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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 08:52 AM
About 7 years ago I inherited not a million bucks from my old man,but this annoying
arthritic condition known as the GOUT (ouch)Now I am not really blaming my pop
or ancestry solely even though it does run in the family,uncles, cousins, grandpa. And Lord
knows my love for barley, hops shots and good eats are a contributing factor, I just wanted to
know if any of you suffer from this nasty ailment and if so how do you deal with the severe
pain and discomfort? Any advice or feedback would be welcomed.

 
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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 09:16 AM
Yea, Got the same thing from my dad. I went about three years with frequent flare ups in one or the other big toe. I finally got my doctor to put me on allopurinal, once daily. Haven't had a red toe since.

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 10:04 AM
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I finally got my doctor to put me on allopurinal, once daily. Haven't had a red toe since.

Same story here. Once in a while I stop the allopurinal just to see what happens. After a couple days the toe starts getting tender and I know that, yes, I really do need to keep taking it.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 10:05 AM
Oh yeah I've had gout for close to ten years. I've had some episodes of pain being so bad that I couldn't sleep. The doctor has me on indocin prescribed 3 times a day but I only take one because I manage my diet better than before. Oddly for me the main culprit is usually too much chicken unlike everyone else where red meat or shellfish will cause flare ups. Gravies are also real bad so I've cut that down to about once a month.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 11:59 AM
My Dad had a couple of times. Hope I don't get it!
 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 01:28 PM
Me and John Wayne.

They say if you want to kill yourself, just walk up to a gout victim, hand them a gun and say "If you don't shoot me, I will stomp on your gouty toe".

98% of the time this will work.

Folks that don't have it need to understand two things:

* The weight of just a bed sheet on the foot is equal to to that of a Sherman Tank.
* Opening a door...just the air movement that it creates is equal to a sledge hammer when it hits the exposed toe.

Understand those two things and you will understand why a bedside lamp has knocked you upside the head.

I wear a size 13 shoe. I had a flare up at work and was unable to get my foot into a size 16 boot! An X-ray of my big toe (after treatment) revealed that a huge chunk of the bone is now gone--looks as if a rat took a bite out of it! This is why in most photos of me I am wearing sandals--- like Patrickchrenshaws wearing his shorts--- even in the cold months. I can't even skip a day of allopurinol...a feeling as if a rat was inside my foot scratching to get out will start...not a gentle rat either!

Pray you don't get it and have pity on us that do.








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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 01:56 PM

 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 02:37 PM
sure I got it.

allopurinol 2X a day gets 'er done - never have had a lick a pain though.

but I have everything..........cholesterol, high bp, three immuno suppression drugs - have had two organ transplant surgeries = ('96 & '98).......used to take insulin.......that stuff is a handfull.

Gout: > take the meds. lay off the "red red wine" and beef, eat other meats and drink rum > drink a ton of water e-berry-day...........work out hard 3x per week= gotta sweat.........then listen to a lot of Jazz and Derek.

good thangs will happen.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 03:44 PM
Add me to the allopurinol club and I have an Indocin Rx for as needed use. I can't eat too rich and drink-maybe a little of one or the other-and as soon as I feel anything odd I get a lot more careful, drink more water and take the Indocin as an anti-inflammatory. My flare ups used to be in my feet/ankles. I also remember my dad not being able to walk because of the pain.
I have not have a major attack in years because I know what to do, but Tan Dan's description of the pain was accurate.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 05:50 PM
Yeah, I'm 44 now and this chit settled in My right big toe about five yrs. ago. I really enjoy walking, but this has slowed Me down, I haven't sought medical help yet, found I can get some relief by consuming cherries, fresh, dried or juice regularly especially when its buggin' Me.......Peace....joe
 

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  posted on 5/11/2008 at 11:54 PM

Allopurinol works for me also. I have Indocin for flare-ups but I'm not on a maitenence dose. I tried Cholcacine(sp ? ) once but it was a bad as the Gout so never again.
The way I describe the pain is imagine someone holding a red hot poker on your toe while trying to pry your joint open with a dull spoon. People have said that the only pain worse is child birth. I avoid beef and beer but do indulge every so often and have found if I take Indocin afterwards I can avoid a flare-up.

 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 02:30 AM
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I tried Cholcacine(sp ? ) once but it was a bad as the Gout so never again.



Assume you're referring to the main side effect ( explosive diarrhea)

Think about it. Just the thought of putting any weight on your foot fills you w/ dread & this medication has you needing a run to the bathroom every 20 minutes. I'll second that "never again"

Every once in a while when the toe &/or ankle start acting up I find that a few doses of Aleve (naproxin) quiets things down.

"The Gout Relief Handbook" by Chet Cunningham is pretty helpful, used to have a link but it's not valid anymore.

Good for Gout:
lots of water
lemon juice
100% cranberry juice
black cherries
strawberries
bananas
broccoli
potatoes
turkey (chicken too but I guess that doesn't work for everyone)

Bad for Gout: (Just about everything I love to eat and drink!)
alcohol
beer (doubly bad since it contains yeast)
high fructose corn syrup (most sodas)
caffeine
red meat/organ meats
gravies
fried foods
shellfish
oatmeal
baked goods
mushrooms
asparagus
spinach


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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 06:29 AM
I've had it about 10 years now, once it started it kept recurring. I'd check webmd or some other site for foods that trigger. The conventional wisdom of "rich man's diet" doesn't necessarily still hold. Booze seems to trigger mine, need a couple of weeks of heavy drinking...usually a week's vacation followed by a rough weekend.

My doctor prescribes colchisine and indomethacin and I get relief within 4-6 hours and cured within 2-3 days. I haven't taken the preventative, flareups are rare enough (knock wood).

For those wondering if it's that bad, yeah it is. You literally can put NO pressure on the toe at all, a bed sheet, barely touching the floor when you walk, ANY shoe....

 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 11:31 AM
{raises hand} yep, me, too!

Take Allopurinol 2x's a day. If a flare up hits, the Dr gave me Colchicine (can't take Indocin, since it's an anti-inflammatory and I have some kidney damage, so NSAIDs are a no-no)...which is great & works fast, but the negative side effect is bad diarrhea (sp?). Ok, ok...as previously described...EXPLOSIVE!!

Pure Cherry Juice is supposedly a great homeopathic preventative to Gout attacks. I've found this to work for me, as well.

I hadn't had an attack in almost a year, when my Kidney Dr took me off the Allopurinol, about a week later, WHAM! the toe started in. So, I ignored the Dr's orders and started taking the Allopurinol again...add the three glasses of Cherry Juice a day and attack subsided and all but disappeared within a couple of days, before it could strike full-on. So, being that I took BOTH things, I'm not sure which actually worked the best or if it was due to taking both things that helped so quickly.

My Kidney Dr told me to look up "Low Purine Diet" on the web...

Here are a couple of links:
http://www.joint-pain.com/low-purine-diet.html
http://www.gout-haters.com/


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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 12:49 PM
I suffer, but it's more along of the lines of I have trouble saying no when a buddy says "Let's gout and get drunk!"

Seriously, I wish y'all the best of luck in dealing w/ it.....a cousin has said that the gout in his big toe is much worse than the knee surgery he had!

 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 02:38 PM
I unfortunately get Gout twice a year. In November I go on a week long hunting trip with alcohol and overeating being a predominate target. In March I have many Saint Patricks Day parties and parades and of course The Allman Brothers Beacon run. Normally I get the Gout within a week of these two times. I don't take Allopurinol because I don't get it often enough according to my MD. I take Cochicine when I know, and believe me you know when you are getting it, the Gout is coming. The side effects are that you take the Colchicine every 4 hours until you get diarreah, then you stop taking it and you are fine thereafter. The diarreah seems to be effected by how bad my behavior was. Way too much drinking and eating - very bad diarreah. Not too bad - not so bad. If you never know when you are going to get the gout go with the Allopurinol, if you get it rarely without meds and can tell when you are going to get it go with the Colchicine, if you don'y mind the nasty side effect of diarreah. Good Luck and,

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  posted on 5/13/2008 at 04:23 AM
I have it/had it. I also rode the allipurinol/colchesine highway. Thankfully (knock on wood) I haven't had a outbreak for over a year. It TOTALLY sucks. I don't know what's worse, as a guy anyway, Gout, or getting hit in the groin? I think the pain is equal, in fact Gout might be worse. Yes, I went through the bedsheet bizness too OUCH!!! Ended up going to the hospital it got so bad and if I was still using drugs like back years ago, I probably would have sawed off my own foot.
To this day I am very weary of high citric acid levels. Lobster, Strawberries, Lots of Asparagus, all my fav stuff, can't have it in great quantities anymore, I am just too afraid of the thought of Gout returning. What sucks worse is I cook for a living, have for many years, so I am really self conscious of it now.
I couldn't agree with everyone else in this post, if you don't have it, consider yourself lucky. It hurts so bad. Seriously, as I aforementioned, if I was high and got it, I probably would have cut my own foot off. Gross yes, but its worse than ANY broken bone I have ever had. UGH!!

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 01:22 PM
Something I read when reseraching gout (I have a friend who suffers from this). Often gout is a by-product of diabetes, eat lots of cherries (lowers the uric acid which is elevated by gout), and STAY AWAY from bacon if you suffer from gout!

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 01:59 PM
The cherry thing works...and quite fast, too. Kudos to whomever discovered that "natural" remedy!!
 
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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 03:24 PM
This has to be one of the most intersting and insightful posts on this site in weeks!!! Who knew gout was so bad?? my father in-law gets it, thought it was painful but not as bad as described here. I feel for all you guys. I'm not even getting into the explosive crapper part.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 03:45 PM
The one word that I have seen repeated in medical articles when describing the pain of gout is 'excruciating'. I've not seen that word used as often as it is with gout.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 04:18 PM
I have a photo of my first gout attack....

It was 1993 and my canoe buddy thought it was a riot that I had stopped fishing and had taken my shoe off and zoned out. The foot was about to bust out of the shoe. I was ill. Nothing was on my mind but the pain!! What you can't see in the pix is that all the wrinkles, folds, creases...whatever, in my foot are gone! The site also gets red and shiney. I was in the middle of a 5 day thru trip of the Okefenokee Swamp when this occurred and nowhere near a hospital.

I thought that I had broken my foot. I had a clutch back then and I almost couldn't drive home, had to pull off the side of the road many times and contemplated calling 911. When I told the MD that I thought I had broken my foot, she said 'when, where, what were you doing?' I said I didn't know. She said that if I had broken my foot I'd be able most likely to state time,date,place. She then asked if I'd ever had gout. I then told her that my uric acid level had been high on a physical years before. She said she'd give me something for the pain and I said it was fine with me if she cut the foot off!

A lifesaver was on Floyd's Island, in the middle of the swamp...there was a hand pump that drew very cold water up from underground. I found a bucket and filled it with the icy water and stuck my foot in it. I recall freezing my foot until it was numb! Anything at all felt better than what was happening.

I also have had the gout in my knees. That is horrible also.


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