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  posted on 3/29/2008 at 08:57 PM
I was wondering, if Dickey wasn't already in the band, would it have ended with Duane's untimely death? Dickey seemed to be the bridge between the early years and the most recent
ABB era. I'd like to hear some other people's take on this. I mentioned elsewhere about getting the OHNE Filter German TV show on DVD, and Dickey seemed to be the main focal point of the
band on that show. Warren also kills on Liz Reed, Gambler's Roll, and Whipping Post also.

 
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  posted on 3/29/2008 at 09:00 PM
I can't imagine what would have happened without Dickey. It is understandable that Gregg had lost his way and his brother. The band lost a brother, but Gregg lost a brother times 2. INMHO Dickey somehow reached down and pulled out some great stuff from deep in his soul, which is what I believe Duane would have wished for.

 

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  posted on 3/29/2008 at 09:11 PM
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Dickey somehow reached down and pulled out some great stuff from deep in his soul, which is what I believe Duane would have wished for.

 

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Well 30 years of heart and soul,lord we took it further than rock and roll.
We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
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  posted on 3/29/2008 at 09:21 PM
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Dickey somehow reached down and pulled out some great stuff from deep in his soul, which is what I believe Duane would have wished for.



Apparently we feel the same about music as we do about baseball!

 

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  posted on 3/29/2008 at 09:56 PM
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Dickey somehow reached down and pulled out some great stuff from deep in his soul, which is what I believe Duane would have wished for.



Apparently we feel the same about music as we do about baseball!
I certainly do know how I feel about Dickey Betts and his Place with the ABB.

 

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Well 30 years of heart and soul,lord we took it further than rock and roll.
We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
Brother against brother....

 

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  posted on 3/30/2008 at 06:01 PM
No one knows where or how the Band would have evolved had Duane lived. He was the leader and had the direction for all brothers. Duane had the fire in the belly, when his flame went out.. it was successfully passed to Berry and Dickey, and then the light went out again with the passing of Berry. Dickey took charge not in a leadership way, but in a way that the music would get out there. Lets face it , they all had their demons with drink and drugs , frankly they were no different than alot of the bands at that time.. The BIG difference is their sound, tone, Blues, Jazzy, rock and all with a splash of country too.. Dickey was very focused or so it seemed to me. He did help Gregg in those days.. I think they all helped each other . Time and alcohol and drugs can change people ..harden then in ways that are not approachable.

Dickey's place in the ABB will always be there... I have seen the ABB since Dickey has left, and there is a void for me... This post is not about who is better now and who plays better guitar. It's about the absence of an original brother.. and what he brought to the table...I miss him terribly in the band. I went to Beacon last year and really honestly for me I came away so unsatisfied with the way things are today... I'm not saying they are not good.... just not the GOOD I am looking for.

I will wait for the day of a possible reunion ... really I'm not sure it's about whether or not Butch , Jaimoe , or Gregg want him , I'm really not sure Dickey wants to be back in there. Time will tell.

I love the ABB and certainly Love DB & GS. I have supported their decision for years and have seem them separately. I'm getting tired of this and they need to come together again if only for one appearance... After all , it is my Dream...just mo..

 

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  posted on 3/30/2008 at 06:45 PM
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I have seen the ABB since Dickey has left, and there is a void for me..
I hear you loud and clear Rainy.
Even in the worst of times with this band in the '70's and '80's,with Gregg so messed up he couldn't stand up,I never felt as empty as the last time I saw them without Dickey.

 

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Well 30 years of heart and soul,lord we took it further than rock and roll.
We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
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  posted on 3/30/2008 at 07:29 PM
Thanks FanFrom-71...

 

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  posted on 3/30/2008 at 07:31 PM
Great post Rainy!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 3/31/2008 at 07:51 AM
Thanks Danny

 

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  posted on 3/31/2008 at 08:14 AM
Ever wonder "what if"? What if Gregg took longer to recover then expected and Dickey came back in the meantime. How would that work out musically. I know this is next to impossible, but stranger things have happened. Hey, Cream reformed. I love the new version of the band, but I still miss the country and western swing influence that Dickey brought to the table.

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  posted on 4/7/2008 at 11:55 PM
I am just so happy to see Dickey Betts and great southern that I dont think about the allman unless they are in town.of course greg is the greatest singer(and trucks is awesome as is haynes)but Dickey plays the real Allman style but like I said I am just blessed to go see betts.
 

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  posted on 4/8/2008 at 03:39 PM
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I am just so happy to see Dickey Betts and great southern that I dont think about the allman unless they are in town.of course greg is the greatest singer(and trucks is awesome as is haynes)but Dickey plays the real Allman style but like I said I am just blessed to go see betts.


That's kind of how I feel about it too -- being able to see Dickey closeup in these smaller venues is the bomb -- obviously it would still be far preferable to still see him in the ABB, but Warren and Derek have carried the torch well -- it just does kind of seem too bad that the guys felt that Dickey's presence was preventing them from getting the sound they were after -- if there's one musician who loves to leave no stone unturned in the playing of music & is open to all ideas, it's Dickey -- personally have always felt that setlist issues probably played into it too -- oh well!

 

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  posted on 4/10/2008 at 01:53 PM
I would love to see Dickey back in his rightful place with the ABB if for only one more tour...they need to bury the hatchet and try to work things out before it is too late...they aren't getting any younger and neither are we! No offense to Derek, he is a great player and has made his mark with the brothers but Dickey just has that sound and fire that is currently missing from the current lineup IMHO....B

 

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  posted on 4/10/2008 at 01:57 PM
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No one knows where or how the Band would have evolved had Duane lived. He was the leader and had the direction for all brothers. Duane had the fire in the belly, when his flame went out.. it was successfully passed to Berry and Dickey, and then the light went out again with the passing of Berry. Dickey took charge not in a leadership way, but in a way that the music would get out there. Lets face it , they all had their demons with drink and drugs , frankly they were no different than alot of the bands at that time.. The BIG difference is their sound, tone, Blues, Jazzy, rock and all with a splash of country too.. Dickey was very focused or so it seemed to me. He did help Gregg in those days.. I think they all helped each other . Time and alcohol and drugs can change people ..harden then in ways that are not approachable.

Dickey's place in the ABB will always be there... I have seen the ABB since Dickey has left, and there is a void for me... This post is not about who is better now and who plays better guitar. It's about the absence of an original brother.. and what he brought to the table...I miss him terribly in the band. I went to Beacon last year and really honestly for me I came away so unsatisfied with the way things are today... I'm not saying they are not good.... just not the GOOD I am looking for.

I will wait for the day of a possible reunion ... really I'm not sure it's about whether or not Butch , Jaimoe , or Gregg want him , I'm really not sure Dickey wants to be back in there. Time will tell.

I love the ABB and certainly Love DB & GS. I have supported their decision for years and have seem them separately. I'm getting tired of this and they need to come together again if only for one appearance... After all , it is my Dream...just mo..


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  posted on 4/10/2008 at 05:27 PM
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  posted on 4/10/2008 at 07:36 PM
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I would love to see Dickey back in his rightful place with the ABB if for only one more tour...they need to bury the hatchet and try to work things out before it is too late...they aren't getting any younger and neither are we! No offense to Derek, he is a great player and has made his mark with the brothers but Dickey just has that sound and fire that is currently missing from the current lineup IMHO....B


HooHead,I too would like to hear Dickey play with the ABB before it's all over. But you seem to be blaming Derek for Dickey's departure. Derek and Dickey were together in the band in '99 and early 2000. Jimmy replaced Dickey for the 2000 summer run but declined to be his permanent. Warren agreed to be a guest replacement for the 2000 Beacon run and decided to stay as that guest shot went very well. So technically it was Warren that replaced Dickey not Derek .............peace....pappy

 

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  posted on 4/11/2008 at 03:37 PM
Shame he was treated the way he was by his so called brothers. He was the strength to keep that band together at that time.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2008 at 10:08 AM
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I would love to see Dickey back in his rightful place with the ABB if for only one more tour...they need to bury the hatchet and try to work things out before it is too late...they aren't getting any younger and neither are we! No offense to Derek, he is a great player and has made his mark with the brothers but Dickey just has that sound and fire that is currently missing from the current lineup IMHO....B


HooHead,I too would like to hear Dickey play with the ABB before it's all over. But you seem to be blaming Derek for Dickey's departure. Derek and Dickey were together in the band in '99 and early 2000. Jimmy replaced Dickey for the 2000 summer run but declined to be his permanent. Warren agreed to be a guest replacement for the 2000 Beacon run and decided to stay as that guest shot went very well. So technically it was Warren that replaced Dickey not Derek .............peace....pappy


Where am I blaming Derek for anything?? Read my post again....you seem to have misread it....Even though Warren left and came back, Warren was a member long before Derek came along so I consider Derek Dickey's replacement....I would rather see Dickey back in the ABB since he is a surviving founding member and wrote most of their hits....peace, B

 

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  posted on 4/12/2008 at 11:21 AM
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I was wondering, if Dickey wasn't already in the band, would it have ended with Duane's untimely death? Dickey seemed to be the bridge between the early years and the most recent
ABB era. I'd like to hear some other people's take on this. I mentioned elsewhere about getting the OHNE Filter German TV show on DVD, and Dickey seemed to be the main focal point of the
band on that show. Warren also kills on Liz Reed, Gambler's Roll, and Whipping Post also.


The answer to your question is NO the band would not have ended when Duane died. Gregg would have wanted to continue on and so would all the others. They might have had many guitarists come and go but they would have went on, because the road goes on forever including whatever happens on it all the way to the grand finale in heaven!

 

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I would love to see Dickey back in his rightful place with the ABB if for only one more tour...they need to bury the hatchet and try to work things out before it is too late...they aren't getting any younger and neither are we! No offense to Derek, he is a great player and has made his mark with the brothers but Dickey just has that sound and fire that is currently missing from the current lineup IMHO....B


HooHead,I too would like to hear Dickey play with the ABB before it's all over. But you seem to be blaming Derek for Dickey's departure. Derek and Dickey were together in the band in '99 and early 2000. Jimmy replaced Dickey for the 2000 summer run but declined to be his permanent. Warren agreed to be a guest replacement for the 2000 Beacon run and decided to stay as that guest shot went very well. So technically it was Warren that replaced Dickey not Derek .............peace....pappy


Where am I blaming Derek for anything?? Read my post again....you seem to have misread it....Even though Warren left and came back, Warren was a member long before Derek came along so I consider Derek Dickey's replacement....I would rather see Dickey back in the ABB since he is a surviving founding member and wrote most of their hits....peace, B


Hoohead, I re-read both our posts and mine came across a little condesending and I apoligize for that. I got the idea from the " No offence to Derek..." line.
The reason I think that Warren not Derek replaced Dickey is Derek and Dickey were together when Dickey was ousted. When Warren came back he mostly played the "Dickey licks" . We just have different opinions.....peace...pappy

 

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I would love to see Dickey back in his rightful place with the ABB if for only one more tour...they need to bury the hatchet and try to work things out before it is too late...they aren't getting any younger and neither are we! No offense to Derek, he is a great player and has made his mark with the brothers but Dickey just has that sound and fire that is currently missing from the current lineup IMHO....B


HooHead,I too would like to hear Dickey play with the ABB before it's all over. But you seem to be blaming Derek for Dickey's departure. Derek and Dickey were together in the band in '99 and early 2000. Jimmy replaced Dickey for the 2000 summer run but declined to be his permanent. Warren agreed to be a guest replacement for the 2000 Beacon run and decided to stay as that guest shot went very well. So technically it was Warren that replaced Dickey not Derek .............peace....pappy


Where am I blaming Derek for anything?? Read my post again....you seem to have misread it....Even though Warren left and came back, Warren was a member long before Derek came along so I consider Derek Dickey's replacement....I would rather see Dickey back in the ABB since he is a surviving founding member and wrote most of their hits....peace, B


Hoohead, I re-read both our posts and mine came across a little condesending and I apoligize for that. I got the idea from the " No offence to Derek..." line.
The reason I think that Warren not Derek replaced Dickey is Derek and Dickey were together when Dickey was ousted. When Warren came back he mostly played the "Dickey licks" . We just have different opinions.....peace...pappy


No harm no foul Pappy, that's what we're here for brother....so we can converse about a great band! Keep a grin.....

 

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  posted on 4/14/2008 at 05:13 PM
How's this for a different perspective. The Beatles "broke up" in 1970?..and John Lennon died in 1980?

Some things, (re-unions) are just never meant to be.

I for one do not believe the ABB will ever "fix" this.

 

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How's this for a different perspective. The Beatles "broke up" in 1970?..and John Lennon died in 1980?

Some things, (re-unions) are just never meant to be.

I for one do not believe the ABB will ever "fix" this.



Me either.... It would be wonderful, I'm not seeing it at all anymore.. The Dream has died for me...

 

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  posted on 4/23/2008 at 03:19 PM
I don't see the remaining 4 getting back together ever again. It could happen but I think there is enough bad blood and stuff that they won't make amends. I know watching them in 99, they looked bored and uninspired, it was like nobody wanted to be there and they were just playing to collect a check. It seemed strange to me at the time and then the fax happened in 2000 and it began to make some sense. I think it was something that needed to happen for everyone's sanity, I have enjoyed the past 7 years of music. Is it different, yes, but it's no longer the Dickey Betts Rythmn and Blues review like the set list slowly became in the mid to late 90's. Dickey is now doing good thing w/ his band and the remaining 3 are happy doing their thing w/ Warren and Derek.
 
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