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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 04:15 PM
So why does it offend people when you call Barry by his middle name HUSSEIN? It offends me when they call him B.O.

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According to Snopescom <http://snopes.com/> , Princeton was requested to put a 'restriction' on distribution of any copies of the thesis of Michelle Obama (a/k/a/ Michelle laVaughn Robinson) saying it could not be made available until November 5, 2008 but when it was published on a
political website they decided they would lift the restriction.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp <http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp>
Subj: Thesis - Michele Obama aka Michelle LaVaughn Robinson

OBAMA'S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED

In her senior thesis at Princeton , Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama
stated that America was a nation founded on 'crime and hatred'.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were 'ineradicably racist'. The
1985 thesis, titled 'Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community' was
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to 'Whites at Princeton , it often
seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first...' However, it was reported
by a fellow black classmate, 'If those 'Whites at Princeton ' really saw Michelle
as one who always would 'be Black first,' it seems that she gave them that
impression'.
Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms 'separationist' and
'integrationist' when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a 'separationist' view of race.
'By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as
a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation
of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an
integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.'
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to
her 'further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure
that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full
participant.'
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but
she elevates black over white in her world.


Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
'There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black
community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize
all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.'

What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first
lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action
policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
'Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments.'

Michelle Obama's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students
at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness
. But rather than
celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common
American culture more than they value the color of their skin. 'I hoped that
these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of
identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational
path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a
certain level of identification with the black community. However, these
findings do not support this possibility.'
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire?
Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see
Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted
with one another.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and
world view seen through a race-based prism. This is a very
divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold
damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama
administration.


Michelle Obama's intellectually refined racism should give all
Americans pause for deep concern.

Now maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to
grind with America Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously
racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will.
PS: We paid for her scholarship.

 
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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 04:27 PM
I'm going to vote for Obama because I think he may be ineffective enough to put a screeching halt to some of the run away problems this country has. I know, strange logic. I still support Hillary and am not happy over the way the Obama camp treated her during the campaign. My candidate of choice has flaws, but the other party has even greater ones. I wish we had a 'none of the above' box to check. This year I think it would win hands down!

 

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 04:29 PM
Hmmn... Maybe the "whitey" tape does exist afterall. It'll be fun to see all the Comrades trying to shut this one down once it starts to spread. BarryO apparently didn't need to be friends with William Ayers, he essentially married Ayers' female doppleganger.

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 04:45 PM
it may have worked for her in 85

but its 2008
and we have alot more latino,s than in 85

and alot more of them have it out for black people

than the whites ever did

 

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 05:57 PM
Im voting for obama because he has a better hair-do than mccain.
 

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 06:02 PM

 

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 07:33 PM
It is always the same old story written by Blacks when talking about racisim,all they think of is themselves while Those people who founded this land and that includes Meso Americans from Mexico and south america still remain the biggest race of people ever discriminated against to this day...sad indeed.. ...

 

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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 07:38 PM
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It is always the same old story written by Blacks when talking about racisim,all they think of is themselves while Those people who founded this land and that includes Meso Americans from Mexico and south america still remain the biggest race of people ever discriminated against to this day...sad indeed.. ...


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  posted on 9/15/2008 at 07:40 PM
All things considered, after what the white man did to the Native Americans, we've got a lot of nerve complaining about immigration.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 01:19 PM
From the thesis it looks like Mrs Obama has a lot of nerve period. Seems to fit well with the Reverand Wright point of view. You know he is the one that Barak thanked and praised so many times before he had to throw him under the bus to stay on top of Hillary (that's an ugly picture).

And I didn't use his middle name "Hussein" this time.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 01:25 PM
I'll say the same thing about this when it came up and was discussed several months ago:

Find one person who is the same in ideals, beliefs and worldview as they were when they were in college, and over 20 years ago to boot.

Hold me accountable for everything I thought, did and said in college and I'd be out of a job, divorced and in the gutter passed out with a beer bong in my hand.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 01:39 PM
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I'll say the same thing about this when it came up and was discussed several months ago:

Find one person who is the same in ideals, beliefs and worldview as they were when they were in college, and over 20 years ago to boot.

Hold me accountable for everything I thought, did and said in college and I'd be out of a job, divorced and in the gutter passed out with a beer bong in my hand.


Fair enough but up until failry recently BHO was still prasing the the Reverand Wright and giving him credit as his spiritual leader and all kinds of wonderful things. He told Bill O that he was in Church twice a month. How could he NOT know who this man really was FOR 20 YEARS? He only ditched the guy because he knew he had to IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED. What does that say about him NOW?


 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 01:49 PM
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I'll say the same thing about this when it came up and was discussed several months ago:

Find one person who is the same in ideals, beliefs and worldview as they were when they were in college, and over 20 years ago to boot.

Hold me accountable for everything I thought, did and said in college and I'd be out of a job, divorced and in the gutter passed out with a beer bong in my hand.


If my bank hadn't exited the subprime/derivatives markets several years ago, that could be me!! I've already got the divorce and there's a beer bong somewhere in the attic. Has anyone seen my beerball tap?

 

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I'll say the same thing about this when it came up and was discussed several months ago:

Find one person who is the same in ideals, beliefs and worldview as they were when they were in college, and over 20 years ago to boot.

Hold me accountable for everything I thought, did and said in college and I'd be out of a job, divorced and in the gutter passed out with a beer bong in my hand.


Fair enough but up until failry recently BHO was still prasing the the Reverand Wright and giving him credit as his spiritual leader and all kinds of wonderful things. He told Bill O that he was in Church twice a month. How could he NOT know who this man really was FOR 20 YEARS? He only ditched the guy because he knew he had to IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED. What does that say about him NOW?




Ah yes, the old no-win scenario. Before, people were saying he tacitly approved the hateful speech, after, he ditched him to get elected. This one is played out. I don't know one person who changed his vote due to the Wright thing. It was a simple way for some to back into supporting the GOP, which they would have done anyway.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 02:09 PM
Good post...
It's beyond me how anyone let alone the American white voter regardless of your love or hate of HUSSEIN OBAMMA.......could actually picture his racist,arrogant America hater wife taking space in the WHITE house,sneering at all of the stupid WHITE voters who will but him in.
Her racism just sticks you right in the face not unlike her b/s husband who hides it quite well.
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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 02:31 PM
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All things considered, after what the white man did to the Native Americans, we've got a lot of nerve complaining about immigration.


Do you know anybody who's done anything to Native Americans? You know, somebody born in the last 120 years or so?

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 02:40 PM
Well, I grew up in an area where Native American's were treated like second class citizens. In fact, people would rather have admitted they had black relatives than that they had any Native American blood. Having lived in the South through the Civil Rights movement I can say that the black people I saw were treated a lot better than the Native Americans. Now, if you want anything specifically going on right now.....

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0311-07.htm

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/indiangaming.html

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2551&name=Abramoff -Reed-Indian-Casino-Scandal

 

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In fact, people would rather have admitted they had black relatives than that they had any Native American blood.
Not sure what to think about that. But I think I know what you meant.

Who agree's with Mrs Barak Hussein Obama who said, "America was a nation founded on 'crime and hatred"


 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 04:42 PM
If you look at Australia's history one can legitimately say the country was founded by convicits.

If you factor in what the British colonizers did with the infected smallpox blankets to eradicate the Native Americans and how the U.S. government illegally took land that belonged to the Native Americans or the entire slavery issue, then one can legitimately say the country was founded on ' crime and hatered.'

Revisionist history doesn't make wrongs any more right.....I'm a firm believer in learning from past mistakes so they aren't repeated. Do I think she was wise to make that statement? No I don't. Some pills are just too bitter for people to swallow, especially during an election year.

 

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This is frightening! I sincerely hope you watched as few samplings as possible

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 10:35 PM
"It is always the same old story written by Blacks when talking about racisim,all they think of is themselves while Those people who founded this land and that includes Meso Americans from Mexico and south america still remain the biggest race of people ever discriminated against to this day...sad indeed.. ..."

I'd ask you to re-consider lumping all Blacks or all Anyones together like this. All blacks just think of themselved when talking about racism? You can only say that if you have interviewed all blacks.

As for the final note on the post that started this thread, "We paid for her scholarship," who is "we"?

Michelle Obama's college-essay rhetoric is typical overheated college essay stuff. However, a look at the colonization of America does not turn up a pure catalogue of saints. You had Puritans laying their intolerance on the Quakers and Anabaptists as well as on the Native Americans; you had slavery, obviously; you had some wicked and wild land disputes. Plenty of land-grabbing from Mexico. Plenty of lawlessness can be found if you read our history. I know my high school textbook glossed over a lot of it, but the primary sources tell one heck of a story. None of this means that America is a bad place; none of it means that we are inherently wicked; none of it cancels out the fact that we have had great people in every phase of our history and that our ideals have propelled us to work to correct the problems of our past. It is not unpatriotic to recognize that we have had flaws and that we still do.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2008 at 11:00 PM
Nope sorry not biting on that when i see a Black person write a paper or give a speech about Racisim,that includes other races that are also being the victim of racisim then i will stand and applaud their efforts. Native Americans are still discriminated against in this the 21st century.

Suicide amongst NA teenagers is almost twice as high as either Black Americans or White,the expected age just 30 years ago was only 46 for Na's 46!!!!! the US Gov't finds uranium on the Pine Ridge reservation and set up a plan to steal more land and each and EVERY treaty made by the US has been broken and is not being held to the very words written.

It is a problem beyond description, and is still pushed under the carpest and ignored in our history books no race on this earth has endured more for a longer period than Native Americans..

We have columbus day WTF? he discovered nothing again the europeans mindset we are better then you ...

Martin Luther King day, a great man with great vision but where is the Native American day?? they have fought in each and every war side by side with those that have oppressed them simply for love of their country,enough is enough it is time to bring this to the attention of the world and make our way to healing this scar.

 

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Good post...
It's beyond me how anyone let alone the American white voter regardless of your love or hate of HUSSEIN OBAMMA.......could actually picture his racist,arrogant America hater wife taking space in the WHITE house,sneering at all of the stupid WHITE voters who will but him in.
Her racism just sticks you right in the face not unlike her b/s husband who hides it quite well.
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For the very firist time I am proud of my country...after 45 years in this country and just because your husband is running for president .....NOW YOU ARE PROUD SORRY ASS

Mark of the racist right there.


No sh!t. Is your last name Duke?

 

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  posted on 9/19/2008 at 11:00 AM
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If you factor in what the British colonizers did with the infected smallpox blankets to eradicate the Native Americans and how the U.S. government illegally took land that belonged to the Native Americans or the entire slavery issue, then one can legitimately say the country was founded on ' crime and hatered.'

Revisionist history doesn't make wrongs any more right.....I'm a firm believer in learning from past mistakes so they aren't repeated. Do I think she was wise to make that statement? No I don't. Some pills are just too bitter for people to swallow, especially during an election year.


So you agree with what she said but you think she was not wise to say it. I think Obama is definitely the right candidate for you.


 

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  posted on 9/19/2008 at 01:47 PM
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All things considered, after what the white man did to the Native Americans, we've got a lot of nerve complaining about immigration.


Do you know anybody who's done anything to Native Americans? You know, somebody born in the last 120 years or so?
Have you ever seen what living conditions are like currently on some reservations?

[Edited on 9/19/2008 by lolasdeb]

 

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