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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 05:31 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzuMCVVKLPk

 
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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 06:33 PM
the tour from hell ... my last were the two albany NY shows from the summer tour of that year. got on the bus in Wembley for Europe 72 - PIGPEN! thankfully they recorded everything..

 

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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 06:35 PM
ya'll heard the song Keller sings about those shows? It's pretty freakin funny. they've got a partial clip of it on youtube when you click over to the above link
 

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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 07:44 PM
This was my last Grateful Dead show. I have to say, I was ashamed to call myself a deadhead after this concert. The news coverage was horrible for the band and all deadheads. The fans in 1995 were the worse I experienced during 9 years of following the Dead.
 

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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 07:46 PM
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This was my last Grateful Dead show. I have to say, I was ashamed to call myself a deadhead after this concert
I don't think a lot of the people involved in some of the crap that went down were actual DeadHeads, anyway the spirit wasn't apparent.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 07:47 PM
I was at Great Woods in 92 for Lolapalooza. Peal Jam was a nobody and the Chilipeppers
were the headliner. The fence in the lawn was taken down and about 30 bonfires started in the lawn section.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2008 at 08:11 PM
As a Deadhead I object to the title of this thread. The Youtube video is titled "Gatecrashers - Deer Creek '95." The real Deadheads were already inside "having fun" by listening and dancing to the band with the tickets most had purchased months before the show.

Look closely at the crowd surging up the hill and over the fence. See much tie-dye in that crowd? Most likely this was a mob of locals and "tour rats" who couldn't get in the sold out venue without tickets. Walking through "Shakedown Street" in the lot before the show it was evident that there were far more people present than would ever fit into the venue itself. I had never before seen so many people begging for a "miracle" ticket!

Please do not demean us by referring to these gatecrashing wanna-be's as Deadheads. The name has a much deeper meaning for those of us who truly cherished The Grateful Dead.

I was there that day along with my ex-wife and host of close friends. It was our last Grateful Dead show but of course we did not know that at the time. Our group was gathered on the lawn when we felt the surge squeezing us tightly together as Bobby sang Desolation Row. The crowd inside began chanting "Gatecrashers suck!" as the horde thickened. The media later reported the roar from the crowd as "encouraging the gatecrashers to tear down the fences." Not true by any means. Myself along with every true Deadhead we encountered after this incident were appalled with what just went down. One could sense the end was near and that magical bus we were all riding for so many years had done broke down.




 

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  posted on 4/2/2008 at 09:05 AM
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Please do not demean us by referring to these gatecrashing wanna-be's as Deadheads. The name has a much deeper meaning for those of us who truly cherished The Grateful Dead.
Well said, Tom - thank you!

 

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  posted on 4/2/2008 at 09:44 AM
I saw them twice in the 90's and in general, the crowd was fine, but the riff raff element was an obvious part of it. Young, stumblebum, street people, filthy and sad looking. It made me wonder if they would turn around later in life, or be a blight on society being, non self sufficient. Sitting next to me at one of those shows was Ecstacy fueled zombie woman, young. I mean, if you can't buy a ticket, what else can't you buy? That is why I probably never will go to a Ratdog show......

 

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  posted on 4/2/2008 at 09:54 AM
what purpose does showing a tape like that prove? I been to nearly 50 Dead shows from 68-95 and I have to tell you that nearly EVERYONE at a Dead show is your FRIEND, they are they were most intelligent, informed, Deadicated audiences ever.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2008 at 10:30 AM
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I saw them twice in the 90's and in general, the crowd was fine, but the riff raff element was an obvious part of it. Young, stumblebum, street people, filthy and sad looking. It made me wonder if they would turn around later in life, or be a blight on society being, non self sufficient. Sitting next to me at one of those shows was Ecstacy fueled zombie woman, young. I mean, if you can't buy a ticket, what else can't you buy? That is why I probably never will go to a Ratdog show......


I guess if I took that attitude as well I would have to cancel my trip to Wanee or any other ABB concert for that matter. Last year we saw our fair share of "wookies" roaming around in about the same condition. But I was observant enough to see that the vast majority of ABB fans (especially the HTW folks) are kind, caring, & wonderful productive people. It would be just plain wrong to judge these folks based on the lowest form of behavior I observed at last year's festival.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2008 at 10:55 AM
Deer Creek was partly to blame. Not enough security and they were charging $10 a car load. They were more people outside the venue than in. I heard that there was a guy that incited it by trying to make a run for the fence. The cops let the dogs out on him and it incited the crowd. They started throwing bottles and then someone said "they can't stop us all", and then it was on.

I am sure that mob mentallity took over and people that probly would have never done something like that got caught up in it. There were police helicopters flying overhead and they broke out the tear gas as well to disperse the crowd. There was a huge influx of people into the lawn and yes there were people on the inside helping people get over the fence and tear it down. This was the beginning of the end and sadly enough my last dead show.

I do feel that the Allmans represent many of the ideals that the dead carried during those years. The Ratdog/ABB shows are going to be the closest thing to an old school Dead show that you are going to find. 12 dates this summer, should be fun! Who knows, maybe they can make it to Deer Creek one more time?

 
 


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