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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 08:04 PM
They may very well be my favorite band....aside from this one of course. The Ox is a beast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2sWjouB1YA

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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 09:21 PM
Well, I was listening to that Styx show BDOB posted, but that's pretty much history now.........

A Beast, oh yeah...................

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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 09:44 PM
They haven't been the same since the Ox died. Saw them a couple of times since and it's just not the same.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 10:07 PM
Never could get into The Who, really. For me, they were to Led Zeppelin, what Hootie and the Blowfish were to Nirvana. All the frat kids were listening to them when all of the more forward thinking folks were listening to Zepp.

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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 10:15 PM
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Never could get into The Who, really. For me, they were to Led Zeppelin, what Collective Soul were to Nirvana. No matter how much they tried to look or sound like them, they could never pull it off.



Wow!!! I don't get the connection. Although I love both the Who and Led Zeppelin I really see no comparison. Two totally different sounds IMO. I don't see where the Who were ever trying to be like Led Zep.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2008 at 10:41 PM
They weren't, someone's just smoked too much bad Mexican weed back in the day.

Both bands were awesome, LZ really excelled in the studio, and produced great albums, and did a fair job reproducing that on stage.
The Who could never really get that "live" sound to come across in the studio, but were absolute sound and fury on stage.

If given the choice, most thinking people would easily go with "Live at Leeds" over "Song Remains The Same" but that doesn't lessen the awesomeness of the Zep....

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 08:06 AM
Me I'll take the Who any day over Zeppelin.

Is anybody watching the VH1 Rock Honors Tonight

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 08:59 AM
Great musicians, great songs, great band.

One of the first vinyl bootlegs I ever bought was The Who doing Tommy live at the Amsterdam Opera House in 1969 Absolute sound and fury is right!

The difference between the Who and Zeppelin is the difference between Keith Moon and John Bonham. Both great drummers, but with very different styles. Discuss

 
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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 09:19 AM
My only Who show was during their 25th anniversary tour in 1989. I believe it was at Lakewood in ATL...

I had quit partaking of hemp for a couple of years for work. I was doing a lot of work at a local DOE facility and had security clearance for a while and would be subject to the occasional whiz quiz. I went to the show and was really getting into it. A group of folks in front of me were passing a hog leg around and turned to me and asked me if I wanted some. After a millisecond of deliberation, I said, "COITAINLY!" It enhanced the concert experience that evening and made me wonder why I ever stopped. When The Who played the chorus to "Join Together," the whole crowd was singing along and it was one of my stand out concert moments.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 11:37 AM
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Never could get into The Who, really. For me, they were to Led Zeppelin, what Hootie and the Blowfish were to Nirvana. All the frat kids were listening to them when all of the more forward thinking folks were listening to Zepp.

[Edited on 7/17/2008 by debojenkins]


Really. I would actually say it was quite the opposite. Pete Townshend has always had a reputation as the thinking man's rock star. While taste is individual, your analogy is absurd and insidious. Why not just say you prefer Led Zep? My guess is you are not familiar with the Who's deep catologue of brilliant songs. That said, they are not the Who anymore and though they are one of favorite bands of all time, I will not see them again.

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 02:00 PM
My first Who show was 1989 at Radio City when they did Tommy in its whole for the first set and then came out and did sort of a best of for the second set. BDOB, Join Together was also stand out to me as that is what they opened the second set with that night.

I just saw that when Townsend agreed to that tour in 1989, he told Roger that there is no way he can stand the decibel level anymore that the Ox put out, so they had to add horns, people banging gongs, etc. to get the same sound that the Ox alone made. Apparently, Moon and Entwistle essentially made the same amount of noise as a 100 piece orchestra. If I could go back in time, I think these guys would be the ones I would go see. I always forget how sick they are until I start listening again. Not only are they genious players, Townsend may be one of the greatest writers. I just love how everyone seems to play lead all the time.

I guess it came back to me this week because they have been all over VH1 Classic. Tonight is the Rock Honors so they have tons of great stuff on all this week about them. I actually think that Amazing Journey documentary is fantastic.

Incidentally, their manager for about the last 30 years claims that the show from 9/11 might be the best he's ever seen, with or without Moon.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 02:28 PM
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Me I'll take the Who any day over Zeppelin.

Is anybody watching the VH1 Rock Honors Tonight



Yes, I'll be watching. I don't know anything about The Flaming Lips and have never seen or heard the Foo Fighters do any Who material. I have seen Pearl Jam perform killer versions of 'Love Reign On Me' and 'Baba O'Reiley' live. It should be a good show.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 02:43 PM
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My only Who show was during their 25th anniversary tour in 1989. I believe it was at Lakewood in ATL...

I had quit partaking of hemp for a couple of years for work. I was doing a lot of work at a local DOE facility and had security clearance for a while and would be subject to the occasional whiz quiz. I went to the show and was really getting into it. A group of folks in front of me were passing a hog leg around and turned to me and asked me if I wanted some. After a millisecond of deliberation, I said, "COITAINLY!" It enhanced the concert experience that evening and made me wonder why I ever stopped. When The Who played the chorus to "Join Together," the whole crowd was singing along and it was one of my stand out concert moments.


Hey Dave, I was there. I won tix from Z-93 by being the first caller to answer the question, what was the last album w/ Keith Moon? The answer? Well, watch the video above for it.

Also saw them at the Omni in 79 or so; Keith was still around. Why do we need to choose between the Who and Zep? I loved them both. Tommy was one of my first real albums, after the Monkees!

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 02:51 PM
Brock, had to have been before 1979 when you saw them because Moon died in Sept 78. I don't believe they were on tour at the time. Who are You had just been released.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 03:19 PM
I think Who are You is Moon's last album, sitting on the chair that says, "not to be taken away".
 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 03:20 PM
One of my most favorite concert moments ever came when the wife and I saw The Who in '89 at the Oakland Coliseum. We were sitting in the nosebleed section but didn't have any problem hearing the band [would anybody?]. They were playing the instrumental "Sparks" during the 'Tommy' section of the show, and when The Ox got to play his bass solo, he shook the stadium to its foundations all by himself. 65,000 people gasped "whoa" in unison all because of John Entwistle. Very impressive.
 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 03:20 PM
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Me too & yes! I mean, I love LZ too, but The Who had such a magical combination.

I remember when the Concert For New York was on live and The Who came on, I was just blown away at how much they just blew away everyone else who took the stage that day.

I agree that they aren't the same without The Ox, but that goes without saying. The show I saw right after he died though was incredible enough to me to be surprisingly good the time.

 

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I saw the Who in 1972 in the Atlanta Municipal Auditorium from my regular, fifth row, left of center seats. During Baba O'Reilly, the electronic music ended a two bars after the band finished the song. An embarrassed Townsend apologized and said, "It happens that way sometimes!"

My biggest memory of the show is from the encore. Picture a giant spotlight, the kind that is powered by large generator on a trailer and is often rented for grand openings, shooting a powerful beam thousands of feet into the sky. Now imagine FOUR of these rigs, situated directly in back of the band behind a thick curtain, the spotlights pointed directly at the audience. The volume of the band easily covered the sound of the gasoline powered generators. Now just at the peak of the encore, the curtain lifts and those spots shine outward into the crowd.

It was like an atomic explosion onstage! I was instantly blinded, shocked temporarily, stunned speechless!

It was one of the most dramatic effects I've ever seen, and there's been nothing like it since ...

 

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  posted on 7/17/2008 at 08:27 PM
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Yes, I'll be watching. I don't know anything about The Flaming Lips and have never seen or heard the Foo Fighters do any Who material. I have seen Pearl Jam perform killer versions of 'Love Reign On Me' and 'Baba O'Reiley' live. It should be a good show.


It's rockin' so far, really enjoyin it.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 06:13 AM
The VH1 rock honors was pretty cool! It doesn't seem like the Who anymore now that there is just two left.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 06:38 AM
Brock, had to have been before 1979 when you saw them because Moon died in Sept 78. I don't believe they were on tour at the time. Who are You had just been released.

The Who did tour in 79. Kenny Jones from The Faces had joined the band. On 12/3/79 they played in Cincinnati at the old Riverfront Coliseum. 11 people died that night due to a stampede. The Who arrived late, and didn't get the soundcheck in until 10 minutes after the doors were to open. Many thought the show had started .Security opened 2 doors out of 14 which caused the stampede at a general admission show. It was a very sad night here in Cincy.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 07:34 AM
I liked Pete's line last night, "I would like to thank VH1 and Viacom for putting this whole thing on and giving us a little plastic piece of **** ."

I thought the Foo Fighters, Flaming Lips, and Pearl Jam were the best last night. They should have had the Mule up there doing Eminence Front or something like that. I especially liked the Tommy medley the Flaming Lips did.

As a side note, is it possible for VH1 or MTV to keep one **** ing image on the screen for more than a second? Its really annoying. The director must be on acid, show crowd, show Pete, show Roger, show crowd, show Pino, show crowd, show Roger, show Pete, show Zach, show crowd.....and thats' just in a span of 2 seconds. No wonder everyone has ADD these days.

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 07:34 AM
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Really didn't have the same punch did it? Still enjoyed it enough to TiVo

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 07:58 AM
Couple thoughts on some comments:

When looking for a step in (seriously how can you replace the Ox?) for Entwistle, Pete just had one request of Pino Palladino, "play as loud as you possibly can"

Despite being a great songwriter/lyricist/live performer, Pete, was only the 3rd best musician in the band.

As for drumming styles between Bonham and Moon, my take on it is this. Moon was more influenced by the "surf" drumming style. He thought of himself as a lead drummer, that needed to be at the front of the stage, just flailing away, all over the kit. If you listen to The Who's live work with him on it, its amazing to hear 3 guys completely doing their own thing at any given moment, but coming together at just the right time in the songs to give them structure. It was just uncanny, and a second sense of what was needed at any particular moment.

As for Bonham, the guy was a monster, very powerful in the studio and live. Once quipped to Plant, you just look good up there, and I'll keep it all together back here. Pretty much kept Page focused live on the task at hand, or he'd still be playing that Dazed and Confused solo somewhere circa 1977...

My first Who experience was in 1982 at a packed Tangerine Bowl in Orlando. After Joan Jett and the B-52's had been booed off stage (the 52's did 4 songs, 20 minutes, and were pelted with a steady barrage of shoes and various garbage that seemed to increase when they were playing) The Who came on with My Generation, and I was literally picked up and moved forward, backward and to the side during the song. Daltry even implored the crowd several times to back up during the show. A review said it was "inhuman, scary, but The Who delivered a set, that almost made the $15 dollar ticket prices, worth the sacrifice of one's own safety" Needless to say, I thought it was awesome....

 

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  posted on 7/18/2008 at 08:02 AM
Sure glad I got to see the Who before Moonie & Entwhistle departed theis earth. Pearl Jam did an amazing job of covering the 2 tunes I saw - Eddie really got the feel of Daltrey's vocals and can't say that about too many bands who try to cover the Who. Hope that was an Epi the guitar player demolished...reminded me of the old pic of Townsend throwing a guitar in the air- captioned "this guitar has 5 seconds to live..."

[Edited on 7/18/2008 by Jack]

 

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