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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 11:51 AM
After years of avoiding the issue, the lack of an alternative good high-capacity player has forced me into the dark side- an Apple Classic 160GB. I have owned iRivers, Sansa's and lastly a Cowan. All of them let me use the file and folders from my PC's hard drive to organize my music, since you can drag and drop to copy onto the player. Apple has even changed the Ipod's database to prevent using open source operating systems, such as Rockbox.

With Apple I am stuck with evil iTunes. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to maintain the file/folder organization, so I can keep my music accessible the way I like it, instead of how Apple likes it?

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 12:16 PM
Never thought about it.

I just accepted that once I went down the dark path,
it has forever dominated my destiny.

Be interested to see what answers come out.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 08:35 PM
Help bump??

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 08:38 PM
I have an older IPod, and never saw anything other then the way Apple wants it.

if you are concerned about Live recordings kept together, I just created Playlists

 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 09:04 PM
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After years of avoiding the issue, the lack of an alternative good high-capacity player has forced me into the dark side- an Apple Classic 160GB. I have owned iRivers, Sansa's and lastly a Cowan. All of them let me use the file and folders from my PC's hard drive to organize my music, since you can drag and drop to copy onto the player. Apple has even changed the Ipod's database to prevent using open source operating systems, such as Rockbox.

With Apple I am stuck with evil iTunes. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to maintain the file/folder organization, so I can keep my music accessible the way I like it, instead of how Apple likes it?


It is kind of a pain to have to use the itunes interface.

for instance I can write apple lossless right from flac with Roxio Toast 8.
If only I could store it to the ipod directly using the ipod in disc mode if wouldn't have
to do that whole interface import and make a playlist rinky-do.

why they don't make it accessible that way is beyond my understanding.

I wouldn't say Itunes is evil. It works pretty well as designed


 

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 09:14 PM
I have one.


It's frustrating.


ARGGGHHH!!!!


I'd rather wear a cd player in a belt carrier.

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  posted on 3/24/2008 at 10:12 PM
How about using Winamp?
Latest version has an ability to transfer managed tunes to iPod.
Also has an abilty to convert FLAC files directly to mp3 or m4a file and transfer.
I searched for a firmware for iPod which can use FLAC but couldn't find.........

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 06:16 AM
Hi Masahiko, I was not aware that Ipods can be managed with WinAmp, so that was helpful, and I already use Winamp and like it.

From searching forums, there seem to be some issues, however, including problems with artwork and the risk of having everything deleted if you sync with WinAmp and then go back to iTunes. I will check further.

But I think what I want is not possible... for example, I have a "blues" folder, with sub-folders for different artists like Albert Collins, Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, etc. With other players, I can transfer this structure to my player to make navigation easier- for example, I can go directly to Blues, then Muddy Waters without having to scroll past all the other types of music and artists.

Is there a way to do this with the Ipod? Or is the limitation due to Ipod software and file structure?

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 06:31 AM
Hi Alan. If I understand you correctly you want to group your selections by genre, which iTunes already does. You can customize that info also. You can also take it a step further if you like, but it may be quite tedious a task depending how many songs you have. Right click on the top bar. A menu will drop down and choose grouping. Then right click on a song. Choose get info. Click the info tab. Give the group a name that you would like those songs to have. Not sure if this answers your question but I gave it a shot! Good luck.
 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 09:02 AM
which cowan did you have?

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 09:03 AM
I tunes is coming up with a formatt to play music on other systems. it will cost 1.39 a song opposed to the .99 now.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 09:15 AM
bigny might be referring to "itunes plus" which has non-DRM AAC files... AAC files can be played by many software players... but not many pmp's... I believe they run about $1.29 (but also come with twice the bitrate for a higher quality)


I can't imagine them shifting away from AAC... but it blows my mind that more players don't start including support for this codec as it is a darn fine lossy codec (better then mp3 for a given bitrate)

 

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  posted on 3/26/2008 at 09:51 AM
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which cowan did you have?

I have the Cowan iaudio X5 (60gb)... its a great machine, great audio quality, support for flac, lots of goodies,,, just not enough room.

 

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Hi Alan. If I understand you correctly you want to group your selections by genre, which iTunes already does. You can customize that info also. You can also take it a step further if you like, but it may be quite tedious a task depending how many songs you have. Right click on the top bar. A menu will drop down and choose grouping. Then right click on a song. Choose get info. Click the info tab. Give the group a name that you would like those songs to have. Not sure if this answers your question but I gave it a shot! Good luck.


Thanks, sounds promising... I guess what I am after would amount to sub-genres under any particular genre. I have over 11,000 songs, so re-classifying would be a nightmare.

 

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Hi Alan. If I understand you correctly you want to group your selections by genre, which iTunes already does. You can customize that info also. You can also take it a step further if you like, but it may be quite tedious a task depending how many songs you have. Right click on the top bar. A menu will drop down and choose grouping. Then right click on a song. Choose get info. Click the info tab. Give the group a name that you would like those songs to have. Not sure if this answers your question but I gave it a shot! Good luck.


Thanks, sounds promising... I guess what I am after would amount to sub-genres under any particular genre. I have over 11,000 songs, so re-classifying would be a nightmare.


You can give each song a custom genre title, but 11,000 of them? Whoa....

 
 


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