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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 06:45 AM
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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 07:24 AM
Nope. I'd rather go see the ABB on Sundays (or any day for that matter).

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 07:45 AM
To answer the thread question...100% YES, without question.
 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 07:49 AM
Great video. I believe God (or some sort of Supreme Being or Ultimate Energy Force)exists, but I also believe in science and evolution. I don't think the two thoughts are contradictory. And yes, I think there's a lot (most, probably) that had to do with the how the Earth came into being that our tiny, little human minds cannot comprehend, beyond a certain amount of physical science.

I've always believed, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that other life exists somewhere. Whether it is better, smarter, more advanced, benevolant, malignant, stupid, republican, democrat, pro-choice, pro-life, smoking, non-smoking or what---I have no idea....but I would prefer not to be probed (like Cartman).

 
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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 08:33 AM
yes i do, if you asked me 5 year's ago i might have had a differant take on this but i really do
 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 08:51 AM
I beileve very much in God

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 09:10 AM
Yes, I do. and although I am a member of an organized Religion, I understand that obviousley any time human beings involved there is a great potential for mis-management, corruption and cruelty.......... PEACE.......joe
 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 10:45 AM
Do you "believe in" the ABB? Of course you do. The evidence that they exist is easy to find.
Believing in God is equally a no-brainer.

Knowing God. Now there is something to aspire to.

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 10:55 AM
1,000,000% yes! No question, no doubt.

I was meant to be on this earth and that I have a purpose. I beat every conceivable odd out there starting from my mother's third month of pregnancy. Even when the doctors told her I was dead or deformed in utero. I got here a little early (2 months) and a little light (3lbs. 12. oz) and missing a few body parts (an arm, a few fingers, cleft palate, etc.), but I made it. The nurses told my mother when I was a week old, "Mrs. Fanelle, watch out! This baby has a strong heart and a mind of her own"....boy were thery right.

Almost 45 years later I am blessed with four gorgeous and perfectly healthy (with ALL of their body parts!!) children. Lia, 26, Anthony 23, Alexis 12 and Natalie 5. I have a great job that I love, the best family and friends that anyone could ask for and I have love. It doesn't get much better than that.

If God didn't exist, I wouldn't be here, period. No one can tell me that He does not exist.

[Edited on 2/20/2008 by Jacquie]

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:04 AM
Jacquie ..... Love your post... a most inspiring life.... but more importantly full of love..... and the *real belief *.... God Bless.....

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:12 AM
great post Jax..

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:16 AM
Of course I believe in God! Who else could give us someone as beautiful as Jacquie?!

And, I believe He/She has a sense of humor. Take the case in Orland Park . . .

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:18 AM
YES!!!

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:21 AM
Since you exist, and you can see in color, drive, have emotions, etc....you have 2 choices.
Either all this is the culmination of a series of random events, or it is organized by an intelligence. I don't have enough faith to believe it is random. Have you ever listened to Carl Sagan? Once upon a time, there were all these atomic particles, and they organized into hydrogen atoms, and helium atoms, then formed the higher elements, then amino acids, etc. All at random, over time. It just "happened." Sounds goofy to me.

If all was designed by an intellegence, it makes logical sense that this intellegence would communicate with its creation in a way it could comprehend. Thus the Bible. And I don't find conflicts with science either. Compare, "In the beginning, the earth was without form, and void. And darkness was upon the face of the deep. And God said, "Light, be."

Does any of this conflict with the Big Bang theory? Perhaps communicated in simpler language, for the consumption of the not-scientifically-advanced mind....but not in conflict.
How do you say that there was no earth? "Without form, and void?"

Anyway, believing in a Creator seems the only logical way to define my existence, and indeed, all existence.

 
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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:30 AM
Flour, sugar, eggs, oil, vanilla, etc. are all random ingredients...it takes someone mixing them together to turn it all into a cake. I believe in evolution through divine creation and that means, yes, I believe in God.
 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:38 AM
I'll ditto what horacegammet said so well (including the Cartman part ) I do believe in a higher power but can't turn my mind away from science and evolution. I took an anthropology class in college and asked my professor about this conundrum and got a great answer to my questions on God's existence in a scientific world (MUCH TOO large of an answer to post everything here but there are many good books out that deal with this issue).

I also believe in miracles and Jacquie's post perfectly represents why. Thanks for sharing your story, Jacquie. The stength of the human spirit and our resilience in overcoming what seem to be the most unsurmountable obstacles never ceases to amaze and inspire me. And keep me believing in some type of divine power.

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 11:57 AM
I believe in God our Lord and Saviour.

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 12:08 PM
Science vs religion is an old yet fascinating argument. As I've gotten older, and a bit wiser, I have dismissed the idea of God as an old man dressed in white,etc. I consider myself Cathoic but I think my ideas of what God is differ from other Catholics. All organized religions try to answer three basic questions. Where do we come from? What do we do with the lives we have? What happens to us after we die? Catholicism answers these questions for me. As to what is God, I refer to the concept of orgiinal sin. While I don't buy into the Old Testament story of Adam and Eve I think the story illustrates the imperfection of man. That is, we are limited in what we can experience and understand. Over the centuries, man has attempted to make sense of God by attributing human qualities to God. But these are man's attempts to understand God and since man is flawed man can't understand the true nature of God. Whatever God really is, it is beyond my capacity to understand. That being said, I believe in God and believe he is merciful. I also believe that any individual who or group (Catholics included) that thinks only they understand God is mistaken.

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 12:09 PM
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Since you exist, and you can see in color, drive, have emotions, etc....you have 2 choices.
Either all this is the culmination of a series of random events, or it is organized by an intelligence. I don't have enough faith to believe it is random. Have you ever listened to Carl Sagan? Once upon a time, there were all these atomic particles, and they organized into hydrogen atoms, and helium atoms, then formed the higher elements, then amino acids, etc. All at random, over time. It just "happened." Sounds goofy to me.

If all was designed by an intellegence, it makes logical sense that this intellegence would communicate with its creation in a way it could comprehend. Thus the Bible. And I don't find conflicts with science either. Compare, "In the beginning, the earth was without form, and void. And darkness was upon the face of the deep. And God said, "Light, be."

Does any of this conflict with the Big Bang theory? Perhaps communicated in simpler language, for the consumption of the not-scientifically-advanced mind....but not in conflict.
How do you say that there was no earth? "Without form, and void?"

Anyway, believing in a Creator seems the only logical way to define my existence, and indeed, all existence.



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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 12:14 PM
The video is fascinating and isn't even about this discussion....

I believe in the non-intervening God with a bit of a twisted sense of humor.

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 01:39 PM
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This video is quite amazing...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7RBQi63T1Z4

or do you believe in evolution ???




why is there an "OR" here?
can't i belive in BOTH?

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 03:05 PM
Am I missing something here?

Can someone please explain the segment of video that occurs between 1:30 and about 1:54?

Is that a low point in human evolution?

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 03:12 PM
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Am I missing something here?

Can someone please explain the segment of video that occurs between 1:30 and about 1:54?

Is that a low point in human evolution?
LMAO! Just went back and watched the clip to that point and I'd say yep - something like that.

 

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Am I missing something here?

Can someone please explain the segment of video that occurs between 1:30 and about 1:54?

Is that a low point in human evolution?
LMAO! Just went back and watched the clip to that point and I'd say yep - something like that.


Or maybe that was thrown in there to refute the concept of "intelligent design."

 

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  posted on 2/20/2008 at 04:17 PM
Okay, I just paid a little closer attention to the narrative just before and after our "air drumming" friend. It's a joke on the part of the narrator or whoever put the clip together.

I actually thought for a second that some dweeb had figured out a way to hack the clip or something . . .

 

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