Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread ><<  1    2  >>Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Is it our town or is it happening in yours too?

True Peach





Posts: 10187
(10387 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 02:49 PM
Man, it seems everyday its bad news. Yesterday a close friend of my daughter who use to come over to all the sleep overs when they were young lost her life in a murder suicide. Its just so sad. Its sad for their baby who was away from home when it happened, thankfully.

That is just one of a handful of bad news from our town. Greta from Fox news has had her team in our county for a number of stories. The UNC student found murdered by the river, the man found in his ex girlfriends trunk, many missing teens.

Last week the police received via internet threats that the High School that Susie and I graduated was going to be blown up today (first day of school here). Blown up, and a lot of students were going to be shot. This guy wanted to break the record left by the killer at VT.
What is wrong with folks today. It was in the paper today, that this threat was a hoax from a kid in New Jersey. Had no connections to our old school.

Is all this crazy stuff happening in your town too.......???

Here are some of the stories below.


Murder Suicide
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/bridges_24112___article.html/west_wife.ht ml


High School threat
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/police_23957___article.html/ashbrook_scho ol.html
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/threat_24118___article.html/police_school .html


Mom and Son exchange blows with BB Bat
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/mother_23908___article.html/son_bat.html# slComments


Mom leaves kids at scene of wreck.
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/pearce_24093___article.html/police_ranlo. html

Manhunt
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/beaty_24025___article.html/lowe_police.ht ml

Moblie met lab
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/substance_23890___article.html/meth_contr olled.html

Fatal Hit and Run by DWI offender DWI again..

http://www.gastongazette.com/news/police_23669___article.html/belmont_plan. html

 

____________________

 
Replies:

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 14557
(14557 all sites)
Registered: 3/28/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 02:57 PM
Condolenses to your daughter's friend's family, especially the surviving baby. This world is getting crazier all the time.

 

____________________
Pete

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 24984
(25100 all sites)
Registered: 8/20/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 02:59 PM
The big news in Massachusetts was the 5yr old boy that has been missing for over a week.

In short the father had visitation with the 5 yr old for the weekend. When the mother came to pick him up he was not there. But police have said they have a possible witness and on Friday found a mop that appeared to have been stained with blood and cleaned with bleach. They also seized several knives and the cap of a household cleanser that appeared to be blood-stained.



By John R. Ellement, Globe staff

Police in Lynn are spending another day scouring the downtown neighborhood for any sign of 5-year-old Giovanni Gonzalez who was last seen Saturday afternoon with his father, an employee of a city meatpacking company.

Ernesto L. Gonzalez Jr. on Sunday told police he did not know where his son was and has since refused to talk with police about Giovanni, who had been allowed to spend the weekend with his father by the boy’s now heartbroken mother, Daisy Colon of East Boston.

“We are still operating on the presumption that this young boy is alive,’’ said Essex District Attorney Jonathan Blodgett, whose office along with Lynn and Massachusetts State police, have been leading the search since Sunday afternoon. “That’s what we are hoping.’’

Blodgett said police have already searched trash Dumpsters, apartments, surveillance videos, stores, restaurants, a nearby cemetery and Flax Pond near Gonzalez’ home address of Brightwood terrace without success.

They are repeating the process again today and using as many as 40 officers in the effort. He said four Lawrence police officers showed up Wednesday and volunteered to help. The FBI has spoken with Gonzalez’ relatives in Puerto Rico and they have told investigators they have had little contact with Gonzalez over the years, none of which was recent.

Blodgett said Gonzalez works for Old Neighborhood, a mainstay in the city, as a meatpacker. “The company has been very cooperative,’’ he said of investigators’ requests for information about his work duties at the plant.

Blodgett said Gonzalez continues to maintain the same stony silence he adopted when police located him on Sunday after Colon called for help to regain her son.

Gonzalez appears to lack both the financial and social resources needed if someone was trying to hide their child. He is something of an loner who does not own a car, does not currently have a girlfriend and is not known to have a wide circle of friends, the prosecutor said.

“We do not believe he had a significant other or friend that would be helpful in this regard,’’ Blodgett said.

Blodgett said the search will continue. “It is our duty to keep searching for him,’’ he said. “There is a lot of manpower still being spent on this case. We are hoping, and keeping ourselves optimistic that he is alive somewhere.’’

Gonzalez has pleaded not guilty to one count of child endangerment and is currently being held on $500,000 cash bail at the Essex County jail.

 

____________________
Co-Owner of Charlie Tabers Football

 

Peach Pro



Karma:
Posts: 296
(296 all sites)
Registered: 3/29/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:14 PM
It's definitely happening in my town, and its been that way for years. I try real hard to defend my hometown (durham) but after a while I just gotta give up. You wake up to brand new stories of murder/shootings or arson everyday
 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 18593
(18594 all sites)
Registered: 11/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:15 PM
Sadly I think this kind of behaviour is happening all over the place, John. The city I live in has a population of app 1/2 million (including burbs) and I know I've seen stories like this locally. Don't know what size your town is but I get news from my families home town through a cousin still living there. This is a fairly small town (maybe 13000) in Kansas and they are having their own set of sad news stories created in their community - previously many of these people probably left their doors unlocked. Every day it's something else - some other horrifying and tragic story - happening somewhere else. I'm struck by how many of these incidents seem to be the result of anger.

 

____________________
"Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will buy you a bottle of wine, and we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down..."

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 15832
(15866 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:18 PM
I'm trying to think, and I don't remember any crazy stuff like that going on in Santa Cruz County. This is a much different community than anywhere I've ever lived. People here seem to appreciate that they live in one of the coolest, most beautiful places on the planet, and try to keep it that way.

Some of you might be surprised that it is very common to see teenagers hitchhiking here. Lots of people pick them up and give them rides. Highway 9 runs out of Santa Cruz up into the mountains, with several little mountain towns not far at all from SC. The first one, Felton, where I live is just 5 or 6 miles up. Lots of kids with their thumb out all up and down Highway 9.

A few years ago, I was driving home from a friend's house after midnight, and passed a girl about high school age dressed up very nice with her thumb stuck out. My first thought was that I should give her a ride home, because who knows who else might pick her up. So I stopped and she got in, and almost immediately a Sheriff's Deputy pulled me over. He went to her side of the car, and said, "I thought you said you were going home earlier tonight."
He thanked me for picking her up, then told her to come get in his patrol car, as he was taking her home. Very polite to me, and looking out for her.

I can't begin to explain all the crazy sh*t going on these days, and I heard about enough to last a lifetime in New Orleans. I'm glad I live in a pretty peaceful place.

 

____________________


 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5944
(6041 all sites)
Registered: 1/24/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:23 PM
The big deal here, 5-6 years ago, was oxycotin. About 30 deaths reported in the local paper, teenage to 30. Several others suspected, families kept details down. Several lawsuits, doctors losing licenses, one big national lawsuit against the company that made it (Pharma?).

A symptom of a bigger, deeper problem IMHO. Part of the final demise of our society we're now seeing. The general rudeness, arrogance, lack of respect. Nobody goes to church anymore, drugs, drunkenness, porn, moms with multiple illegitimate kids, daddies not raising their children, all acceptable in our PC world.

Just my opinions, observations. I sound like some old dude sometimes. But it seems connected to me. Part of our culture now.

 
E-Mail User

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5768
(6034 all sites)
Registered: 2/5/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:27 PM
Keep your powder dry.

 

____________________
Lovin my Duane Allman music....everyday jamin' for Duane.

 
E-Mail User

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 16491
(16491 all sites)
Registered: 6/4/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:54 PM
Thre have been 4-5 suicides lately in eastern Monmouth county NJ all either in Belmar or Spring Lake/Spring Lake Heights.
Teenagers stepping in front of or getting sideswiped by transit trains.

Sadly the word around is that at least one that we know if is a youth who was associated with a pedophile who recently made local news for the length and breadth of his connections with local youth.

 

____________________


R.I.P. Hugh Duty


 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 873
(874 all sites)
Registered: 3/29/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 03:57 PM
Hey Bup I agree completely. The dumbing down of America has been a complete success. Instead of inspiring or directing the young(hell and us oldsters too for that matter) its so much easier to just keep lowering the bar until everyone can clear it. Remember nothing that's political can ever be correct. Historically great civilizations last approximately 200 - 250 years. Time's up !

 

____________________
There ain't no devil that's just God when he's drunk.

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7595
(7595 all sites)
Registered: 10/12/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 04:07 PM
Allen spoke of his life in Santa Cruz and I'd have to agree with him that it's a special place and that crime is low. There ARE lots of drugs in Santa Cruz, though, especially methamphetamine. And all it takes is a quick jog (35 miles) over HWY 17, now you're in San Jose, and things change dramatically. Actually, considering that it's the second largest city in California, it's a fairly safe town. But sh*t goes down, anyway. Gang murders are not uncommon in east San Jose and parts of downtown. And just two weeks ago, someone hit two women in their 80's who were crossing the street legally in
a crosswalk. GET THIS: The assh*le actually dragged one of them on the hood of his car for about 40 yards, then reached out with his left arm, threw her off, and kept going.
Fortunately someone got his license plate. It only took a few days before an alert librarian noticed someone reading in the library who matched his description. She immediately walked out to the parking lot and found a car whose plate matched the one in the paper. She immediately called the cops and they nabbed him........a 65 year old homeless man who was living in the car he struck the women with. I hope the SOB never gets out.

 

____________________
Don't let the sounds of your own wheels
Drive you crazy
Lighten up while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just find a place to take your stand
And TAKE IT EASY

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 15832
(15866 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 04:15 PM
Rob, there's probably more going on here than I know about. There are a LOT of kids strung out on heroin, and meth, as you said, and a lot of them are homeless. I'm sure there must be suicides, too.

I can't imagine what it must be like growing up today, with the world and the country in the situation we're in.

 

____________________


 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1505
(1505 all sites)
Registered: 7/24/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 05:50 PM
murder suicide sucks, why do they always do it in that order?

 

____________________
I once was here
But now I'm not
I went away
To smoke some pot
I'm writing this,to prove a point
Life ain't sh-t,without a joint.

 

Peach Extraordinaire



Karma:
Posts: 4760
(4761 all sites)
Registered: 10/15/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 05:50 PM
It's all over. My daughter went to a friends college graduation party Saturday night. He celebrated so much he got alcohol poisoning. Died last night. How f*cked up is that. I never met the kid and I'm devasted. My daughter is a wreck.

http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008808250371

[Edited on 8/25/2008 by hankpipes]

 

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3475
(3476 all sites)
Registered: 3/10/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 06:26 PM
I was reading this thread earlier and thinking how sad. Then on my drive home I heard how the boyfriend of a second grade teacher, showed up at her house, held her hostage, then shot a killed her. This was all a few miles from me.

 

____________________
We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace. - Michael Franti

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7590
(7589 all sites)
Registered: 7/14/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 09:54 PM
I blame a lot on TV, movies, videos and video games. They are a constant source of the depiction of senseless violence and I believe kids grow up at some level thinking violence ok becasue the images are all around them. Man there was just a tv show about a serial killer who killed other serial killers and rapists and such and it was ok, because he was like this vigilante serial killer. Sheesh. While certainly not every kid who watches tv becomes impassive to violence, I think many many more are as compared to when I was a young person.

[Edited on 8/26/2008 by Angelemerald]

 

____________________
http://www.facebook.com/Angelemerald
http://angelemeraldsrockmusicblog.blogspot.com/


 

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3011
(3036 all sites)
Registered: 12/16/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/25/2008 at 11:52 PM
Very sad news. Unfortunately, bad news seems to be everywhere lately. Atlanta certainly has its fair share.

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2292
(2310 all sites)
Registered: 5/20/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 02:04 AM
quote:
I blame a lot on TV, movies, videos and video games. They are a constant source of the depiction of senseless violence and I believe kids grow up at some level thinking violence ok becasue the images are all around them. Man there was just a tv show about a serial killer who killed other serial killers and rapists and such and it was ok, because he was like this vigilante serial killer. Sheesh. While certainly not every kid who watches tv becomes impassive to violence, I think many many more are as compared to when I was a young person.

[Edited on 8/26/2008 by Angelemerald]

I totally agree Angela. It doesn't help when Kurt Cobain, Tupac, Scarface t-shirts, and many others are the idols of this generation either. The violence in Cincinnati is at an all time high. The rate of suicide is skyrocketing. The youth in the USA need some positive leadership that parents alone can't give. There really is no purpose in some of the video games except to train killers.

[Edited on 8/26/2008 by Mulehead1]

 

____________________


 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 13580
(13834 all sites)
Registered: 2/10/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 07:35 AM
nice sig., Mulehead1

I think it's all part of the de-sensitized generation and too many people not being able to take responsibility for their own actions, as if they blame others or circumstances for their behavior. Whatever the case and whatever the reasons, the world is becoming more a sociologist's dream and more a parent's cause for concern.

Granted, there are cases where the psycological makeup of an individual has gone so haywire that neither meds or counselling or rehab or incarceration will alleviate any criminal bahavior but more often than not, it's triggered by either peer pressure or a single event or thought which through time, develops into a pattern.

We need to pay attention.

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 527
(529 all sites)
Registered: 4/11/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 08:27 AM
I live in an area of Southern IN that has a population of around 173,000 and a lot of the "big city" ills are beginning to come home to roost. I realize that it's never been an exclusively big city problem, but it's all becoming way more apparent and openly flaunted.
While we have been number 2 only to Pike County, IN in a head to head competition to become the meth making capitol of the Midwest in recent years, that seems to be giving way to riskier pursuits and a general callousness that I'm starting to find pretty disturbing.
Huffing, heroin and crack cocaine are making a big comeback from a peak in the 80s. Home invasions and drive by shootings are also becoming a rule rather than the exception.
There were 5 armed home invasions within a 2 block radius of my home within a 48 hour period about a month ago. Three arrests were made and the oldest of them was 17.
Our suicide rate is on track to set yet another record this year (30 this year as of last week and several more as yet unconfirmed) with the majority being white males 30 and under.
A person can almost smell the hopelessness and I don't see any sign of it letting up.
Couple all of this up with the "gangsta" mentality among white, suburban wannabes, the infiltration of real gangbangers, an overwhelming number of people of all ages walking around with a chip on their shoulder or some kind of ax to grind, and a general lack of compassion or concern for another human being and it's all becoming what I see as a pretty volatile stew that's cooking in these parts.
Had a 20 year old kid killed by a hit and run driver on Sunday while walking to work.
The guy got out and looked to see what he hit and left the kid in a yard to die alone while he went to a grocery store to buy bleach to clean the blood off of his car.

 

____________________

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7757
(7770 all sites)
Registered: 8/30/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 08:35 AM
Yeah..I live in the Indy area and it's kinda wacky around here too. There was a cop shot in the head over the summer and some other crazy killings so far.
Guns getting in the hands of bad people, it's a bad combination. The people are hard to control , but I wish they could do more with the gun issue.

 

____________________


 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 527
(529 all sites)
Registered: 4/11/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 10:12 AM
And it just keeps getting better. . . .

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/aug/26/mother-arrested-stabbing-10-ye ar-old-daughter/

Really starting to make me wonder. . . .

 

____________________

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5822
(5827 all sites)
Registered: 7/4/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 10:23 AM
Sadly these things are showing up more and more big cities are turning to cess pools and it is spilling out into the burbs and farther...we are just over populated and i guess the saying crimes does not pay just does not fit anymore. Our system of justice is a joke and the anti gun people are slowly erroding our second ammendmant rights making us all more helpless.... buy a legal gun take classes to learn how to use it keep it at home responsibly and get a concealed carry permit,learn to do the best you can to protect your family and property. Above all when your creep O meter goes off pay attention to it it is probably right,stay away from places that could get you into trouble pray for all our children in the next generation.

 

____________________
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." -Henry Ford

 

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7590
(7589 all sites)
Registered: 7/14/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 11:50 AM
Mulehead1: It doesn't help when Kurt Cobain, Tupac, Scarface t-shirts, and many others are the idols of this generation either. The violence in Cincinnati is at an all time high. The rate of suicide is skyrocketing. The youth in the USA need some positive leadership that parents alone can't give. There really is no purpose in some of the video games except to train killers.

I am so grateful my generation missed these video games. Also, I agree the music industry hasn't helped either.

Bluesbasscat: A person can almost smell the hopelessness and I don't see any sign of it letting up.

So sad but true. At least here in NYC there are a few more options for kids when they are hanging out, though we are not immune. What a horrible shocking thing about that boy and the driver. I feel for smaller cities as they are being slammed by the increase in violence, suicide and drug use and they have far less resources to be able to even begin to address the causes.

piacere: I think it's all part of the de-sensitized generation and too many people not being able to take responsibility for their own actions, as if they blame others or circumstances for their behavior. Whatever the case and whatever the reasons, the world is becoming more a sociologist's dream and more a parent's cause for concern. Granted, there are cases where the psycological makeup of an individual has gone so haywire that neither meds or counselling or rehab or incarceration will alleviate any criminal bahavior but more often than not, it's triggered by either peer pressure or a single event or thought which through time, develops into a pattern.


Well, I think the desensitization is what has been derived from the over whelming depiction of violence on television and other media sources. There has always been violence. But how communities ignore the violence and how communities fail to address preventive measures is what is most disturbing. Couple that with failed systems to provide mental health and drug abuse services in this country and you have an increase of the amount of violence in society. We are all to blame every time we ignore what our politicians are doing budget wise. We are to blame every time we think JUST SAY NO is the answer. It is easy to come up with a slogan but harder still to address some of the root causes.

As for sociologists, many universities closed their sociology programs during the 1980's and 1990's. That says to me that we as a society are not developing tools to help understand why people are doing what they are doing and why so many people are engaged in destructive behavior. Understanding why is critical to developing preventive strategies. Mental illness alone cannot account for the increases we have seen over the last 20-30 years. Most of it is becasue people who are mentally ill are not necessarily violent. Of course there is a sub set who are but that alone does not explain the increase in violence and suicide.

I also think part of the problem is related to the fabric of our communities. The fabric has come undone. The seams are splitting. Economic woes alone are only part of the problem. Faith based communities often stick to their own kind, or to be a part of their services you have to believe. Sociologically, nothing has risen to replace the role of faith and family connections. Young people are left to their own devices without good role models or systems to help them through the tough stuff of growing up in a town where there isn't much opportunity. Hopelessness and despair create people who have nothing to loose. And that is something that must be addressed at a community level. Parents alone are not always enough.

Social workers, sociologists and criminologists do have some of the answers but they are not being listened to when it comes time for politicians to spend the money. There is no lobby for these lost souls. I fear that most of us are comfortable with just putting them in jail or executing them. Never once thinking about how we can prevent the problems. It is so much harder than JUST SAY NO. And we Americans are notoriously lazy when it comes to anything but making money.

Sure there are others of us who know that isn't gonna get us anywhere but we get faced with the impenetrability of the political systems that are in control of the policies and the money.

I am so disheartened by the political system of this country that I can't bring myself to vote anymore. I feel I am just participating in a corrupt system and that participation supports the corruption. I look at government and know that most of it is corrupt and the more local the politics, the more chance for corruption. I've done political and community organizing for about 10 years and worked for local government for 23 years and I have come to the conclusion the only way there can be real change is through dismantling the political system as we know it. The first thing I would start with is dismantling the electoral college. Until that happens I won't be voting again,

All you need to do is look at O'Bama's running mate to know that he (O'Bama) ain't no great hope, regardless of color. He is just one more cog in the wheel that is out of control and resistant to change. He has turned out to be a big disappointment for those of us who aren't swayed by party politics.


[Edited on 8/26/2008 by Angelemerald]

 

____________________
http://www.facebook.com/Angelemerald
http://angelemeraldsrockmusicblog.blogspot.com/


 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 10187
(10387 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/26/2008 at 03:50 PM
It is just sad. Our county's population as of 2000 was 190,000 and Gastonia is around 67,000. Its just something everyday. We use to be known as Little Chicago back in the 20's-40's because of the high crime rates. Even early as the 70's our murder rate per capital was the highest in the nation. Even had 60 Minutes come here and do a report.

The courts has got to put the crazy folks away. To many of the crimes committed are repeat felons which should have never gotten out in the first place.

I can remember we use to leave the keys in our cars and the doors unlocked. I could get away with it in my neighborhood now. But you just never know. Susie locks me out sometimes forgetting I am outside.....


Sorry to hear about your daughters friend Hankpipes..........

 

____________________

 
<<  1    2  >>  


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software


Privacy | Terms of Service
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com