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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 10:55 AM
I cannot get enough of their studio releases. This is one band for me anyhow, that what they did in the studio is way better, than the live releases I've heard.

Big fan of what Knopfler is doing now too, but it just ain't the same as Dire Straits.

"girl it looked so pretty to me, like it always did. Like a spanish city to me, when we were kids..."

Great Sunday morning band.

 
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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 11:04 AM
Great band. Everyone talks about Brothers in Arms, but I think there is a lot of fluff on that album. Their first album is where it's at for me, couldn't believe how great it was when I first heard it - "Water of Love," "Southbound Again," "Setting Me Up," all fantastic.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 11:35 AM
love them -filled the void for me after the brothers disbanded and Lowell George died.

Brothers in arms was my first CD purchased but I had already bought it on vinyl and owned everything else too.. In retrospect BIA is a de -briefing of their worrld wide tour that lasted a couple of years. Very commercially successful group. All of their cds are worth owning.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 12:02 PM
Communique is my favorite and has been for years. I love the Dylan recordings with Knopfler as well...

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 12:16 PM
I have always thought that Mark Knopfler was underrated as a guitarist. Like Dire Straits a lot.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 12:30 PM
Dire Straights, I feel has always been very under rated.Like all of the "great bands" what you hear on the radio is only the tip of their "iceburg" Too bad radio stations don't let the listeners pick the songs....I'll leave the rest of this one on the classic non- rock thread.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 12:39 PM
Not sure about under-rated, he is after all #27 on Rolling Stones top 100 guitaritsts. But I agree; he doesn't generally get the recognition - especially here in the US - that he might otherwise deserve.

What he isn't as appreciated for is his song writing. Almost all of the DS stuff was his, and since going solo has about 6 releases in the last 10-12 years with all new material. For someone hitting 60, he's still putting out new work on a regular basis, almost all of which is lyrically interesting and evocative.

He'll be touring the US this summer - the European leg just kicked off.

His management decided to do a fan pre-sale of tickets for the tour, and it has been the best I've ever been part of. They avoided TicketMaster, which in itself was a welcome relief. They ran everything through their store, securing the first 10-15 rows, center section in each venue for their fans. I got 2nd row for both Chicago and Newark, logging in and checking out out within 1-2 minutes for each purchase. I've never seen a pre-sale work so well.

Anyway, here's his dates for this summer. There's probably one or two more dates to be added, as Nashville will certainly be a stop (July 28?).

June 24, Red Rocks Amphitheatre Morrison, CO
June 25, Abravanel Hall Salt Lake City, UT
June 26, The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Las Vegas, NV
June 27, Greek Theatre Los Angeles, CA
June 28, The Greek Theatre Berkeley, CA
June 29, Britt Pavilion Jacksonville, OR
July 1, Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR
July 2, Chateau Ste. Michelle Winery Woodinville, WA
July 3, Orpheum Theatre Vancouver, BC
July 4, Prospera Place Kelowna, BC
July 5, Jack Singer Concert Hall Calgary, AB
July 7, Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium Edmonton, AB
July 8, Sid Buckwold Theatre Saskatoon, SK
July 9, Conexus Centre of the Arts Regina, SK
July 11, Centennial Concert Hall Winnipeg, MB
July 12, Orpheum Theatre Minneapolis, MN
July 13, Chicago Theatre Chicago, IL
July 17, Molson Amphitheatre Toronto, ON
July 18, National Arts Centre Ottawa, ON
July 19, Bank of America Pavilion Boston, MA
July 22, The Filene Center Vienna, VA
July 23, Rumsey Playfield New York, NY
July 25, New Jersey Performing Arts Center (Prudential Hall) Newark, NJ
July 26, Mann Center for the Performing Arts Philadelphia, PA
July 27, Ovens Auditorium Charlotte, NC
July 29, Chastain Park Amphitheatre Atlanta, GA
July 30, Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, FL
July 31, Fillmore Miami Beach @ Jackie Gleason Miami Beach, FL

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 12:52 PM
love the first album
 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 05:59 PM
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Not sure about under-rated, he is after all #27 on Rolling Stones top 100 guitaritsts. But I agree; he doesn't generally get the recognition - especially here in the US - that he might otherwise deserve.

What he isn't as appreciated for is his song writing. Almost all of the DS stuff was his, and since going solo has about 6 releases in the last 10-12 years with all new material. For someone hitting 60, he's still putting out new work on a regular basis, almost all of which is lyrically interesting and evocative.

He'll be touring the US this summer - the European leg just kicked off.

His management decided to do a fan pre-sale of tickets for the tour, and it has been the best I've ever been part of. They avoided TicketMaster, which in itself was a welcome relief. They ran everything through their store, securing the first 10-15 rows, center section in each venue for their fans. I got 2nd row for both Chicago and Newark, logging in and checking out out within 1-2 minutes for each purchase. I've never seen a pre-sale work so well.

Anyway, here's his dates for this summer. There's probably one or two more dates to be added, as Nashville will certainly be a stop (July 28?).

June 24, Red Rocks Amphitheatre Morrison, CO
June 25, Abravanel Hall Salt Lake City, UT
June 26, The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Las Vegas, NV
June 27, Greek Theatre Los Angeles, CA
June 28, The Greek Theatre Berkeley, CA
June 29, Britt Pavilion Jacksonville, OR
July 1, Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall Portland, OR
July 2, Chateau Ste. Michelle Winery Woodinville, WA
July 3, Orpheum Theatre Vancouver, BC
July 4, Prospera Place Kelowna, BC
July 5, Jack Singer Concert Hall Calgary, AB
July 7, Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium Edmonton, AB
July 8, Sid Buckwold Theatre Saskatoon, SK
July 9, Conexus Centre of the Arts Regina, SK
July 11, Centennial Concert Hall Winnipeg, MB
July 12, Orpheum Theatre Minneapolis, MN
July 13, Chicago Theatre Chicago, IL
July 17, Molson Amphitheatre Toronto, ON
July 18, National Arts Centre Ottawa, ON
July 19, Bank of America Pavilion Boston, MA
July 22, The Filene Center Vienna, VA
July 23, Rumsey Playfield New York, NY
July 25, New Jersey Performing Arts Center (Prudential Hall) Newark, NJ
July 26, Mann Center for the Performing Arts Philadelphia, PA
July 27, Ovens Auditorium Charlotte, NC
July 29, Chastain Park Amphitheatre Atlanta, GA
July 30, Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, FL
July 31, Fillmore Miami Beach @ Jackie Gleason Miami Beach, FL




I guess that recognition was more of the word that I was looking for. Mabye I can catch a FL.show this summer.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 06:17 PM
Listening right now to a fantastic soundboard recording from San Antonio,TX on 8-16-85. The sound quality has to be heard to believed and Mark's playing is off the charts! Looking forward to Boston on 7/19 .
 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 06:48 PM
I think one of the reason Mark doesn't get the love here he deserves is that he's hard to classify. Some of his work has a blues feel, sometimes it's more of a country influence blended with Celtic themes.

But his techique is just so expressive and..... honest. I guess that's the best word I can come up with. As he's gotten older, he's been moving more and more toward less notes and more "feel".

My favorite example of this is a song off his Goldenheart release; "Are We In Trouble Now". It's a slow country-blues love song. From the Night In London video, pay special attention to the the outro solo - the last two minutes. I've heard few musical expressions that were so simple, very so expressive. Part of me wants him to go on and on exploring the theme, but I also realize that it's just perfect the way it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0wkWgNqkWU

And of course, if you need a little reminder of him rocking out - what's better than a little Sultan's to get you going:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2nQZPC2uTs


July can't get here fast enough for me - I'm catching three of his shows: Chicago, Newark, and Charlotte. If you see a dumpy, middle-aged guy rocking and cheering in the second row, it'll probably be me!

 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 08:43 PM
Ive been a fan of mark knofler and dire straights from the beginning.allways thought the first one and one every street were the best.but i also loved All the roads arunning,with emmy lou harris,reminds me if desire by dylan.
 

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  posted on 4/6/2008 at 09:00 PM
Love Sultans of Swing

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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 08:26 AM
Thought this might be a short thread..............

My own humble opinion: first album - brilliant, second album, not near as good but ok, the rest - well it's more of the same really. Great guitarist let down by unimaginative songwriting. Even the great Terry Williams (Man, Rockpile) couldn't drum enthusiam into what became a very pedestrian band.



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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 08:34 AM
one word .... Alchemy

 

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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 08:36 AM
DIRE STRAITS




DIRE STRAITS

ROCKPALAST 1979

DISC ONE:

1. Introduction
2. Down to the waterline
3. Six blade knife
4. Once upon a time in the west
5. Lady writer
6. Single handed sailor
7. Water of love
8. In the gallery
9. Follow me home


DISC TWO:

1. News
2. What's the matter baby
3. Lions
4. Sultans of swing
5. Wild west end
6. Where do you think you're going?
7. Eastbound train
8. Sultans of swing


Studio-L. Cologne, Germany, 16th February 1979.

This soundboard recording has absolute amazing sound!

 

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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 08:38 AM
Communique from top to bottom is probably the best album I've ever heard. Perfect for chillin'.
 

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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 10:25 AM
Juliet
when we made love you used to cry
You said I love you like the stars above Ill love you till I die
Theres a place for us you know the movie song
When you gonna realise it was just that the time was wrong juliet ?
you said "I love you like the stars above, i'll love you till i die"



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Juliet
when we made love you used to cry
You said I love you like the stars above Ill love you till I die
Theres a place for us you know the movie song
When you gonna realise it was just that the time was wrong juliet ?
you said "I love you like the stars above, i'll love you till i die"



i appreciate, i appreciate!


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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 10:51 AM
Alchemy Live


Once upon a time in the West


Expresso love


Romeo & Juliet

Love Over Gold

Private Investigations


Sultans of Swing


Two young lovers


Tunnel of love


Telegraph road (Live 1 of 2)


Telegraph road (Live 2 of 2)


aLCHEMY


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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 05:28 PM
My favorite (and overlooked) Dire Straits song:

Warning lights are flashing down at quality control
Somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
Theres rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
Theres a meeting in the boardroom theyre trying to trace the smell
Theres leaking in the washroom theres a sneak in personnel
Somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
goodness me could this be industrial disease?

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
Theyre refusing to be pacified its him they blame the most
The watchdogs got rabies the foremans got fleas
And everyones concerned about industrial disease
Theres panic on the switchboard tongues are ties in knots
Some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
Some blame the management some the employees
And everybody knows its the industrial disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
Innocence is injured experience just talks
Everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
That these are classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze
On itv and bbc they talk about the curse
Philosophy is useless theology is worse
History boils over theres an economics freeze
Sociologists invent words that mean industrial disease

Doctor parkinson declared Im not surprised to see you here
Youve got smokers cough from smoking, brewers droop from drinking beer
I dont know how you came to get the betty davis knees
But worst of all young man youve got industrial disease
He wrote me a prescription he said you are depressed
But Im glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
Come back and see me later - next patient please
Send in another victim of industrial disease

I go down to speakers corner Im thunderstruck
They got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
Two men say theyre jesus one of them must be wrong
Theres a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
they wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
They wanna have a war to keep their factories
They wanna have a war to stop us buying japanese
They wanna have a war to stop industrial disease
Theyre pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
They wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
They give you rule brittania, gassy beer, page three
Two weeks in espana and sunday striptease
Meanwhile the first jesus says Id cure it soon
Abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons
The other ones on a hunger strike hes dying by degrees
How come jesus gets industrial disease

 

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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 05:52 PM
Mark is an under-rated player!!, and his band sure was a bright spot in the late 70s/early 80s
 

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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 07:07 PM
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"girl it looked so pretty to me, like it always did. Like a spanish city to me, when we were kids..."


One of my favorite songs ever

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Juliet
when we made love you used to cry
You said I love you like the stars above Ill love you till I die
Theres a place for us you know the movie song
When you gonna realise it was just that the time was wrong juliet ?
you said "I love you like the stars above, i'll love you till i die"



i appreciate, i appreciate!



Linnie! Another all time favorite. I've always adored his lyrics and those are possibly my two favorite songs.

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Great guitarist let down by unimaginative songwriting.


Its interesting you say that. I think Making Movies, what both of those songs are from, have some of the better lyrics I've ever heard. I personally really enjoy his songwriting. At least early...I'm not too familiar with brother in arms or any later stuff. Love his stuff with Emmylou too.

 

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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 07:45 PM
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Great guitarist let down by unimaginative songwriting.

Interesting how opinions go. I would claim just the oposite.

Knopfler's a great guitarist, yes. But an even better songwriter. Anyone who can paint the kind of word-pictures he can (on a vast range of subjects) and develop great melodies for those songs and play solos that capture everyone's attention is very rare indeed.

How many out there have authored all the tunes they've played for 20+ years. Its a very small group.

 

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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 08:51 PM
While I enjoy Dire Straights, I prefer Knopfler's solo material. Golden Heart, Sailing to Philadelphia (title song with J.T., Bologna Again, Last Laugh with Van the Man) Rag Pickers Dream, Shan-gri-la (Back to Tupelo and Trawlerman) and his latest Kill to get Crimson. Album after album he doesn't disappoint you, at times his music is ethereal and appeals to all listeners. A couple of years ago I was playing his Shan-gri-la album on my car stereo (a few decibels over the legal level) and was approached by a gentelmen in his 70's, asking me who the artist was and how much he enjoyed the music......I felt honored to inform him of Mr. Knopfler's latest achievement.....and from time to time when I listen to that album I'll thinik of him and our brief meeting in that parking lot and wonder......
 
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