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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 05:54 PM
i listened to this today for the first time in awhile. it rarely makes it in my cd player but its a lot better than i remember. i still think there are just too many brent songs. i still hate "i will take you home". what a cheesy pile of crap that song is and its hard to believe its written by the same guy who wrote "we can run" and "blow away". they needed to drop "i will take you home" and add another jerry track and another bob track. anyways still better than i remember and the title track was always a favorite of mine. it almost brings tears to my eyes hearing jerry sing the title track and knowing he's gone now
 
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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 07:32 PM
I have it and don't play it much either. It seems like it could be a soundtrack for the original Miami Vice episodes. I love Miami Vice by the way and have been renting them from Netflix. Just not my fav. Dead Cd by any means.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 08:05 PM
Warren used to kill on "Just a Little Light" w/ Phil & Friends...

 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 08:21 PM
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Warren used to kill on "Just a Little Light" w/ Phil & Friends...


10/27/00 House of Blues Las Vegas

THE best version, Warren and Jimmy's playing on it is incredible. The solo before the last verse just builds and builds and then Warren fires out like only he can!

 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 08:29 PM
BUILT TO LAST was not a critical favorite. Like many Dead LPs it was considered uninspired and stiff. To make matters worse, the Dead did not work together to make it. Apparently each of the parts were overdubbed onto the master tape, and passed on. Also the Dead did not have enough material for a record, and therefore Brent was given the task of contributing half the album.

I like the album, it's a pretty good followup to their blockbuster LP IN THE DARK, which actually yielded top 40 material. I have the limited edition that came with a deck of cards. Nice collector's item.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 08:34 PM
Brent added fire to maney dead shows!even baked,he would get things back on track,when jerry would start to space out and forget where he was.Check out the nye show of 1987."I wii take you home"mabey not his best song,but what a way to wrap up a life with the dead,wasn't his little girl on stage when he last sang it? take care all,matt
 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 09:56 PM
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10/27/00 House of Blues Las Vegas

THE best version, Warren and Jimmy's playing on it is incredible. The solo before the last verse just builds and builds and then Warren fires out like only he can!


I agree, I can't get enough of Warren and Jimmy with Phil and Friends.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2008 at 10:51 PM
I believe that album was done around the time Jerry Garcia almost died after lapsing into a diabetic coma.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 03:04 AM
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I believe that album was done around the time Jerry Garcia almost died after lapsing into a diabetic coma.


that was '86 and this came out in '89. they did the album in the dark basically right after he had the coma

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 03:41 AM
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10/27/00 House of Blues Las Vegas

THE best version, Warren and Jimmy's playing on it is incredible. The solo before the last verse just builds and builds and then Warren fires out like only he can!


That was my first show, with the PLQ lineup and I was blown away. I remember that Just a Little Light, which blew away (no pun intended) any GD version I heard. Went the next night to the Wiltern in LA, great show also, China Cat>The Eleven to open. Very fond memories of that band.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 06:47 AM
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10/27/00 House of Blues Las Vegas

THE best version, Warren and Jimmy's playing on it is incredible. The solo before the last verse just builds and builds and then Warren fires out like only he can!


That was my first show, with the PLQ lineup and I was blown away. I remember that Just a Little Light, which blew away (no pun intended) any GD version I heard. Went the next night to the Wiltern in LA, great show also, China Cat>The Eleven to open. Very fond memories of that band.



Thanks for turning me on to that show...listening to it right now.
http://www.archive.org/details/2000-10-27.paf.sbd.philleshnet.2358.sbeok.fl acf

...and jcb was right- Warren does kill on Just A Little Light!


[Edited on 7/10/2008 by Smattermonnat]

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 08:23 AM
Just like most Dead albums, these songs really came to life on stage.

I remember not liking the produciton and the keyboard heavy sound. Foolish Heart, I couldn' stand when it was a radio single. They ended up turning that one into a really long 2nd set opener jam which sounded really cool on certain tapes.

Blow Away and Standing on the Moon are the epic songs from this collection. Blow away on Dozin at the Nick is incredible and The Standing on the Moon from the Down Hill from Here DVD is stellar. I'll put that version up against any Garcia post space ballad ( Stella Blue, China Doll etc.. It's just as good ). I love the line about the Sanfrancisco in July and how he really got into the (" Be with You !! Coda ) Picasso Moon is even a decent show opener looking back on it.

If they took some time off and did it right production wise, they had one more great album in them . Lazy River Road, Days Between, Liberty, So Many Roads, Corrina, Broken Arrow, all could of made a great recording.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 08:45 AM
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Warren used to kill on "Just a Little Light" w/ Phil & Friends...


10/27/00 House of Blues Las Vegas

THE best version, Warren and Jimmy's playing on it is incredible. The solo before the last verse just builds and builds and then Warren fires out like only he can!



Phil Lesh and Friends Live at House of Blues October 27, 2000





Jam > Dear Mr. Fantasy > Deal
Friend of the Devil
Casey Jones
Soulshine
Foolish Heart
Built to Last
Not Fade Away > Eyes of the World
Strawberry Fields > Doin' that Rag
Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad
Scarlet Begonias
Just a Little Light
Sugaree

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 12:31 PM
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i listened to this today for the first time in awhile. it rarely makes it in my cd player but its a lot better than i remember. i still think there are just too many brent songs. i still hate "i will take you home". what a cheesy pile of crap that song is and its hard to believe its written by the same guy who wrote "we can run" and "blow away". they needed to drop "i will take you home" and add another jerry track and another bob track. anyways still better than i remember and the title track was always a favorite of mine. it almost brings tears to my eyes hearing jerry sing the title track and knowing he's gone now


I've always been a fan of "I Will Take You Home". I clearly remember the first time I saw the song performed live and Brett's little girl sat next to him on his piano bench. It was a moving moment. Now that I have a little girl of my own it has become "our song".

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 01:02 PM
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Just like most Dead albums, these songs really came to life on stage.

I remember not liking the produciton and the keyboard heavy sound. Foolish Heart, I couldn' stand when it was a radio single. They ended up turning that one into a really long 2nd set opener jam which sounded really cool on certain tapes.

Blow Away and Standing on the Moon are the epic songs from this collection. Blow away on Dozin at the Nick is incredible and The Standing on the Moon from the Down Hill from Here DVD is stellar. I'll put that version up against any Garcia post space ballad ( Stella Blue, China Doll


etc.. It's just as good ). I love the line about the Sanfrancisco in July and how he really got into the (" Be with You !! Coda ) Picasso Moon is even a decent show opener looking back on it.

If they took some time off and did it right production wise, they had one more great album in them . Lazy River Road, Days Between, Liberty, So Many Roads, Corrina, Broken Arrow, all could of made a great recording.


i agree about the 1 more great album and that most songs come to life on stage but there are a few songs that were never as good live as they were on the studio version. touch of grey and the title track to built to last are the 2 that pop into mind right away as never being as good live as they were in studio form. sure live they had great jams in the song but the overall sound of the song never worked live as well as it did on the album

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 03:38 PM
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i listened to this today for the first time in awhile. it rarely makes it in my cd player but its a lot better than i remember. i still think there are just too many brent songs. i still hate "i will take you home". what a cheesy pile of crap that song is and its hard to believe its written by the same guy who wrote "we can run" and "blow away". they needed to drop "i will take you home" and add another jerry track and another bob track. anyways still better than i remember and the title track was always a favorite of mine. it almost brings tears to my eyes hearing jerry sing the title track and knowing he's gone now


Funny, I always thought "I Will Take You Home" was a nice song, because it seemed so sincere. And now that I have my own child, I'm really a fan of the song.

I always felt "We Can Run" was one of the worst songs ever. While I like the message of the song, I just feel like the song is trying too hard and it actually had made me cringe. (I can't say that often). Other than that, I don't mind that there are more Brent songs than Jerry or Bob songs. I remember reading an interview at the time where Jerry said "Well Brent just wrote more songs this time around!"

Agreed. Warren on "Just a Little Light" is amazing.

 

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i listened to this today for the first time in awhile. it rarely makes it in my cd player but its a lot better than i remember. i still think there are just too many brent songs. i still hate "i will take you home". what a cheesy pile of crap that song is and its hard to believe its written by the same guy who wrote "we can run" and "blow away". they needed to drop "i will take you home" and add another jerry track and another bob track. anyways still better than i remember and the title track was always a favorite of mine. it almost brings tears to my eyes hearing jerry sing the title track and knowing he's gone now


Funny, I always thought "I Will Take You Home" was a nice song, because it seemed so sincere. And now that I have my own child, I'm really a fan of the song.

I always felt "We Can Run" was one of the worst songs ever. While I like the message of the song, I just feel like the song is trying too hard and it actually had made me cringe. (I can't say that often). Other than that, I don't mind that there are more Brent songs than Jerry or Bob songs. I remember reading an interview at the time where Jerry said "Well Brent just wrote more songs this time around!"

Agreed. Warren on "Just a Little Light" is amazing.


i will take you home just sounds like a schlocky ballad, i was waiting for the singer from journey to chime in. granted its better than "tons of steel" but not by much. i love "we can run" but i always thought jerry should have sang it or at least helped with the lyrics or something

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 04:42 PM
granted its better than "tons of steel" but not by much. i love "we can run" but i always thought jerry should have sang it or at least helped with the lyrics or something


I was never a big fan of "We Can Run" but "View From the Vault III" features a pretty tasty version w/ Jerry pitching in nicely on the BG vocals.

I'm probably in the minority but I like "Tons of Steel"

I get the sentiment behind "I Will Take You Home" but it was always a momentum killer for me.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 04:52 PM
well half the problem is brents not a good enough singer to be wide open like that singing a ballad. on the numbers with lots of drums and bass they help hide it
 

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 05:38 PM
Just a Little Light with Warren singing was the best. I guess I'll never get to hear that live. :-(

I liked Built to Last with him too.

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  posted on 7/10/2008 at 08:35 PM
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Just a Little Light with Warren singing was the best.

I liked Built to Last with him too.

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The Built to Last from 10/27/00 is the best version of that song. The whole show is great!

 

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  posted on 7/11/2008 at 12:12 PM
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i listened to this today for the first time in awhile. it rarely makes it in my cd player but its a lot better than i remember. i still think there are just too many brent songs. i still hate "i will take you home". what a cheesy pile of crap that song is and its hard to believe its written by the same guy who wrote "we can run" and "blow away". they needed to drop "i will take you home" and add another jerry track and another bob track. anyways still better than i remember and the title track was always a favorite of mine. it almost brings tears to my eyes hearing jerry sing the title track and knowing he's gone now


I actually liked "I Will Take You Home". When my daughter was born I printed out the lyrics and put them in a frame. 9 years later they're still on the wall above her bed, and I hope they always will be. As someone else mentioned, that song is "our song".

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  posted on 7/11/2008 at 03:19 PM
I don't like any of Brent's stuff except We Can Run. I do love him on the keyboards and harmonies.

 

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