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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 04:49 PM
While reading this thread, I raised this question in my mind. I have been going to festivals for 35 years now. I guess I have been fortunate to be surrounded by like minded people, and when I do see the folks partying it is no deal at all. I feel sorry for these guys. Most of the younger generation( under 30) do not know state laws- state by state.It is something they should check into before they take road trips to festivals. I am in no way condoning hard drug use.The use of Mother Natures gifts has never been a problem, and the laws just suck. I was pulled over in Florida in 04 because a passerby took my tag number and called 911 saying I was smoking pot. It was a Camel non filter. I was surrounded on I75 for 15 minutes while my car was searched. They walked away with nothing. For those of you being so judgmental on these guys, lighten up! It's not like most of the musicians you praise in these posts don't smoke an occasional hand rolled. It would bother you to find out that it had been one of your favorite artists playing Wanee going through this. If this truly is a family, send these guys a prayer.






 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 04:57 PM
Funny how artists never get busted for partaking at a show. Even though most security members are off duty police. Imagine that?

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 05:28 PM
Why a 2nd thread?

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 06:05 PM
Tim, I just felt the need to give these guys support. The other thread was getting posts almost saying they got what they asked for. Maybe so due to ignorance which at one point in our lives, we have all been guilty of. Alchohol included.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 06:20 AM
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Tim, I just felt the need to give these guys support. The other thread was getting posts almost saying they got what they asked for. Maybe so due to ignorance which at one point in our lives, we have all been guilty of. Alchohol included.


The law is the law. Be smart, think with your head and not with your bong. I like to have fun and I am not trying to sound self righteous, but people need to get a clue.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 06:45 AM
Funny how artists never get busted for partaking at a show. Even though most security members are off duty police. Imagine that?

My two cents-
The musicians DO get busted and harrassed all the time but you almost never hear about it because a. they have really good lawyers and publicists and b. most musicians that have spent significant time on the road know which festivals, venues and states have super "unfriendly" security/police. A lot of bands have been harrassed so much on the road they don't even bother taking anything with them on the bus and have to rely on the "kindness" of fans after the show.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 07:00 AM
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Tim, I just felt the need to give these guys support. The other thread was getting posts almost saying they got what they asked for. Maybe so due to ignorance which at one point in our lives, we have all been guilty of. Alchohol included.


Well i'm not saying they got what they ask for. I feel bad for them.

But if your gonna do it, you KNOW it's is against that law. Just because in our own mind there is nothing wrong with it....does not change the law.

Be willing to face the consequences, I sure as hell have for over 35 years.

I get busted, then it's no one else fault but my own.

And if one of my favorite artist gets busted, then thats his/her problem, not mine. Their no better than the rest of us.

Geeze the guys got popped for getting high, not murder. It happens all the damn time.

We already have one thread on the same exact topic.

I don't think people are saying they deserved it, I think people are saying you have to face up to it when you get caught, I sure as hell would not expect everyone else to get worked up into a frenzy over it.


Because whether we like it or not...it's not legal. People can bitch about the law all they want. But until it's changed your taking a risk everytime you light up.

I smoke anywhere I want at show, and I know if I get caught...it's because of me. Not the Police.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 08:10 AM
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Funny how artists never get busted for partaking at a show. Even though most security members are off duty police. Imagine that?

My two cents-
The musicians DO get busted and harrassed all the time but you almost never hear about it because a. they have really good lawyers and publicists and b. most musicians that have spent significant time on the road know which festivals, venues and states have super "unfriendly" security/police. A lot of bands have been harrassed so much on the road they don't even bother taking anything with them on the bus and have to rely on the "kindness" of fans after the show.


The "name" acts don't get busted Mike. It would be all over the papers and media no matter how much they would try and conceal it. Lawyers can get you off but they can't control the media. Also artists from other countries would not gain access back into the US easily. Look at the history of music. Zeppelin - no busts for drugs in the US. Jagger once over 40 years? Richards got busted a few times but he was so sure of himself that he left heroin in his bag. The ABB has had no trouble since Gregg's issues in the 70s. The list goes on and on. Sure some have been busted but a tiny percentage and those busts are never at a show.

The honest truth is that off duty police are employed by the promoters and they shield the bands. This is extra money for police and they would be cutting off their own cash supply. Many of these officers also "know" how to help these artists out and will turn a blind eye to an amazing amount of things.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 12:19 PM
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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 12:44 PM
Don't think the Brothers haven't been busted for drugs before....more than once.
 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 01:01 PM
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Don't think the Brothers haven't been busted for drugs before....more than once.


Definitely but they have steered clear for quite some time now.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 01:22 PM
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have to rely on the "kindness" of fans after the show.



Hey I get that joke!

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 01:28 PM
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Don't think the Brothers haven't been busted for drugs before....more than once.


Definitely but they have steered clear for quite some time now.


Yes, they have....but they weren't so big or famous that they didn't get busted back during the day and that's what I was responding too. Maybe today rock stars get a pass....but in the 60s and 70s that wasn't the case.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 01:30 PM

When I used to drink, I would smoke weed anywhere just about. Lord knows I should have been busted a few times :

Once at Wrestling in the Omni, I lit one up, blew my friends mine. I kept hearing this lady yelling. I finally recognized that she was yelling "Put that sh*t out, it stinks"..LOL !

At Lakewood I will walk around by myself and smoke, although I have smoked in groups. One time I cuffed my doob and walked right by 2 cops.

Smoked many a joint in the bathroom at the Masquerade.

My fave was at the 99x "Big Day Out" at Lakewood. I was there with my Girlfriend, my Daughter(who was 21) and my Sister. I had lit up quite a few, no one else with me was smoking. This "Mr.Dad" type Dude walked up and looked at me real serious and said "You know something buddy, you sure are a great influence on these young people here" in a real smart a$$ way. I acted as if he was really complimenting me. I said "Thank you Sir !, I'm trying the best I can". Pissed him off bigtime.

The Best was at the Fox during a Bush show(No not George Bush). I was smoking and these young Dudes were next to me. I offered them a hit and they took it. Later they pulled out this monster joint. They offered it to me, what I did not know was that there was crack rock in the joint. I was dancing around and I hit that joint, all of a sudden I felt like I stepped on an elevator going up 100 mph. My legs turned rubbery and I fell to my knees while I was boogying. I looked at those young dudes and they were laughing like crazy. Then I started laughing. My Sister looked at me and said "You dumbass, don't be smoking something that you don't know whats in it."...only time I ever hit a crack rock.

Smoked a joint in the stall at the Masquerade with this dude, then I saw him on stage...he was the drummer for Down. He was playing with a band called EYEHATEGOD at the time.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 01:47 PM
About 12 years ago or so in the bathroom at IMAC in Huntington, NY I was smoking a dube in the stall in between sets at a Jefferson Starship show. Someone comes in to take a wizz and says "Oh yeah, that smells great". I opened the stall door to find a smiling Paul Kantner.

 

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Don't think the Brothers haven't been busted for drugs before....more than once.


Definitely but they have steered clear for quite some time now.


Yes, they have....but they weren't so big or famous that they didn't get busted back during the day and that's what I was responding too. Maybe today rock stars get a pass....but in the 60s and 70s that wasn't the case.


My point exactly Big Ann. In the 70s, promoters and bands got smart and started to hire off duty police as security. Helped clear up many things. Money talks and there is no better protection than the police in those instances.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 02:55 PM
I just noticed the other Awful Story thread has been deleted. Hope it was not something I said....

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 03:34 PM
That thread turned very ugly, with lots of personal insults. As far as people getting busted at Wanee, I was there and did not see any of that happening. The worst scene I ever witnessed was Merriweather Post (in the parking lot) at a Phil and Friends show in 2001 or 2002. That was friggin' scary--UC cops everywhere jerking folks out of cars. I think the authorities generally leave folks alone--at most venues--as long as they are discreet. Living around Raleigh, I will tell anybody going to Alltell at Walnut Creek to be VERY careful--they are nazis, and they did not used to be. Peace.
 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 03:37 PM
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I just noticed the other Awful Story thread has been deleted. Hope it was not something I said....
Same here, Brock. I pushed myself away from the keyboard at one point and don't know what transpired after that.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:02 PM
So much fuss over a victimless crime.

This kind of stuff has been going on at rock concerts and festivals since the beginning. Some cities and venues make exceptions for these types of gatherings. I guess they are fully aware at the revenues brought in to local hotels, restaurants, stores, gas stations and other businesses.

I'm not advocating turning a total blind eye to things. Driving under the influence of ANYTHING, giving ANY drug or alcohol to a minor and uncivilized conduct should land a perpetrator in the big house (not the one in Macon, either).

Y'all have heard my rant many times now.

Some of the kindest, smartest and most talented people that I know are casual hemp users. In my life I have known teachers, preachers, politicians, lawyers - people from virtually every walk of life who like to par-toke in a little herbal relief from time to time. I've seen a lot of silly, red-eyed folks who were just having a good time and not hurting a soul.

Then there is the legal drug known as alcohol. I can only roll my eyes when I read comments from folks who frown on drug use but are okay with knocking a case or two back every now and then. To those folks I say, "guess what? "You're doing drugs."

It's not what I've read or heard, it's what I've seen up close. My grandfather, my father and my brother all died alcohol related deaths. Aside from Meth and Crack Cocaine, I've probably seen more damage done by this legal drug than anything.

Am I advocating prohibition on alcohol? Absolutely NOT! I believe that as taxpayers, we entrust our government with making too many other important decisions without getting involved in our personal lives.

Keep in mind that alcohol was once illegal. There was even a period of time when alcohol was illegal and marijuana was legal.

Illegal alcohol lead to organized crime. After a while, our government decided to take an, "if you can't beat 'em - tax 'em" stance. Nowadays every top you pop - every seal you break represents a nice chunk of change sent to the government.

Speaking of taxes - if cigarettes are as bad as they say they are (they lead to cancer when used as directed), why are they legal? After the taxes and fines that were imposed on tobacco growers by our government, it would've been just for the growers and manufacturers to just stop growing and producing. But the joke was on the consumer-smoker-taxpayer! The tobacco industry just passed this fine onto its customers. I'm sure there was a lot of laughter around a round table in Washington, D.C. once the camera crews left the room.

So why not legalize marijuana?

If pot were legalized in the U.S.and in Mexico, think of the industries, jobs and tax revenues that would be created. The "illegal immigrant" problem would also be reduced. Why sneak into a country to pick lettuce and tomatoes when you could stay in your own country with your loved ones and cultivate another crop?

Ans speaking of farmers - I have met many crusty old farmers from Georgia, Alabama and Florida who would never, EVER smoke the stuff. But they'll tell you in a minute that they could make more money off of 1/4 acre of that crop than they could off a couple of square miles of vegetables.

Yeah, these kids who got popped probably should've exercised a little more discretion. But they got hauled off to some podunk jail and got a permanent record instead.

Next year, maybe we can set up a Krispy-Kreme stand at the gate to the Wanee Park. Give those heroes in blue something to do.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:09 PM
Great post, Rusty. I am with you EVERY word of the way.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:13 PM
Rusty, nice sermon, but you're preaching to the choir....for the most part.

I agree with what you say in regard to alcohol and tobacco. They do just as much, if not more, damage than hemp does.

Having said that, we had a long discussion thread way before the start of Wanee about how to keep par-toking on the down low. They must have missed that thread. I DO feel for them. It's a hard lesson to live through. Everything like this is a learning experience. Walk away from it enlightened and don't make the same mistake twice.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:19 PM
If you can get busted in your own car in your own campsite, Dave, then apparently "par-toking on the down low" won't prevent you from getting busted at Wanee. I think the best advice really is if you want to toke up, do not go to Wanee.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:33 PM
Sitting in a car with 2 or 3 other guys isn't what I'd consider on the down low. The wind can't catch the smoke and dissipate it into the night air. Look, I'm not getting down on these guys. I just think they could have sat out in the evening air and done this and maybe not have been as conspicuous. There was one instance of someone I wasn't familiar with who didn't look like a cop, but had a two way radio, come walking through camp while and someone alerted me to their presence. After they left, we resumed what we were doing, no problems.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 04:47 PM
Sitting in your car and smoking a tater anywhere will get you busted. Get out of the car.............period!
 
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