here to attempt to get this under control but with no central government in Somalia ... ???


I think the UN observers are already in boats circling the area. Expect a resolution any time now.


You're right. Nuke the vessel immediately. As a matter of fact, kill every single person in a 500 mile radius. That should take care of that, huh?

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?
Somalia is a stateless society ... hard to argue reason with anarchists, many of whom are probably living at poverty level and starving. And they've started taking this outside of what was previously considered Somalian waters now. I think I read somewhere that the UN is going to become more involved here to attempt to get this under control but with no central government in Somalia ... ???


I think the UN observers are already in boats circling the area. Expect a resolution any time now.


You're right. Nuke the vessel immediately. As a matter of fact, kill every single person in a 500 mile radius. That should take care of that, huh?


Help this guy out John, he seems to have a problem with sarcasim

 

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I understand the movie about this incident is rated RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
 

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  posted on 11/18/2008 at 11:42 PM
we really should consider being pirates
go to south america get us some ol ladys

comeback raid ships as they come into port
and all the other glorifying funstuff

 

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I wonder who could possibly step in and make sure these terrorists don't continue this type of behavior?

Maybe someone can sit down and talk to them, they will prolly listen to a well thought out conversation.




If I didn't know you better, I would think you are being sarcastic.



The cost of arming these ships and putting qualified security on them would be huge. There are many ships that go through those waters. It would also be too costly to reroute them away from that area. The only answer is a multinational military response against Somalia. But, correct me if I'm wrong, that has been tried without success before.


But don't we now live in a more civilized world, why is this stuff still happening?
Somalia is a stateless society ... hard to argue reason with anarchists, many of whom are probably living at poverty level and starving. And they've started taking this outside of what was previously considered Somalian waters now. I think I read somewhere that the UN is going to become more involved here to attempt to get this under control but with no central government in Somalia ... ???


I think the UN observers are already in boats circling the area. Expect a resolution any time now.


You're right. Nuke the vessel immediately. As a matter of fact, kill every single person in a 500 mile radius. That should take care of that, huh?


Help this guy out John, he seems to have a problem with sarcasim




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You're right. Nuke the vessel immediately. As a matter of fact, kill every single person in a 500 mile radius. That should take care of that, huh?


Isn't that what the Russians did in that theatre a few years back with the terrorists that held people hostage? Although I believe they used gas. Either way, I think they actually did kill every single person regardless if they were a hostage or not. That went over well. ;-)

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 11:57 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081119/ap_on_bi_ge/piracy;_ylt=AgO7Xm9lbUbOlEp uy1j31Nas0NUE

Old news by now.


Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship

 

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