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Author: Subject: Congratulations to the Allman Brothers Band and Warren Haynes for supporting Obama.

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 10:34 AM
I would like to congratulate the Allman Brothers Band for displaying tremendous political courage in supporting Barak Obama. In particular one has to recognize Warren Haynes who will play both with the Dead and the Brothers. Warren is an amazing human being for taking this stand.

The Dixie Chicks and Crosby, Stills Nash and Young have been viciously attacked in the red states for their “liberal” comments, songs and political positions. There have been protests, there have been CD’s, tapes and records smashed and the vitriol against the performers has been incredibly mean spirited. Crosby, Stills Nash and Young, as documented in their tour DVD, had to charter a plane out of Atlanta for their own safety.

I am sure Warren and the Brothers know what the consequences might be for taking this political action. I hope nothing transpires and the ABB is not attacked like the Dixie Chicks or Crosby, Stills Nash and Young. But the possibility is there. The fact that Warren and the Allman Brothers Band is willing to take this risk speaks volumes to the level of character of these individuals.

On a positive note the Allman Brothers music is as familiar as American Pie. I think a lot of fans need to re-familiarize themselves with the fantastic music of the band. Their market might shrink in some areas. But it could easily expand in other states if there is an uproar about them supporting Obama.

 
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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 10:45 AM
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I am sure Warren and the Brothers know what the consequences might be for taking this political action.


I'm sure they are shaking in their boots. Probably hire Betts back to protect them. Ya think?

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 10:51 AM
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I am sure Warren and the Brothers know what the consequences might be for taking this political action.


I'm sure they are shaking in their boots. Probably hire Betts back to protect them. Ya think?


LMFAO!!!

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 10:54 AM
Oh No!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 10:57 AM
Neil Young makes very provocative statements and takes things to awful extremes. The Dixie Chicks in front of a foreign audience early in the Iraq War made provocative statement and then wrote a protest song (but it was about themselves??? which I have a feeling the original statement was as well).

The Brothers and the The Dead aren't doing anything brave playing a fundraiser for a candidate. No more than the the hundreds of other bands that have over the past 10+ years. I also don't think it will be much of a surprise to their fans and the public that these two bands would be supporting the Democratic candidate for President.

If they start doing and saying things like Neil Young it might be different, but they won't and aren't. (I'm not justifying any actions that were taken against Dixie Chicks or CSNY)


[Edited on 9/12/2008 by hotlantatim]

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:11 AM
I can't understand why a musician would come out on one side or the other. The fans pay the freight, so why risk alienating part of your fan base?

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:22 AM
Wow. In a time when the merest accomplishment gets trumpeted with hyperbole that makes it sound like mankind's greatest achievement, you make this sound like an act of rebellion and courage on par with Mandela or Solzhenitsyn.

Lighten up Swifty, this isn't exactly like the Chinese college students standing in front of tanks.

I did get a good laugh at your comments about CSNY having to "charter a plane out of Atlanta for their own safety". Ooooo, a bunch of aging millionaire rockers escape an angry mod on a private jet. Yeah, it sounds like they narrowly escaped peril or death. Give me a break.

On the positive side, you would seem to have a bright future promoting movies. That's one of the best places I can imagine using the ability to trump up the mundane into the magnificent.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:22 AM
Since Jimmy Carter the only poitical statement I ever heard Gregg make was "Vote"
Pretty good advice.

Sometimes he says "Peace"

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:26 AM
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I can't understand why a musician would come out on one side or the other. The fans pay the freight, so why risk alienating part of your fan base?


Sometimes people, even musicians , see a wrong that they feel so passionately about, personal financial interests are worth risking.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:30 AM
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I did get a good laugh at your comments about CSNY having to "charter a plane out of Atlanta for their own safety". Ooooo, a bunch of aging millionaire rockers escape an angry mod on a private jet. Yeah, it sounds like they narrowly escaped peril or death. Give me a break.
LMAO!!! Scary stuff indeed!

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:33 AM
Its........................

HITTIN THE NOTE

NOT

HITTIN THE VOTE








 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:43 AM
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Neil Young makes very provocative statements and takes things to awful extremes. The Dixie Chicks in front of a foreign audience early in the Iraq War made provocative statement and then wrote a protest song (but it was about themselves??? which I have a feeling the original statement was as well).

The Brothers and the The Dead aren't doing anything brave playing a fundraiser for a candidate. No more than the the hundreds of other bands that have over the past 10+ years. I also don't think it will be much of a surprise to their fans and the public that these two bands would be supporting the Democratic candidate for President.

If they start doing and saying things like Neil Young it might be different, but they won't and aren't. (I'm not justifying any actions that were taken against Dixie Chicks or CSNY)

[Edited on 9/12/2008 by hotlantatim]


I agree with you, except that Warren can be quite outspoken and I would not be surprised if he says something that may not be well received from the Right. His music has become more political over the years, particularly in Gov't Mule.


Gov't Mule is not particularly political. I have been to numerous Mule shows in recent years and Warren has rarely said anything political. All of us here on this board like Warren and the Allman Brothers regardless of our political views. I think that this is one area we should stay away from. That is my opinion and I will not get involved in threads in which the bands we love become political tools.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 11:52 AM
Give it up.

What dougrhon said.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:03 PM
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Give it up.

What dougrhon said.


That's the point. One more reason that entertainers should keep their political views private. Warren opened his mouth and opened up a needless debate. Why even go there?

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:07 PM
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I think Warren ramps the political factor up and down depending on where he's playing. In Madison, WI for instance, I vividly recall Warren railing against Bush and company for a few minutes mid-show.


How much conviction does that show? Ramping up the political factor only on safe ground.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:19 PM
Interesting comments! I was simply pointing out sociological behavior in the south that began in the fifties and carried through to burning and trashing Beatles records to the current era. Given this historical behavior every band that challenges the cultural and social mores of this group risks a similar outcry and reaction. I could go back and dig up the posts when Butch Trucks was attacked here for stating his political views.

Believe me when bands decide to play benefits they look at those risks. They had to have made the decision to do it. This is why I congratulated the Band. I hope nothing happens. It was my decision to congratulate them for taking the risk. Is there something wrong with that?


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The Brothers and the The Dead aren't doing anything brave playing a fundraiser for a candidate. No more than the the hundreds of other bands that have over the past 10+ years. I also don't think it will be much of a surprise to their fans and the public that these two bands would be supporting the Democratic candidate for President.


The dispute there seem to be whether the band members are brave or not. You have stated your opinion. You don't think they are. Fine. I stated mine. I think they are.


 

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I think Warren ramps the political factor up and down depending on where he's playing. In Madison, WI for instance, I vividly recall Warren railing against Bush and company for a few minutes mid-show.


See - that I've got a problem with. If I want to hear political rants, I'll come in here or watch the networks. If I'm at a concert (CERTAINLY if I paid), I would probably end up screaming "STFU and PLAY". Don't care who it is. I don't need to pay to hear crap like that.


Then don't go. At the CSNY Atlanta concert it was announced ahead of time that they would be doing all the material from Young's album. Lot's of comments like your's after the concert. Why did they go? It makes no sense.

What you are really saying though is that musicians should not be allowed to sing and play what they want and that they need to subscribe to your form of censorship.

 

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I think Warren ramps the political factor up and down depending on where he's playing. In Madison, WI for instance, I vividly recall Warren railing against Bush and company for a few minutes mid-show.


See - that I've got a problem with. If I want to hear political rants, I'll come in here or watch the networks. If I'm at a concert (CERTAINLY if I paid), I would probably end up screaming "STFU and PLAY". Don't care who it is. I don't need to pay to hear crap like that.


I'd like to assume that if each ABB member was not on board with Obama, then they would not do the benefit. At least in this instance, the concert is billed as "Rock for Barack", and anyone can choose whether to attend or not, knowing its purpose up front. Many have said their vote is not affected by what a musician says, and I tend to agree. Still though, this is not much different than any of us putting up a yard sign in our yard, affixing a bumpersticker to our car, or hosting a coffee klatch for a candidate. I don't care myself who some other motorist supports, but they sure print alot of stickers for there to be zero effect.

Everybody, including musicians, can put their support out there. Maybe it makes a small difference, like a yard sign. The money raised certainly couldn't hurt.

 

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I think Warren ramps the political factor up and down depending on where he's playing. In Madison, WI for instance, I vividly recall Warren railing against Bush and company for a few minutes mid-show.


See - that I've got a problem with. If I want to hear political rants, I'll come in here or watch the networks. If I'm at a concert (CERTAINLY if I paid), I would probably end up screaming "STFU and PLAY". Don't care who it is. I don't need to pay to hear crap like that.




I agree, I pay to hear them play, not what they have to say, especially politics. We hear enough of that on TV.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:42 PM
Like I said before do your drugs play your part and be grate.....ful that their are enough people out there that still want to here these burnouts.
When you try to sell your audience anything but your music your just showing everyone how really out of touch you are with the common taxpaying American.

 

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Interesting comments! I was simply pointing out sociological behavior in the south that began in the fifties and carried through to burning and trashing Beatles records to the current era. Given this historical behavior every band that challenges the cultural and social mores of this group risks a similar outcry and reaction. I could go back and dig up the posts when Butch Trucks was attacked here for stating his political views.




What is wrong with that? My problem with musicians and actors on both sides is that they are never challenged on why they believe what they believe. They make statements yet walk away without being called on it or debated.

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Believe me when bands decide to play benefits they look at those risks. They had to have made the decision to do it. This is why I congratulated the Band. I hope nothing happens. It was my decision to congratulate them for taking the risk. Is there something wrong with that?



Number one, I have no problem with musicians taking a stand politically in their music. And, this event is up front about its political nature, so I have zero problem with it. Anarchists made for some excellent punk rock bands back in the day. When you stop a show and rant for a long period of time in a general concert, that is when it gets old quick.

Of course, the last time the ABB did this they gave us Jimmah Carter. Gee thanks. I should direct that at my self as well because I agreed with the ABB at the time and voted for Jimmah. I was soon cured.

What is brave is trying to be a conservative in Hollywood, or in the music business outside of country music. Look at the vitriol that Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent have recieved on here. There is no comparison. That is yet another example of the duplicitous BS of the Left. If it is for Obama, it is brave. If it is for the conservative side of the aisle, they are scum. Lame yet predictable.

As for this concert, there is nothing brave about it. They already did this 30 years ago. This is pretty benign actually. If they were to be brave then they would announce to the world and put on their concert advertisements that portions of the money paid by the fans coming to every show on this tour would be given to Obama's campaign.

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:46 PM

Why are you congratulating them and why is it political courage? They voice their opinion, people will disagree with them or agree with them, but no one is going to stab them or stick a gun to their head or lock them up. It would be courageous if they lived in say, Venezuela, and held a benefit for whoever the opposition is to that guy that only wears a red shirt.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:48 PM
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Like I said before do your drugs play your part and be grate.....ful that their are enough people out there that still want to here these burnouts.
When you try to sell your audience anything but your music your just showing everyone how really out of touch you are with the common taxpaying American.

Speaking of out-of-touch... well, this post, for example.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:48 PM
Just heard "For What It's Worth" on the radio. Helluva song. Pretty political, I'd say.

 

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  posted on 9/12/2008 at 12:58 PM
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What is brave is trying to be a conservative in Hollywood, or in the music business outside of country music. Look at the vitriol that Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent have recieved on here. There is no comparison. That is yet another example of the duplicitous BS of the Left. If it is for Obama, it is brave. If it is for the conservative side of the aisle, they are scum. Lame yet predictable.

As for this concert, there is nothing brave about it. They already did this 30 years ago. This is pretty benign actually. If they were to be brave then they would announce to the world and put on their concert advertisements that portions of the money paid by the fans coming to every show on this tour would be given to Obama's campaign.


I agree conservatives in Hollywood are very brave. But if we nit-pick they also make a lot of money and so that equals it out if one uses your approach.

Who are you to decide what constitutes bravery and what the band must do to earn this recognition? Jim says they should go to Venezuela . You say they should donate proceeds from their concerts. (On the latter point they sold tickets to concerts before they decided to participate so it would be against the law.)

Again though why are you fellas so interested in telling people how they should behave? It’s gotten me very curious.

 
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