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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:18 PM
I was watching FOX a little while ago, and one of their people was interviewing a man who has written a book critical of Obama, on the floor of the convention.

I know they only make a joke about being fair and balanced, and they are nothing more than mouthpieces for the right, but does this seem ethical? They are doing all they can to drive a wedge between the supporters of Hillary and Obama.

Does anyone think FOX is at the Democratic Convention to give a fair and balanced report of what is going on there, with no agenda of their own?

I don't.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:25 PM
They definitely give those Hillary supporters on alot who say they are going to vote for John McCain. I caught some of Shepherd Smith today and I kind of know what you mean.


 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:26 PM
I also heard that McCain has picked his running mate, and may announce his choice during the convention, rather than on Friday, which has been the speculation.

I guess it is good that the Democrats are holding their convention first. That way, they can respond to all the dirty tricks when the Republicans hold theirs.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:28 PM
FOX News ... Balanced Reporting = Oxymoron

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:47 PM
Boo flippin' hoo. Hannity was broadcasting ffom the convention today as well, and interviewed many democrats who aren't whiners. If somebody believes that thier cause is the right one, what is the problem?? I am sure that Air America will be allowed at the Republican convention, not that anybody will here it, but what the heck.

Hilarious, as the bigger problems at this convention are Hillary's people copping an attitude, her main advisors not staying for Obama's speech, Bill Clinto bitching that the Obama camp gave him a theme to speak about instead of letting him talk about himself, Hillary doing a roll call on the floor until she comes out and stops it and asking for acclimation for Obama, Obama introducing Obiden as "the next president of the United States," and then Obiden introducing Oabama as "Barack America," you got the truly impressive Nance pelosi telling Hillary supporters today to cut with the attitude and avoid "victim politics," and yet you're worried about Fox News broadcasting from the convention.

I'll say it again, at least Fox News brings in Democrats and lets all sides have a say as opposed to MSNBC and Olberman who only brings on guests that agrees with him. And then there is Dan Abrams.....oops, that's right - he just lost his 9pm show to Air America's Rachel Maddow.

Will Olberman and Matthews be at the Republican convention? I doubt they care.

Oh, by the way, here is what Democratic Governor of Pennsylvania Ed Rendell said about NBC's coverage this weekend as the convention started;

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Rendell: Obama coverage was embarrassing

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell was supposed to give “closing remarks” during this afternoon’s Shorenstein Center-sponsored panel discussion with all three Sunday show moderators — NBC’s Tom Brokaw, ABC’s George Stephanopoulous and CBS’s Bob Schieffer — but instead, he opened up a can of worms about bias in 2008 election coverage

"Ladies and gentleman, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing," said Rendell, in the ballroom at Denver's Brown Palace Hotel. "It was embarrassing."

Rendell, an ardent Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter during the primaries, now backs Obama in the general election. Brokaw and Rendell began debating campaign coverage, including the on-air comments by Lee Cowan, and when MSNBC came up, Rendell went after the cable network.

“MSNBC was the official network of the Obama campaign," Rendell said, who called their coverage "absolutely embarrassing."

Chris Matthews, Rendell said, "loses his impartiality when he talks about the Clintons.”

At that point, PBS's Judy Woodruff, who was moderating the moderators event, said: "Why don’t we let Governor Rendell sit down."

That was met with applause from the crowd of big-time media figures, which included Arianna Huffington, Gwen Ifill, Al Hunt, and Chuck Todd.

Woodruff allowed Brokaw to respond, and in defending the network, he said that Matthews and Keith Olbermann are "not the only voices" on MSNBC.



And the worry is Fox news??

Top shelf.

DH

[Edited on 8/25/2008 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:54 PM
Leave it to Derek to try to convince us that FOX News is "fair," and the other networks aren't.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:58 PM
Surprising commentary from a registered Democrat there, DFC.

Fox News is just doing what they've always done. Play to their audience. They get monster ratings and ad revenue.

The whole strategy so far from the Right has been to create chaos and present the Democrats as bitterly divided with tension and infighting. The strategy continues.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:06 PM
Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:07 PM
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Surprising commentary from a registered Democrat there, DFC.


Hard to understand this change of heart by an Obama supporter.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:13 PM
I certainly hope soo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:25 PM
I'm a bit embarassed to admit that I get probably 90 per cent of my politico info from this website (imagine...an ABB website...) mainly bc I really don't care all that much about the process...yet. Another thing, when you friggin' people argue and get personal, it disrupts my fragile train of thought and I forget the topic at hand, so lay off that crapola.

my question is this, concerning the convention...I heard somewhere (Bhawk, Fuji ? somebody...) that Obama has 1700 delegates and Clinton has 1600, with a few super delegates not yet decided. Could this cause a problem for the convention or Obama?

 

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I was watching FOX a little while ago, and one of their people was interviewing a man who has written a book critical of Obama, on the floor of the convention.

I know they only make a joke about being fair and balanced, and they are nothing more than mouthpieces for the right, but does this seem ethical? They are doing all they can to drive a wedge between the supporters of Hillary and Obama.

Does anyone think FOX is at the Democratic Convention to give a fair and balanced report of what is going on there, with no agenda of their own?

I don't.


I don't understand. They interview a man and that is unethical? Is it ethically necessary to only fawn over Obama this week. Is it illegal to not give him a free infomercial? With 5 other stations fawning, why shouldn't one present a different perspective?

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:28 PM
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Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?




Hannity is there to broadcast for his audience. Is that suddenly a crime? If he gets down on the floor and starts throwing things then you will have a point. It seems that expressing a different point of view is suddenly wrong in these United States.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:31 PM
I find it interesting they interviewed this man from the convention. Don't they have a studio?

Doug, suppose one of the networks goes to the Republican Convention, and goes around trying to find people who will say something bad about McCain, or use their broadcasts to try to sow dissension between delegates.

Say, they interview a man from the floor of the convention who has written a book denigrating McCain.

No problem?

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:33 PM
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Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?




Hannity is there to broadcast for his audience. Is that suddenly a crime? If he gets down on the floor and starts throwing things then you will have a point. It seems that expressing a different point of view is suddenly wrong in these United States.


It's not that sudden. I was against the war and got called a traitor.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:35 PM
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Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?




Hannity is there to broadcast for his audience. Is that suddenly a crime? If he gets down on the floor and starts throwing things then you will have a point. It seems that expressing a different point of view is suddenly wrong in these United States.


It's not that sudden. I was against the war and got called a traitor.


Thank you.

 

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Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?




Hannity is there to broadcast for his audience. Is that suddenly a crime? If he gets down on the floor and starts throwing things then you will have a point. It seems that expressing a different point of view is suddenly wrong in these United States.


I didn't say it was a crime. I said it was unethical.

But ethics is something Hannity knows nothing about, so he might start throwing something. We'll have to wait and see.

As Bhawk did, I find your last line hilarious.

 

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Derek would have us believe that Hannity is there just to give a balanced, unbiased report of the Democratic Convention.

Is that what you believe, Derek, or do you think he'd like to see the convention turn into chaos?




Hannity is there to broadcast for his audience. Is that suddenly a crime? If he gets down on the floor and starts throwing things then you will have a point. It seems that expressing a different point of view is suddenly wrong in these United States.


It's not that sudden. I was against the war and got called a traitor.


Thank you.


Bingo!

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:45 PM
wow, you heavyweights ignore us political ignoramuses. (well, not all of us... )

fine. I'll bow out gracefully.


 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:45 PM
Actually, what would be funny, and come on everybody, admit that you'd like to see this piece of entertainment, is that when Barack Hussein Obama, II holds his arms up high in a victory stance, Hillary comes out of the wings, kicks him off the podium, and declares that she won. During a long winded rant she is carried off the stage by security yelling that "the numbers don't lie", "I got more votes", "IT'S MY-Y-Y-Y T-U-R-N-N-N-N TO BE PRESIDENT".

You gotta admit, that would be funny as hell, won't happen, but it'd still be funny.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:46 PM
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wow, you heavyweights ignore us political ignoramuses. (well, not all of us... )

fine. I'll bow out gracefully.




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my question is this, concerning the convention...I heard somewhere (Bhawk, Fuji ? somebody...) that Obama has 1700 delegates and Clinton has 1600, with a few super delegates not yet decided. Could this cause a problem for the convention or Obama?



Long and short of it, piacere, yes, under party rules, Hillary could call for a roll call vote and leave it to the delegates in question.

 

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Yes, that would be funny.

Sorry, Mark. You have to call me a c*nt to get my attention.

Someone with more political expertize than me can give you a better answer.

I don't really know much about it, either, and get most of my news here, too.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:50 PM
Hold on a minute; aren't the Democrats the ones who would like to have the "Fairness Doctrine" revived and put into place, so that balanced coverage and all points of view can be ensured?

Just asking...

 

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wow, you heavyweights ignore us political ignoramuses. (well, not all of us... )

fine. I'll bow out gracefully.




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my question is this, concerning the convention...I heard somewhere (Bhawk, Fuji ? somebody...) that Obama has 1700 delegates and Clinton has 1600, with a few super delegates not yet decided. Could this cause a problem for the convention or Obama?



Long and short of it, piacere, yes, under party rules, Hillary could call for a roll call vote and leave it to the delegates in question.


I KNEW it'd be you.

thanks.

some of these threads are very informative. I like 'em.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2008 at 07:55 PM
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Yes, that would be funny.

Sorry, Mark. You have to call me a c*nt to get my attention.

Someone with more political expertize than me can give you a better answer.

I don't really know much about it, either, and get most of my news here, too.




no sweat brother.

I'm following along and learning quite a bit.

 
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