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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 12:46 PM
I hope I'm posting this in the right subforum.

I was fortunate enough to pick this CD up recently. It was a cut-out but other than that was in excellent shape. I know this album isn't popular with the ABB purists and it was for that reason that I had put it off so long and had even given a passing thought to not acquiring it at all. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't.

Say what you want but I like this album. I've listened to it three or four times over the past weekend. It's no Fillmore East but I think that this album has received some very harsh and very undeserved criticism. I may be in the minority here I realise. It's got one of the few songs where Dickey and Gregg trade off singing chores (Hell and High Water), a fine instrumental (From the Madness of the West), and a lively rock/pop number too (Angeline). Sure there is a little synth work here but everyone was experimenting with them back then not that a synth is a bad thing. If I had one complaint it would be that it's too short!

The CD is getting hard to find too as it has been OOP for awhile. If you have an opportunity to pick it up I recommend it. Just wondering if anyone else felt this way about this album or am I the odd man out?

 
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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 12:50 PM
I traded mine in. I'm not kidding. I probably was too harsh on it. I'd love to hear the current lineup re-record a few of the tunes from those Arista albums as they weren't all poorly written.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 01:32 PM
I've got it. I rarely listen to it though. I do enjoy Angeline, though, just because of the lyric,

"Never seen a woman who could look so good,
Be so doggone mean!"

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 01:39 PM
I like it too. But at the time it was all we had from the brothers

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:00 PM
The one cut from that album that I played continuously was "Mystery Woman". Loved that song, infectious melody. Although the album itself was a letdown, (Because I anticipated it so much after Enlightened Rogues) I too didn't think it was "That bad"...However, to me it was the beginning of the end. The "end" was made abundantly clear with the release of "Brothers of the Road". Without a doubt, their worst effort ever, hands down.

My copy of Brothers of the Road, is probably still laying by the side of the freeway near Del Mar, Ca. right next to Dickey's "Let's get together"....

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:06 PM
I bought mine on amazon. It has both album together on one album "madness of the west"

http://www.amazon.com/Madness-West-Allman-Brothers-Band/dp/B0000088CZ/ref=s r_1_114?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1212433461&sr=1-114

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:07 PM
I think brothers of the road has some great songs. Besides the title track, greggs numbers are all pretty cool, and I like the judgment and all of dickey's slide work. I still need to pick up reach for the sky. and, I like let's get together as well. As guess I am a dickhead of the highest order

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:12 PM
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I think brothers of the road has some great songs. Besides the title track, greggs numbers are all pretty cool, and I like the judgment and all of dickey's slide work. I still need to pick up reach for the sky. and, I like let's get together as well. As guess I am a dickhead of the highest order


Hey there...

To each is own

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:24 PM
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quote: I think brothers of the road has some great songs. Besides the title track, greggs numbers are all pretty cool, and I like the judgment and all of dickey's slide work. I still need to pick up reach for the sky. and, I like let's get together as well. As guess I am a dickhead of the highest order



Hey there...

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:32 PM
When I first got into the ABB, I was into EVERYTHING. Even Reach For the Sky & Brothers of The Road. - It's true, there are some good qualities on both of those albums. In fact there are good if not great songs on both albums. The biggest problem with everything on those 2 albums is the production. Period. There are some serious weak moments as well, but if some of those songs would've been done on later (or even earlier) albums, people wouldn't think twice about them.

I used to love "From The Madness of the West" and "Mystery Woman". Now the production kills it too much for me. "Thing You Used to Do" (from BOTR) I still feel is an excellent song, with a lot of energy and a great vocal from Gregg. A song like "So Long" would be killer by the current lineup of the band, but on the album it is doused in cheesy synthesizers and kinda rambles on a little too long.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 02:37 PM
I think Reach for the Sky and Brothers of the Road are the Allmans' nadir, but I actually think Reach for the Sky is much worse, if only because when it's bad, it's really, really bad. For me there is barely anything redeeming about it. I think "Hell & Highwater" is the most embarrassing song they have ever released (Capt & Tennille probably would have turned it down) and "From the Madness of the West" is the worst instrumental Dickey has ever written. "Mystery Woman" and "Famous Last Words" are a decent little (and all-too easily forgettable) songs, but the rest makes me want to barf. It doesn't even resemble same band that made Brothers & Sisters, or Enlightened Rogues, for that matter.

Brothers of the Road is barely any better, it's just more bland with fewer valleys, but "Never Knew How Much," even though it is incredibly cheesy, is better than anything else on the two albums. "Straight From the Heart" is pretty darned awful, and "Things You Used To Do" sounds like "Funky Town" to me. I think their reputations are well deserved.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 03:59 PM
I remember reading a review of "Reach For the Sky" in "Rolling Stone" at the time. The author cited the short drum break during MOTW as the highlight of the album.

"Rogues" should NEVER be compared to the Arista albums.


 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 04:06 PM
NEVER NEW HOW MUCH........................i really thought is a great written song.
 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 04:10 PM
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Hey there...

To each is own


lol


I'm not really a big fan of Reach for the Sky, but like GuitarPlaynTaylor - I'm a Dickhead of the highest order. I don't have to like every thing Dickey's ever done to be a hug fan.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 04:13 PM
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I'm not really a big fan of Reach for the Sky, but like GuitarPlaynTaylor - I'm a Dickhead of the highest order. I don't have to like every thing Dickey's ever done to be a hug fan.
Freudian slip there, Kitty?

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 04:17 PM
I have always thought From the Madness of the West was a great instrumental. Incredibly even the synthisizer parts work on this one. Can't imagine them replicating that feel live. Great track.

Conversly I have always thought Dickey's worst instrumental was Pegesus: Da, da.....da, da...da,dada, da....start/stop start/stop; no flow at all.

 

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I'm not really a big fan of Reach for the Sky, but like GuitarPlaynTaylor - I'm a Dickhead of the highest order. I don't have to like every thing Dickey's ever done to be a hug fan.
Freudian slip there, Kitty?



LOL Dave! Ain't that the truth! I'd hug him any day and everyday- as well as be his huge fan!

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 04:21 PM
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NEVER NEW HOW MUCH........................i really thought is a great written song.


Love that song!!

 

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I'm not really a big fan of Reach for the Sky, but like GuitarPlaynTaylor - I'm a Dickhead of the highest order. I don't have to like every thing Dickey's ever done to be a hug fan.
Freudian slip there, Kitty?



LOL Dave! Ain't that the truth! I'd hug him any day and everyday- as well as be his huge fan!



I'm a hug fan of Vanessas, where does the line form?

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I'm not really a big fan of Reach for the Sky, but like GuitarPlaynTaylor - I'm a Dickhead of the highest order. I don't have to like every thing Dickey's ever done to be a hug fan.
Freudian slip there, Kitty?



LOL Dave! Ain't that the truth! I'd hug him any day and everyday- as well as be his huge fan!


I'm a hug fan of Vanessas, where does the line form?

[Edited on 6/2/2008 by BIGV]


I apparently started something I don't know how to stop. But then, who wants to stop hugging their favorite people anyway?

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 05:22 PM
Not everyone from the 70s was making cheezy music in 1981 & 1982....The ABB were sort of ahead of their time. The song Brothers of the Road isn't all that bad, but the playing and the production are so "light" on both. The valleys are indeed low.

It certainly made the opening notes of Good Clean Fun with Woody's driving bass sound and the drum kicks sound that much powerful 8 years late when I first hear it on my car radio.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 05:55 PM
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Conversly I have always thought Dickey's worst instrumental was Pegesus: Da, da.....da, da...da,dada, da....start/stop start/stop; no flow at all


Bite your tongue!!! One of my favorites!!!

 

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  posted on 6/2/2008 at 06:45 PM
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  posted on 6/3/2008 at 02:40 AM
Several months ago I came across an Allman Brothers Band compilation that Arista put together.

The compilation is titled "FROM THE MADNESS OF THE WEST"

Basically, it was every song, or almost every song, from Reach for the Sky and Brothers of the Road in one package.

Well, I found it really cheap on Amazon.com as an import from Germany or somewhere.

So I got it with the intention of listening to it...throwing the really bad ones out... and salvaging ONE decent CD from it.

Here is what I came up with. 10 songs is all I could salvage from both albums.

Here is how I sequenced the CD I created...

1) I Got a Right to be Wrong
2) Mystery Woman
3) Angeline
4) Keep on Keepin' On
5) So Long
6) The Heat is On
7) Leavin'
8) From the Madness of the West
9) Things You Used to Do
10) Maybe we can go back to Yesterday

I can listen to my disc and enjoy it. Its good to have SOMETHING from that period that I can get into.

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  posted on 6/3/2008 at 02:46 AM
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1st of all, Pegasus is not from Reach for the Sky or the other Arista record.

Its from the Tom Dowd produced, smokin hot, Capricorn album (with no synthisizer), "Enlightened Rogues"

2nd...are you KIDDING????

Pegasus is really REALLY good! One of Dickey's best instrumentals imo.

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