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  posted on 7/11/2008 at 08:18 PM
I am not sure what the Gov't Mule $5 dollar ticket deal is so I will not comment on it. Typically what happens is that the band has a booking agency that sets up a gig. This agency could be large are small, so what they charge the bands to book shows is more than likely a percentage of some sort. Then the venue and the booking agency set a price that they will pay the band, so maybe the band like the ABB depending on the size of the venue, lets say for all practical purposes a 5,000 seat with 2,000 lawn seats a price of $100,000 is set. The band gets the money regardless of ticket sales, however they could set a bonus pay, in other words if they sell out maybe a little more money is thrown on top. So to round out the higher priced tickets vs. lawns seats lets set a price of $50 per person, you are looking at a gross of $395,000 if it is a sell out. The rest of the money typically then goes to first and for most to the promoter, venue, and production which is payment for the stage set up, equipment movers, in some cases seat set up, stage manger, production manager, production assistant managers, light guys if the band does not have there own, sound board if they don't have their own, runners, etc. there is probably more but I can't think of them at the moment, the venue then pays venue management, security management, concession management, concession workers, back office contract people, security, real cops, ticket takers, will call tickets handlers who also have management along with caterers. The venue usually provides a certain amount of $ for riders and catering anything over will be taken out of the $100,000.

The venue makes a big chunk to pay for the overhead of the venue via concessions.

Merch is usually a separate deal, a lot of times merch can pay for hotels and that really depends on a lot of things , and traveling expenses if they sell a lot can also be paid again that depends on the band if that is how they work it. But the venue usually takes 20 to 30% off the top plus state an local taxes of all merch, sometimes the seller is included in that and sometimes the band works out a payment with the seller themselves.

So the band basically gets rider money, the initial payment worked out beforehand and sometime bonus and on rare occasion a cut of liquor sales.

Although, you can also say that if ticket sales flop, the band gets paid regardless and everybody else takes a dump.

Hopefully, this helps.

Lid - LOL, I have not heard that term in a gazillion years.


[Edited on 7/12/2008 by PattyG]

 

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  posted on 7/11/2008 at 08:32 PM
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I don't think "lid" was a word that was actually used by people. Kind of like George Carlin's "Mary Jane" routine...."nobody said it....." I've honestly never heard the word used by anyone in a serious conversation about weed.

I started smoking in 1971. By the time I started buying it, a few years later, Mexican weed was $15, then $20 for an ounce. People have always had scales, and always bought and sold using the scales, not their fingers. I bought a half-pound for $90 around 1974, and sold ounces for $15. I bought a lot of pounds for $150-160 over the next couple years, selling ounces for $15. When they sprayed paraquat on the Mexican pot fields, nobody wanted Mexican, and Colombian pot started coming around more. I think some of it was Mexican, anyway.

By the mid 70s, I was buying a pound of Colombian every week, for $325-$375, and selling ounces for $30. Some of the absolute best gold and red bud, I had pounds of occasionally. $35 was the going price, then $40, but I kept mine at $30 for a long time.

Then sinsemillia came on the market, and nobody wanted anything with seeds, and that included Colombian. The price shot up, with ounces starting around $100. After awhile ipeople mostly started selling "quarters," quarter ounces for $35, then $40.

Nickel and dime bags never really had a weight designation, that I know of. It has always just been a little bag that someone was willing to sell for $5 or $10, and usually on a street corner. You give them the money and get whatever they give you.




[Edited on 7/10/2008 by SantaCruzBluz]


Wow - this is EXACTLY the way I remember the weights and pricing. However, I am thinking that here in the midwest we got the Lid thing from listening to Cheech and Chong - hard to remember.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2008 at 12:27 PM
Do they still make Graphics bongs? Those were the best!
 

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  posted on 8/29/2008 at 06:31 AM
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Do they still make Graphics bongs? Those were the best!

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  posted on 8/29/2008 at 11:28 AM
Late 60's and early 70's in Fla. Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 8/29/2008 at 04:50 PM
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Is three fingers a Lid???


Dunno, why don't ya mail it to me and after further inspection I'll give ya an answer..

 

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