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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 07:44 PM
Having been in denial for the past few years I can no longer defend the Allman Brothers live shows. I was at Great Woods/Tweeter Center/Comcast Center last weekend and came out of there feeling indifferent about the show. I had a great time because they're my favorite band... WRONG. I'm facing reality from now on. They weren't very good. Crummy set list - ZERO positive vibe with the audience... ZERO, people - They might as well have been playing to mannequins. They didn't give a dam about the crowd. How about a BORING drum solo from 10:20 to 10:45 in which Butch Trucks for some reason (ego) came to the front of the stage with a drum and bored the hell out of the place. It was the MOST boring drum solo I've ever witnessed in my life. Why did they not show Jaimoe on the screen until the concert was almost over? Is that Butch's ego getting in the way? They they sleep walked back onto the stage and played Whipping Post and left. Melissa was as tired as Gregg looked. The bus pulled into the parking lot around 8:10 and the Brothers must've all been sleeping because that's they way they played. What knocked my senses back into place was seeing Skynryd last night. I got to witness their show for the first time and suddenly I remembered Southern Rock is supposed to be fun. The Skynryd boys were up there having a blast and engaging the audience. Good bye Gregg and crew. It's been a hell of string of concerts from 1981 until last week.
 
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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 07:48 PM
Don't tell me that! I'm going to see them in Va Beach in a month or so.


 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 07:51 PM
I wish you the best but as far as a visual experience and great songs from the past... don't expect too much. There's no denying the talent on that stage when you consider Warren and Derek but geesh... guys, at least look like you're having a good time even if you're not.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 07:56 PM
Peach pit status, eh? I certainly take opinions from the Peach Pits with a grain of salt.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:00 PM
Sorry to hear that Peach Master. I would imagine Peach Master status means you post here often which means you're a huge fan (like I) who will put up whatever you're being dealt. Therefore I take your opinion with a grain of salt.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:01 PM
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Having been in denial for the past few years I can no longer defend the Allman Brothers live shows. I was at Great Woods/Tweeter Center/Comcast Center last weekend and came out of there feeling indifferent about the show. I had a great time because they're my favorite band... WRONG. I'm facing reality from now on. They weren't very good. Crummy set list - ZERO positive vibe with the audience... ZERO, people - They might as well have been playing to mannequins. They didn't give a dam about the crowd. How about a BORING drum solo from 10:20 to 10:45 in which Butch Trucks for some reason (ego) came to the front of the stage with a drum and bored the hell out of the place. It was the MOST boring drum solo I've ever witnessed in my life. Why did they not show Jaimoe on the screen until the concert was almost over? Is that Butch's ego getting in the way? They they sleep walked back onto the stage and played Whipping Post and left. Melissa was as tired as Gregg looked. The bus pulled into the parking lot around 8:10 and the Brothers must've all been sleeping because that's they way they played. What knocked my senses back into place was seeing Skynryd last night. I got to witness their show for the first time and suddenly I remembered Southern Rock is supposed to be fun. The Skynryd boys were up there having a blast and engaging the audience. Good bye Gregg and crew. It's been a hell of string of concerts from 1981 until last week.



When will you be going to your second show?

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:04 PM
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I wish you the best but as far as a visual experience and great songs from the past... don't expect too much. There's no denying the talent on that stage when you consider Warren and Derek but geesh... guys, at least look like you're having a good time even if you're not.


He wants the musicians to dance around for his amusement.

I think they have a good time playing or they wouldn't be doing it.


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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:06 PM
I agree that ABB have aged but very gracefully so. The Brothers have never jupmed around on stage, not even with Duane and Berry. (get that kid out from behind the organ, stick a salami down some velvet pants and have him jusmp around like a english sissy boy, then you may have something...die hards will know where that quote is from) Just keep in mind man, Greggs coming off his treatments, and he STILL gets up and does what he does best, make music. Because he loves the music AND his fans. I totally respect your opinion to the highest though, that is just my opinion

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:07 PM
First show was at the Cape Cod Coliseum in '81. Second show was at Great Woods in '89. Been to 90% of the Great Woods show since including many three times per summer. Been to the Beacon numerous times as well as the Orpheum in Boston.
I'm sure I've seen them more than most. Now we can talk about a couple of Dickey Bett's shows at Avalon, Cohasset - Gregg at Berkley and The Channel back in the early 80's - Derek at the House of Blues and Government Mule at a few different venues.
There's a reason they're only doing one show a summer now in Mass with thousands of empty seats. Because people are walking away disappointed.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:09 PM
Actually you're Peach Bud status now.

But it's all good, man. Not every show can be good anyway. I've seen good shows and I've seen average shows.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:09 PM
man, i don't know where you were sitting, but I was at the same show and had a great time. the crowd was awesome. everyone around me was dancing the entire show. The band looked to me like they were having a good time. The Allmans have never been the type to high-five the crowd like Skynyrd. But they were definately having fun up there. And Derek's solo on Whipping Post was epic! And "no great songs from the past"? I dunno man...Statesboro, Don't Keep Me Wondering, Liz Reed, Whipping Post, Melissa...sounds like a few past hits to me. Everyone's got their own opinion. I've seen the Allmans every year since 92. And this show was just as good as most of the others.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:10 PM
Hey, your a peach bud now! (sorry bro im just teasin, couldn't resist the fun )

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:11 PM
I appreciate the poster who respects my opinion. I remember from years ago how people take this personally so someone who looks past the criticism is pretty cool. To the guy who says they're still doing it therefore they are enjoying it... I wouldn't buy that for a minute.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:14 PM
To the guy who was at the Great Woods show, what was your opinion of that drum solo? That took a huge amount of time out of their show. It was about 1/4 of their show and it was awful and I'm not someone who generally hates drum solo's either.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:18 PM
I would think that the only reason they would do it is for the love of it. I mean, I'm sure Butch, Jai, and Gregg would have pretty comfprtable lives if they retired. Just a thought, and agian, just an opinion

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:19 PM
Steve, beauty is in the eye (ear) of the beholder. What one person perceives as disappointment, someone else might perceive as joy. Sorry you were disappointed in the show. On a bad night, The ABB is still the best band around.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:19 PM
personally, i'm not a big fan of drum solo's. But if you must, i think try to keep it under 5 minutes. The 20 minute solo was a bit much. (i think a longer drum solo would be better off when its "An Evening with the allmans" instead of when there is an opening act) and the placement in the set list did kill some vibe at the end of the show. but its an Allman Brothers show...i expected it.
 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:19 PM
Oh and as far as the drum solos...I play a little drums, and as big a fan as I am of the ABB even i have to admit that the solos are a little....hmm...drawn out?

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:37 PM
I've seen some pretty good Brothers' drum solo's but at Great Woods they weren't into expending too much energy on that night. Band looked it's age but at least Marc got plenty of face time on the big screen with his little runs. Poor Jaimoe got less screen time than the roadies.
Thanks for allowing me to vent! Maybe someone with the band will stop kissing Butch's butt and tell him to stay behind the drums and compress that solo!

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:41 PM
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I agree that ABB have aged but very gracefully so. The Brothers have never jupmed around on stage, not even with Duane and Berry. (get that kid out from behind the organ, stick a salami down some velvet pants and have him jusmp around like a english sissy boy, then you may have something...die hards will know where that quote is from) Just keep in mind man, Greggs coming off his treatments, and he STILL gets up and does what he does best, make music. Because he loves the music AND his fans. I totally respect your opinion to the highest though, that is just my opinion


I don't know about that. In the love valley footage duane is all over the place at the end of Mountain Jam. And I've seen pictures of duane jumping around. Dickey has great stage presence as well. Watch the great woods 91 video. he's entertaining the crowd.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:48 PM
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If you're saying Skynard puts on a better show today than the Allmans do, then you're clearly not there just for the music -- nothing wrong with that, but you'll find that most true ABB fans could give crap less about stage presense and seeing Derek smile and such.


Exactly..... Its about the music. The band actually is interacting with the audience.. .thru their music and the emotions they put in. If you want nostalgia, go see the Police or Van Halen

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 08:55 PM
I think that a lot of folks who go see the ABB have also gotten into jazz or have been fans of bands like the Dead or Pink Floyd - bands that really don't care too much about the visual appeal of the band, more the music.

Skynyrd, like George Thoroughgood, sure do spend more time on getting the crowd pumped, but I find their music staggeringly average. To each his own, though.

But dude, are you really saying that you have been a fan of the band for 28 years, saw one bad show, and are quitting on them? Doesn't that seem hasty?

 

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 09:06 PM
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I don't know about that. In the love valley footage duane is all over the place at the end of Mountain Jam. And I've seen pictures of duane jumping around.


yep...

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But dude, are you really saying that you have been a fan of the band for 28 years, saw one bad show, and are quitting on them? Doesn't that seem hasty?


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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 09:22 PM
I didn't think the JB show was one of the more inspired I have seen. I'm sure there is some rust. I know the last three Beacon runs have been remarkable though. I feel that the loss of the half hour because of the co-bill with rat dog has hurt the intensity a lot. Still, it would be wrong to imply they are disinterested or going through the motions. For one thing Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks do NOT go through the motions EVER. Some shows are better than others but all are worth the price of admission. The ABB experience is not like the Skynyrd experience.

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  posted on 8/24/2008 at 09:23 PM
I agree that the Brothers are still the best band in the land even on a less than stellar night (not many of those), but the original poster makes a point that I agree with, too, and the drum solo at this particular show, which I attended, seemed too long. I would not say this was a bad show at all. As many here recall, the 2006 Raleigh show did not make a lot of folks happy. I wouldn't stop seeing the Brothers on the basis of one show, though and will be at Chastain and Orange Beach.
 
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