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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 04:48 AM
What is a good live album? I dig the first 4 Santana albums (Santana, Abraxas, III, and Caravanserai) but own no live stuff whatsoever. Lotus and Fillmore 68 are the only things I really see in the discography, but are either of those really representative of this period?

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 05:21 AM
Fillmore 68 is good on its own terms - they're a young band and it is pretty "jammy"

Lotus is the one to get - you will find some of the Caravanserai stuff there as well as stuff from Welcome and also stuff that was not released at the time. Long explorations of "Incident at Neshabur" and others and Carlos throws in a whole bunch of teases along the way. Lotus was actually only originally released in Japan as a 3 LP set but then issued on CD in 1991.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 05:49 AM
Moonflower, which contains some studio tracks, has many live performances on it. This is one of my all time favorite albums.
 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 06:25 AM
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Moonflower, which contains some studio tracks, has many live performances on it. This is one of my all time favorite albums.


Yeah... If I had to reccomend Santana stuff it would be the first four releases, Lotus ,Moonflower which is awesome, An Fillmore 1968. Some of his other stuff in the 70's and 80's is kinda hit or miss and not always my cup of tea.
I did like Spirits dancing In The Flesh, that came out I think in the late 80's or 1990.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 06:25 AM
Lotus is a remarkable record,IMO....a must have.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 08:57 AM
If you learn to do torrents, you will find an amazing variety of great live Santana shows- there are a lot of great early soundboard recordings.

 

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If you learn to do torrents, you will find an amazing variety of great live Santana shows- there are a lot of great early soundboard recordings.


My college network blocks torrents

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 09:42 AM
The second disc of the Santana III Legacy Edition is my favorite live disc from the band. The Legacy Edition of the first album is also good, containing the band's full set from Woodstock.

Between those two, Lotus, and Moonflower, four good choices for hearing some early, live Santana.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 10:06 AM
Agree with the previous posts here re: Moonflower, Lotus, Spirits. Also really like Sacred Fire as a live recording and am fond of Milagro.

 

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If you learn to do torrents, you will find an amazing variety of great live Santana shows- there are a lot of great early soundboard recordings.


My college network blocks torrents


If that's the case, you need to transfer. Or at least look into some of the encryption methods to get around the block.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 01:00 PM
'Sacred Fire' is the most recent live Santana album I can think of. I think it came out in the mid 90s.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 01:17 PM
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'Sacred Fire' is the most recent live Santana album I can think of. I think it came out in the mid 90s.


I got it then on Laser Disc. and recently it was also released on DVD.

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 09:20 PM
Lotus has some pretty nice stuff
I believe it's Osaka Jpn. '71 or '72
and of course the Woodstock set is just phenomenal

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 09:25 PM
Woodstock set is great I like some of his live DVDs hes released lately and studio wise Brothers is a good album

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 09:32 PM
The current tour would be a perfect one for Santana to put down on disc. The band he has now really cook!!!

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 10:06 PM
Pass on Sacred Fire from the mid 1990s. The synthisizer sound on classic tunes will make you want to throw the disc like a frisbee. Thank goodness he dropped most of that on the old tunes.

For me, the bonus disc on Santana III is THE first place to go for live Santana. Unfortunately, it meant buying that album for the third time for me, but it was worth just to hear a full set from the original lineup + Neal Schon.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 08:07 AM
Another vote for Lotus One of the greatest live albums ever by anyone.

As hot as the Woodstock performance and the Fillmore West are, there is an extra dimension to Carlos' playing on Lotus. I don't think he's ever played better, before or since. You still get early favorites like Black Magic Woman, but you also get extended jazzy jams like Every Step of the Way and the previously mentioned Incident at Neshabur, which clocks in at 16 minutes!

I'd pay good money for a quality soundboard recording from the Caravanserai tour. The only problem with Lotus is that Neal Schon and Gregg Rolie aren't on it.

 
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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 09:54 AM
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The second disc of the Santana III Legacy Edition is my favorite live disc from the band.


It's awesome! For me the best live Santana. I'd also recommend Lotus, Fillmore '68 and their set from Woodstock on the Legacy Edition of Santana. Moonflower has it's moments but for me it's Santana past their best, they'd lost the ingredient that made them truely great.

Nobody's mentioned Carlos Santana and Buddy Miles Live. Aside from Evil Ways it's not exactly the standard Santana set list and the 25 minute jam that used to take up the whole of side two may not be to everyone's taste, but I think it's great.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 11:20 AM
i love moonflower

 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 11:32 AM
Disc II of Santana III legacy edition spinning now, "Lotus" on deck . . .

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Nobody's mentioned Carlos Santana and Buddy Miles Live. Aside from Evil Ways it's not exactly the standard Santana set list and the 25 minute jam that used to take up the whole of side two may not be to everyone's taste, but I think it's great.


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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 09:10 PM
Fillmore 68 is incredible......you would love it. It is a part of my collection.
 

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  posted on 4/15/2008 at 11:28 PM
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Moonflower, which contains some studio tracks, has many live performances on it. This is one of my all time favorite albums.


Moonflower is also one of my favorites. I haven't heard Lotus for a long time but I think Moonflower (1974) catches Carlos and that version of the band at their peak. There are great versions of Soul Sacrifice, Black Magic Woman/GQ, Dance Sister Dance and Europa. Carlos is on fire and so is Chester T. on keyboards. The studio stuff is also very good.

 
 


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