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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 04:42 AM
This situation is so out of hand. I didn't realize this was once Burma until last year when they were gunning down monks.Do they consider the government communists? The people that live there are mostly Buddhists, who are so passive they would never make an attempt to overthrow the government who has been there since 89. I may be ranting in the wrong place here, but this situation is just too crazy to me.. Pray for these people please. I know this is a very long post, but I felt it needed to be brought up, and I would like to hear some other folks opinions. Thanks, Kevin





UN blasts Myanmar for visa policy on aid workers
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Posted: 2008-05-09 04:39:02
YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - The United Nations blasted Myanmar's military junta on Friday, calling its refusal to let in foreign aid workers "unprecedented" as survivors of a devastating cyclone waited for food, shelter and medicine.

The junta said in a statement Friday it was grateful to the international community for its assistance - which has included 11 chartered planes loaded with aid supplies - but the best way to help was just to send in material rather than personnel.

One relief flight was sent back after landing in Yangon on Thursday because it carried a search-and-rescue team and media representatives who had not received permission to enter the country, the junta said. It did not give details, but said the plane had flown in from Qatar, apparently referring to a U.N. flight.

According to state media, 22,997 people died and 42,019 are missing from Cyclone Nargis, which hit the country's Irrawaddy delta on Saturday. Shari Villarosa, who heads the United States Embassy in Yangon, said the number of dead could eventually exceed 100,000 because of illnesses.

On Friday, Japan said it will give aid worth $10 million through the U.N. to Myanmar, adding to the massive amounts of aid that has been pledged by foreign governments.

However, the isolationist regime of this Southeast Asian nation has refused to grant visas to foreign aid workers who could assess the extent of the disaster and manage the logistics.

Paul Risley, a spokesman for the U.N. World Food Program, said the organization has submitted 10 visa applications around the world, including six in Bangkok, Thailand, but none has been approved.

Even if the government changes its mind, there is no hope of getting any visas in Bangkok until Monday because of a Thai holiday Friday that has shut down the Myanmar Embassy, Risley said.

"The frustration caused by what appears to be a paperwork delay is unprecedented in modern humanitarian relief efforts," said Risley, who is based in Bangkok. "It's astonishing.

"We strongly urge the government of Myanmar to process these visa applications as quickly as possible, including work over the weekend," he said.

But there was no sign the junta was relenting.

"Currently Myanmar has prioritized receiving emergency relief provisions and making strenuous effort delivering it with its own labor to the affected areas," said the junta statement, carried in the state-owned New Light of Myanmar newspaper.

The announcement came as critical aid and experts to go with it were poised in neighboring Thailand and elsewhere to rush into Myanmar, one of the world's poorest nations.

"Believe me the government will not allow outsiders to go into the devastated area. The government only cares about its own stability. They don't care about the plight of the people," said Yangon food shop owner Joseph Kyaw, one of many residents angry at the regime for doing little to help them recover from the storm's destruction.

Among those waiting in Thailand were members of the USAID Disaster Assistance Response Team. Air Force transport planes and helicopters packed with supplies also sat waiting for a green light to enter Myanmar, also known as Burma.

"We are in a long line of nations who are ready, willing and able to help, but also, of course, in a long line of nations the Burmese don't trust," U.S. Ambassador Eric John told reporters in Thailand's capital, Bangkok, on Thursday.

Myanmar allowed the first major international aid shipment Thursday - four U.N. planes carrying high-energy biscuits, including one which was apparently turned back. On Friday, state-owned television showed a cargo plane from Italy with water containers, food and plastic sheets at Yangon international airport.

Two of four U.N. experts who flew in to assess the damage were turned back at the airport for unknown reasons, but the other two were allowed to enter, said John Holmes, the U.N. relief coordinator.

It is not clear how much of the aid is reaching the Irrawaddy delta, where entire villages have been submerged with bodies floating in salty water and children ripped from their parents' arms.

The U.N. estimated that more than 1 million people have been left homeless.

"The most dramatic situation is the case of children who have lost their parents. We don't know at the moment how many have lost their parents, relatives," said Juanita Vasquez, a representative of the U.N. Children's Fund in Myanmar.

Grim assessments about the immediate future continued: The aid group Action Against Hunger noted that the delta region is known as the country's granary, and the cyclone hit before the harvest.

"If the harvest has been destroyed this will have a devastating impact on food security in Myanmar," the group said.

In Yangon itself, the price of increasingly scarce water shot up by more than 500 percent, and rice and oil jumped by 60 percent over the last three days, the group said.

Hardships in the country's largest city have prompted some embassies, including that of the United States, to send diplomats' families out of the country.

Although the military regime had begun allowing in the first major international aid shipments, it snubbed a U.S. offer to help cyclone victims

By doing so, the junta refused to take advantage of Washington's enormous ability to deliver aid quickly, which was evident during the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami that killed 230,000 people in a dozen nations.

The first foreign military aid following that disaster reached the hardest-hit nation, Indonesia, two days later. The most significant help came when U.S. helicopters from the USS Abraham Lincoln began flying relief missions to isolated communities along the Indonesian coast.

With roads in the Irrawaddy delta washed out and the infrastructure in shambles, large swaths of the region are accessible only by air, something few other countries are equipped to handle as well as the U.S.

Tim Costello, chief executive of World Vision Australia, said that "it's certainly the case that the Americans, as they showed in the tsunami, have extraordinary capacity."

The U.S. government, which has strongly criticized the junta's suppression of pro-democracy activists, will have to convince the generals that Washington has no political agenda, Costello said.

Meanwhile, in Canberra, Australia, protesters angry at the Myanmar regime threw a bottle at a diplomat's car and scuffled with police outside the country's embassy. Three people were detained by police.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd criticized the junta for its restrictions on aid workers.

Also on Thursday, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates announced that the Gates Foundation would donate $3 million for relief efforts and provide software to help reunite family members separated in the cyclone.

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 05:30 AM
calling it Myanmar actually gives credence to the military junta. the country is officially called Burma.


 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 07:46 AM
Terrible and sad situation.
 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 08:44 AM
My oldest daughter's boyfriend is a Marine. They are stationed outside Burma on a boat just waiting to get permission to go in and help. Very frustrating.

 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 08:48 AM
It gets more bizarre and sad:

BANGKOK, Thailand (CNN) -- Authorities in cyclone-ravaged Myanmar have seized United Nations aid intended for victims of the disaster, prompting the organization to halt future relief flights, a U.N. World Food Program official said.

The organization, which insists on distributing its own relief supplies, says two aircraft-loads of food, medicine and equipment, were seized by the army in Myanmar's main city Yangon.

"This is another example of them actively getting in the way of relief getting to the victims," said Tony Banbury, Asia director of the World Food Program.

Asked whether the move would jeopardize future U.N. aid flights, he said, "absolutely, from our perspective, it shuts them down."

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 11:47 AM
It is heartbreaking that so many are suffering in Myanmar at the hands of nature. It is equally maddening that the government there is not taking care of these poor souls and refuses to let supplies through.

 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 06:35 PM
Too bad they don't have any oil!

 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 07:08 PM
We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?
 

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  posted on 5/9/2008 at 07:52 PM
Not much in my opinion. Unfortunately there is going to be lots of suffering for innocent people.

It's a good opportunity to remember the blessings in our lives and how fortunate most of us are to have access to safe water, food, and a warm place to sleep.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2008 at 11:28 AM
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It is heartbreaking that so many are suffering in Myanmar at the hands of nature. It is equally maddening that the government there is not taking care of these poor souls and refuses to let supplies through.


US foreign policy has pissed off many countries all over the world.

 

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It is heartbreaking that so many are suffering in Myanmar at the hands of nature. It is equally maddening that the government there is not taking care of these poor souls and refuses to let supplies through.


US foreign policy has pissed off many countries all over the world.


Not as much as the foreign policies of other countries. Some situations have been disappointing but I'll take ours any day. At least we strive and attempt to make it better (this election has brought out a lot of passion in our society).

 

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  posted on 5/10/2008 at 10:06 PM
SEND SQUATCH TEXAS OVERTHERE...HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.

 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 04:52 AM
The U.S. is damned if we do and damned if we don't in so many cases, worldwide.

 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 07:22 AM
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Too bad they don't have any oil!


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We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?


United Nations is the most worthless piece of crap out there. Myamar knows it like Sudan, and most of the countries in Africa.

I'm sorry I have to respond but you brain dead liberals, but you are making me sick, and enough is enough. SO now some of my ranting.

This is a disgusting situation, just like many other areas around the world, and it’s all George Bush’s fault. Yeah right, like Bush created Terrorism, 9/11 was a conspiracy by him to crush NY so he could invade for Oil.

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We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?


First off, when a disaster hits, like New Orleans, your priority order to fix it, is
1. Local
2 State
3, Federal

Local was the Mayor of New Orleans- who did the worst job manageable.

He is black, and a Democrat and he gets re-elected.

Rudy had a major crisis, he responded, and yeah, he's white and a Republican.

State was the Governor, who waited too long to ask for aid, and totally screwed up, yep a woman and a Democrat.

Federal, which screwed up, George Bush a republican and the Liberal media puts all the blame on him, and like a fool he takes it. If but if you think our government can fix anything, keep dreaming.


We are screwed, Obama is a joke, hates America, will take all your money, because if you make more than 50,000 you’re rich according to democrats. We will know have to pay for the biggest lie yet, Global Warming, Health Care, Social Security, and pay restitution to all blacks

How come we can’t walk into Microsoft with a new college degree and limited experience, and demand to be the CEO, but to get elected President in this country, you need neither.

Hillary doesn’t know what Truth is, and McCain really is a Democrat, but since the Democratic Party is so far left, and is now communist & socialist, he looks like a Republican.

Why is it when a Democrat gets busted, he doesn’t go to jail, and gets promoted, and Republicans have to leave office and go to jail.

Why is it a Traitor like Kerry runs for president like a war hero, with fake medals and accommodations he put in for, and the real heroes “Swift Boat Veterans”, tell the truth and get trashed.

Why is it, we have energy crisis, helping bring the economy down, and there is no solution forthcoming. Because we can’t build Nuclear Power plants, which all the Liberals in Europe are building, we can’t drill for Oil over here, and we have to wait on Technology that may never materialize.

The only freedom of the press is if you toe the Liberal line and get fed their daily Bull **** and actually believe it after time.

Even Dan Rather can’t admit he lied and tried to forge Documents, because he hates George Bush.

The War In Iraq and against terrorism would be over, if Bush didn’t have to fight them in his own country, masquerading as Liberals

So now we will have all liberals running the show.

Funny how we haven’t had a major terrorist attack since 9/11 against the US, and the Democrats like Clinton & Carter had them all the time and did nothing.

And probably the only president worse than Clinton, Jimmy Carter, gets in bed with his terrorist friends, and leads credibility to their” Worthy Cause” of eliminating Israel.


The middle east rampant with Terrorism is because of the bang up Job, Peanut head Jimmy Carter did with Iran so many years ago.

Yeah Obama will sit down with Ahmadinejad of Iran and convince him not to build nukes and give it his terrorist groups.

And he won’t raise taxes either.





 

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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 07:59 AM
Gosh, I'm beginning to think that you won't vote for Obama.
I'll partially agree with you on one issue and that is: The U.N. is a piece of crap and is only better than not having any U.N. at all. This administration has practiced a policy of not speaking to countries who don't agree with us. So how's that wotking for you?
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  posted on 5/12/2008 at 11:36 AM
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Too bad they don't have any oil!


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We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?


United Nations is the most worthless piece of crap out there. Myamar knows it like Sudan, and most of the countries in Africa.

I'm sorry I have to respond but you brain dead liberals, but you are making me sick, and enough is enough. SO now some of my ranting.

This is a disgusting situation, just like many other areas around the world, and it’s all George Bush’s fault. Yeah right, like Bush created Terrorism, 9/11 was a conspiracy by him to crush NY so he could invade for Oil.

quote:
We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?


First off, when a disaster hits, like New Orleans, your priority order to fix it, is
1. Local
2 State
3, Federal

Local was the Mayor of New Orleans- who did the worst job manageable.

He is black, and a Democrat and he gets re-elected.

Rudy had a major crisis, he responded, and yeah, he's white and a Republican.

State was the Governor, who waited too long to ask for aid, and totally screwed up, yep a woman and a Democrat.

Federal, which screwed up, George Bush a republican and the Liberal media puts all the blame on him, and like a fool he takes it. If but if you think our government can fix anything, keep dreaming.


We are screwed, Obama is a joke, hates America, will take all your money, because if you make more than 50,000 you’re rich according to democrats. We will know have to pay for the biggest lie yet, Global Warming, Health Care, Social Security, and pay restitution to all blacks

How come we can’t walk into Microsoft with a new college degree and limited experience, and demand to be the CEO, but to get elected President in this country, you need neither.

Hillary doesn’t know what Truth is, and McCain really is a Democrat, but since the Democratic Party is so far left, and is now communist & socialist, he looks like a Republican.

Why is it when a Democrat gets busted, he doesn’t go to jail, and gets promoted, and Republicans have to leave office and go to jail.

Why is it a Traitor like Kerry runs for president like a war hero, with fake medals and accommodations he put in for, and the real heroes “Swift Boat Veterans”, tell the truth and get trashed.

Why is it, we have energy crisis, helping bring the economy down, and there is no solution forthcoming. Because we can’t build Nuclear Power plants, which all the Liberals in Europe are building, we can’t drill for Oil over here, and we have to wait on Technology that may never materialize.

The only freedom of the press is if you toe the Liberal line and get fed their daily Bull **** and actually believe it after time.

Even Dan Rather can’t admit he lied and tried to forge Documents, because he hates George Bush.

The War In Iraq and against terrorism would be over, if Bush didn’t have to fight them in his own country, masquerading as Liberals

So now we will have all liberals running the show.

Funny how we haven’t had a major terrorist attack since 9/11 against the US, and the Democrats like Clinton & Carter had them all the time and did nothing.

And probably the only president worse than Clinton, Jimmy Carter, gets in bed with his terrorist friends, and leads credibility to their” Worthy Cause” of eliminating Israel.


The middle east rampant with Terrorism is because of the bang up Job, Peanut head Jimmy Carter did with Iran so many years ago.

Yeah Obama will sit down with Ahmadinejad of Iran and convince him not to build nukes and give it his terrorist groups.

And he won’t raise taxes either.







what the heck was that about? This is by far one of the worst disasters to hit a country, and you find a way to tie in the elections here and terrorism. Way off base. These people need help. Period. Send some prayers and healing vibes there!

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 02:27 PM
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It is heartbreaking that so many are suffering in Myanmar at the hands of nature. It is equally maddening that the government there is not taking care of these poor souls and refuses to let supplies through.


US foreign policy has pissed off many countries all over the world.
Yes, gina - would expect this answer from you. OK - what about the foreign aid that is being funneled into Myanmar that is not a product of US???

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 02:31 PM
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The U.S. is damned if we do and damned if we don't in so many cases, worldwide.


So true, even by our own citizens...we do what we do, which is help and our own citizens only complain..."yea, but what about Katrina huh?"

 

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  posted on 5/14/2008 at 02:36 PM
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We never took care of New Orleans. Why worry about Myanmar?


The scope of this disaster is infinitely greater and has the potential to get even worse, as famine and disease set in. Not that there's any sense in comparing the two.


so if we can't manage New Orleans how can we manage something infinitely greater?

 

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