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  posted on 2/5/2008 at 09:57 PM
I would like to expand my Dead CD collection and am looking for some recommendations from the fine folks who frequent this forum.

I'm just looking at "official" releases at this time, including the Dick's Picks series.

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  posted on 2/5/2008 at 10:03 PM
Dick's 4 and 8 (Feb and May 1970) present the Dead at their peak in my opinion. 22 is a good one if you're into the acid test blazing fury side of the Dead (Feb 1968), and 19 is an excellent view of the more mature jazz-fusion GD (Oct 1973). After 73 I just can't really find anything I like. But there are LOTS of opinions on the Dead, so take this for what it's worth.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2008 at 10:07 PM
Europe 72
Live Dead
Skull and Roses
American Beauty
Workingman's Dead
Ladies and Gentlemen...the Grateful Dead at Fillmore East April '71

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 12:06 AM
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Europe 72
Live Dead
Skull and Roses
American Beauty
Workingman's Dead
Ladies and Gentlemen...the Grateful Dead at Fillmore East April '71


these plus:
studio:
blues for allah
wake of the flood

live:
truckin up to buffalo
closing of winterland
rockin the rhein

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 01:25 AM
I have the DVD-audio 5.1 surround mixes (done by Mickey Hart) of American Beauty and Working Man's Dead.

Europe 72 on HDCD, and Mars Hotel on vinyl.

that will do for me.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 03:59 AM
I'd definitely go with Ladies and Gentlemen...the Grateful Dead at Fillmore East April '71 as a starter, I think you'll find few will dispute that.

Of the other archive releases, Rockin The Rhein and Closing Of Winterland are both great. I'm also very fond of Fillmore East 2-11-69 (a very compact version of 69 Dead because they were opening for Janis) and Terrapin Limited (easily the best from their later years as far as I'm concerned, but expensive)

Of the Dix Pix I know, I often go back to 10 (12/29/77), 13 (5/6/81), 15 (9/3/77), 19 (10/19/73) and 28 (2/26 & 2/28/73).

I'd also recommend Volume 1, No. 1 of their new series, Road Trips, from Fall 79. Possibly controversial, as a lot of Dead Heads don't like the fact it comes from a number of different shows and doesn't follow the normal show format, but it is consistently interesting.

Offical albums; Anthem of the Sun, Workingman's Dead, Blues For Allah, Reckoning for me.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 07:17 AM
Dick's Pick 18..Dane County Coliseum 2/3/78, and University of N. Iowa 2/5/78.. Killer Scarlett>Fire, and Estimated> Eyes..Late 70's is my favorite era..Well, the 60's were pretty damn good too..

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 07:18 AM
The new road trips cds are good. Tunes from different shows.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 09:05 AM
save your money and just buy some of these guys

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 09:13 AM
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Of the Dix Pix I know, I often go back to 10 (12/29/77), 13 (5/6/81), 15 (9/3/77), 19 (10/19/73) and 28 (2/26 & 2/28/73).


Second the Dick's 10, 13, & 15. I haven't heard 19 & 28 yet, but I'm basking in the mescaline awesomeness of my recently downloaded #25. Just downloaded #36 this week too, and it's a fantastic '72 show.

Gotta throw Dick's 2 on the pile too. I vividly remember mail ordering it in High School along with Dick's 1. I put the disc on and fell asleep. I woke up in the middle of the Dark Star to the Feelin' Groovy Jam and it changed my life. Just sat there in the darkness in complete awe.

A "No" vote for me on the Road Trips concept. Those bastards are killing me with those tempting limited availibility Bonus Discs. That's just not fair to this collector of whole shows.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 09:25 AM
Englishtown, NJ is a MUST HAVE!

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 10:23 AM
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Those bastards are killing me with those tempting limited availibility Bonus Discs.


Fair point. The Dead have put out some truely excellent music on their bonus discs, which is fine if you keep buying stuff, although having to do that can become a real millstone, but very frustrating if you miss out.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 10:30 AM
I like Hundred Year Hall
 

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Wake of the Flood

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 11:04 AM
A lot of good suggestions already but another couple of live one's:

Without A Net
Dozin' at the Knick

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 01:24 PM
All good ones so far...
For my part, I've always love Dick's Picks #5, 12/26/79
It's from early in the Brent Mydland era, and features some really nice exploratory jams sandwiched by Uncle John's Band to open the second set and as the encore.

But don't restrict yourself to 'official' releases only. Great sounding recordings from the taper community are as simple as a download these days, and some of my favorite shows are in that category. Try the following dates atone of the live archive sites-
2/14/68
5/9/77
10/8-9/89
6/20/92
and don't forget the Fillmore shows with Duane & Gregg!

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 01:38 PM
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All good ones so far...
For my part, I've always love Dick's Picks #5, 12/26/79
It's from early in the Brent Mydland era, and features some really nice exploratory jams sandwiched by Uncle John's Band to open the second set and as the encore.

But don't restrict yourself to 'official' releases only. Great sounding recordings from the taper community are as simple as a download these days, and some of my favorite shows are in that category. Try the following dates atone of the live archive sites-
2/14/68
5/9/77
10/8-9/89
6/20/92
and don't forget the Fillmore shows with Duane & Gregg!


2/14/68 is a great one!!

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 01:52 PM
I did this write up (on the Philzone) of Dicks Picks 30 and my reliving an old memory this last weekend... I did it initially in installments, I just bunched it togethor here.....

Way back in 1972, I was barely sixteen, a junior in high school, back in north Jersey. My sis had took me to a Grateful Dead show in NYC the fall before at The Felt Forum and I was hooked on the Dead being a fun show and amazing music.... so me and a buddy saw an ad for the GD playing in NYC again that March, at the Academy of Music..... playing a few nights in fact. Seems we bought tickets at a mall outlet. I had no idea at the time (just found this out) that the shows sold out in hours. So I guess it was pretty amazing we got tickets.

We told our folks we were doing something, but certainly not taking a bus from NJ to NYC to see the GD.... So the Academy was a funky old music house joint, balconey and all, kind of a smaller place...... We had front balconey, which visually and party wise was the best seats in the house. The atmosphere was hard core hippie renagades, Hells Angel security and all.... I was there the night of March 28 which is also Dicks Picks 30......

The crowd was one of those special crowds, happy, smiling, cool, and there to party with Merry Jerry and the boys..... even though kids, we were too.... a few joints in pockets.... there with our spiritual leader and blazing guitarist...... we knew we were there to see not just any music, but a band capable of setting the roof on fire on a good night... Little did we know it would be a good night...

So I survived 5 years of chemo fight and won. Before and during that fight, when talking about the Dead, I always said the Acadamey of Music show I saw was over the top, another planet stuff..........

So my reward now is a nice Postlady delivered Dicks Picks 30 to my door today. I took care of business all day, savoring the thought of hearing my special show again later this night after ALMOST 36 EFFEN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I warm up by playing Disc 1, which is the Bo Diddley night I wasn't there and getting primed for Disc 2-4 (March 28 in it's entirety) with 27 damn songs! I read the setlist, remember each one, some more than others, but I always said that Not Fade Away, Going Down The Road, BACK to Not Fade Away was something, well, there it is on the setlist....

I'll write more thoughts as I listen to the show, but what a blessed ride, to be able to sit here healthy and relive the best young concert event of my life...... cheers...........

Part of the special side of it all was the wait, of course... the line out front. Shady, long haired, disreputable, and fun loving pirates, every one of us, or so we fancied. The line in front of the old Marquee.... "Howard Stein presents GRATEFUL DEAD" the marquee looked a bit tired, with the neon Academy logo, but it was perfect.... We joked, laughed and people watched the human hippie highway in front of us..... finally allowed in, and we made our way up the stairs to the balcony.... great seats in the about third row front..... looked right down on the stage.... the proverbial Bird's eye view The place qickly smelled of herb, leather, patchoili and whatever exotic herbs and scents waifed bye....

Truckin” open the show with confident vocals, jump right in, driving piano
The mix this night is right on, great middle and vocals, Phil is playing double time progressions in the middle…. Billy and Phil rock solid bottom and beat. They opened with this one and just grabbed the crowd….

Tennessee Jed
We knew this by heart from a bootleg my friend had, an instant classic, even before Europe 72 was released……. My dog he turned to me and said let’s head back to Tennessee, Jed…. Two songs into the show and that balcony was shakin’, I mean literally…. I remember thinking to myself, and then saying to my buddy, “I hope this balcony is bolted down good on the beams”…. It was swaying and shaking in time……

Chinatown Shuffle
Funky one from Pig Pen that I had never heard….
It had him singing about shotguns so it was OK
“If you make a mistake you’re going to have to pay for it twice”

Black Throated Wind
A Bobby solo album preview. Slowed it down with this moody one…. Bob nails it on this version…… “You’ve done better by me than I’ve done by you”

You Win Again: some country honk

Listening so far, I have to say my memory is true…. These cats were tight this night. I’ll be the first to say the band could have great nights, pretty good nights, and occasionally mere human nights, mostly pretty damn good, but listening here, this was indeed a top form show…..

Mr Charlie
This was one of the turn it up points of the show. Mr Pig decided it was time to show his stuff and this was one bad to the bone Mr Charlie….
Go ahead Piggy, load it up with some salt……

Mexicali Blues, some more new material for us hear…..

Brokedown Palace
Stunned cheer erupts at the beginning, wow, what a crowd…… time for a magical little journey with this one…..

Next Time You See Me
Time to get dancing with Pig Pen…… Great chorus with Jerry.
“You Lied Cheated Uh Oh For So Long”
Harp solo time……

Cumberland Blues….. this one is pretty true to Workingmans Dead….. nice

One of the strongest suits of this show is the seemingly endless songlist, many songs. Most done pretty concisely time wise, not much stretched out…. That was one of my favorite things seeing it live, a powerhouse array of favorite songs and new ones…

After a moody Looks Like Rain (Ace got major preview on this show), get this upcoming string: Big Railroad Blues / El Paso / China Cat / Know You Rider / Casey Jones / Playing In The Band / Sugaree……. Holy jeez…….

I really can't convey the spirit of the moment, the feel of that night properly. It was a hitting on all cylinders Dead, a pretty well tuned machine just on the verge of hitting Europe, and honing quite a list of songs in preparation... The crowd was a once in a lifetime crowd.... a raucious and rowdy fun loving east coast bunch that wasn't a bunch of individual clumps of people, it was one big bunch of people all dialed into Jerry and crew....

I have some vivid memories..... I'm trying to catch the song, but Jerry broke a string mid solo and Bobby took over, it was pretty cool....

And during the absolutely stunning China Cat / Rider sequence, during Rider, I remember looking away from the stage, doing a slow panorama look at the crowd, and it was just face after face of large happy smiles and outright grins.... it was the happiest looking crowd I ever saw. There was no one incapable of smiling..... it was contagious, and the band saw to that......
China Cat was a favorite since we knew it from playing Aoxomoxoa vinyl…. And when it transitioned to I Know You Rider the crowd gave a big collective cheer and I was one of them…. The crowd was lit up and roaring by this time, as the tapes attest…. We set the beat with a clap along for Casey Jones before it even began…. The runaway tempo ending with Bobby driving it was new to me at the time and was a crowd stomper.

Playing In The Band was followed by Sugaree. This was new but instantly a crowd winner…. The balcony was doing the shimmy and shake on this one again….. I quit worrying about that by then and just marveled in enjoyment at that wonder of physics, architecture, music, and people that could make a balcony rock and roll……
Followed was The Stranger with Pigpen doing a new to me soulful powerhouse……. Bring us to church is what he did….

It’s hard to explain the crowd and atmosphere by this point in the show, but it was electric…. Everyone hanging on every note and waiting on the next. I remember many times just looking out over that crowd, and it was like the faithful in the pews, and we definitely found redemption…..

The rest of the evenings show had a Sugar Magnolia followed by an almost half hour Other One, the first stretch it out song…… a soulful slow Hurts Me Too and then what always was a memory for me, the Not Fade Away / Goin’ Down The Road / and at the time I remember being shocked at the fade back into Not Fade Away again, that blew my mind, never knew they did that and it seemed spontaneous, Billy driving the beat back one more time…. A rousing One More Saturday Night and it was over……….. looking around at the lights up crowd in awe, just a bunch of smiles and “great show” stuff….. a bunch of ruffians young and older all stumbled out into the middle of the night New York City and we kids somehow found a damn bus back…… eyes glazed and brains forever seared………

You know, I never went to a Dead show after that and expected that again, at least after the next show I saw that year, Roosevelt Stadium that July, when Pigpen was too sick to be there…….. and saw them once in 73, and then 3 more times in later years…. I guess I knew that Academy of Music show could never be topped….. kind of like if you would have saw the Allmans on the night Fillmore east was recorded…. I mean, who would ever go searching for a better ABB show? Same for me….. I knew inside I would never see them more at their prime, or a better intimate venue, or a better crowd, or the stars aligned better…. I was lucky, blind ass luck to get seats to a sold out show and not even know it, and wander into an event of my life…………

You have to thank the Dead for taping that stuff, and giving me the incredible experience of sitting here last night and this morning and reliving it, and realizing, yup, I was right, but you could buy it, play it, say, yeah, good show, but really……..

You Had To Be There

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 01:58 PM
One From the Vault-----nice 1975 set

Two From the Vault------sweet stuff from 68

6-22-1992!!!!

3-1-69

Chicago 1977------Cornell is good but very overrated IMO

Jerry and Sara----1964??

Buckeye Lake 1993---Foolish Heart, Tom Thumb's Blues, Eyes-->Playin-->Uncle John's to start the 2nd set

Any of the shows where Duane played with them

Oh there are a bunch more out there but there are just way too many too list

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 02:00 PM
How could I forget Harpur College 1970.........nice show with acoustic, electric, and NRPS!!!
 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 03:20 PM
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How could I forget Harpur College 1970.........nice show with acoustic, electric, and NRPS!!!


That's Dick's vol. 8, one of the best!!!

 

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  posted on 2/6/2008 at 03:26 PM
ALLLL DP's are very good but, as mentioned, I'd start with #4 (Holy Grail), #8 (Acoustic first set and STUNNING all the way through), #36, #16, #29.

Then go to multi-tracked stuff officially realeased like Steppin'Out With the Grateful Dead - England Europe '72 and Rockin' the Rhein from Germany Europe '72.

From the Vault 1 & 2 are KILLER but 3 is not the best of that series.

The new Road Trips series REALLY rocks and are compilations from a specific tour. Number 1 (released last November) is from the Fall '79 tour. GREAT!!! Number 2 (announced this week and ready for preorder is from the Fall '77 Tour. YeeeeeHaaaaw!!!

I think Workingman's Dead and American Beauty are INCREDIBLE and ESSENTIAL studio works. Also Anthem of the Sun, Aoxoammoxoa, Wake of the Flood, In The Dark and Terrapin Station are must have studio stuff.

These are also DVD"s and both LOADED with INCREDIBLE DEAD. The Closing of Winterland (1978) and The Grateful Dead Movie (1974).

I'd start with this stuff as essential and then come back for more.

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  posted on 2/7/2008 at 11:51 AM
I don't think any of the Studio work is needed. I can't think of any songs that are not much better live. Dick's picks are great, but there are some awesome sounding bootlegs out there too. As an ABB fan, I would reccommend the 3rd set from 6-10-73 with Dickey Betts and of course 2-11-70 with Duane and Greg are extra special. But I would avoid the studio stuff, just becouse once I got some good live shows, it is safe to say I will NEVER play a Dead studio album again. Or if you have alot of ABB live stuff, just ask your self if you listen to (or would rather hear) a 4 minute Whipping Post and shorter Liz Reed off the ABB early studio albums, or off the Filmore album. I don't think I have ever listen to the studio versions of those tunes since I heard the live versions.
 

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  posted on 2/7/2008 at 12:11 PM
europe 72 is live but was an official release--still 1 of the greatest of their work
 

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  posted on 2/7/2008 at 01:12 PM
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I don't think any of the Studio work is needed.

wow..i love American Beauty and Working Man's dead

 

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