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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:03 PM
Anyone here into the classic rock band Journey? Im a die hard Grateful dead and ABB fan but i also like bands like Journey.Anyone here who have seen them live? i have not..But i watched a dvd with them live from 79 and they rock..superb musicians and great singing..

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:08 PM
I have been listening to the first three albums lately. great stuff with that Santana vibe still in the mix.

I love Neil Schon's playing so i even enjoy the commercial stuff but I will admit that after Gregg Rolie left it just wasn't the same for me. When Perry joined, I could deal with it and thought the mix of voices worked well. After Rolie left, it was just the high pitched singing all the time.

Saw them quite a few times with various lineups and always enjoyed the show.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:14 PM
cool man..i have never seen them..songs like Lights,wheel in the sky are very good..Wonder what Steve Perry does now..If he i still in the music buisness..anyway,they where are great band.when did you see them?they became huge in USA? here in europe they never quite make it as big as in america..

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:31 PM
I saw Journey a few times in the 70's and early 80's. The last time I saw them was in '86, I think, and American Idol's Randy Jackson was playing bass with them.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:38 PM

Stevie Perry-Best Female Vocalist, 1978

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:57 PM
Saw Journey on the last tour before Ansley Dunbar left, which I think was also the first tour with Perry.
Right After Infinity came out. Also Foreigner with the original line-up was the co-headliner.
In Pixberg at the old civic arena.

Saw them just a few summers ago. also.

No Steve Perry anymore. He has some health problems and doesn't tour.
But Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain were still there. It's Worth seeing Neal anytime.
I think they last toured with Def Leppard in '06

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 07:58 PM
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Stevie Perry-Best Female Vocalist, 1978


I'll second that.

Her voice is like fingernails on a chalk board.

Even my 15 yr. old agrees.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:04 PM
A great band who can still rock when they want to but they became to consumed with writing top 40 hits. I seen them on the" Escape" tour in 1980 and the last time I seen them was in 2001 on the "Arrival" tour. I kept reading good reviews on their new cd at that time so I decided to try it. "Arrival" is a very good album. The new singer Steve Augeri sounds so much like Steve Perry it's unbelievable. He can nail the old songs live but puts a twist on the songs that he helped write with the band. Watch the Journey 2001 dvd and you will see what I mean. The last that I heard about the band was Steve Augeri had some type of surgery and they replaced him on their last tour.
 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:04 PM

I saw them around 2003, when they were sharing the bill with Peter Frampton. Different singer, but they sounded fine, better than I thought they would...John is right - Neal Schoen had a great night.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:06 PM
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You mention some songs from the "commercial" years of the band but have you ever heard the albums from before Perry was in the band? Someone like yourself who enjoys the GD and the ABB would probably enjoy those three albums quite a bit. The boys left Santana and started Journey and the early material still has some of that Santana vibe but with a stronger hard rock element added. Lots of jamming and great guitar/keyboard work to be heard. They make have lacked a commercial success at that point because of a lack of hits or radio friendly music but it works for me.

When they added Perry into the mix, it definitely got more successful and still maintained some of the elements that I enjoyed in the band. Infinity and Evolution are my favorites after Perry joined and likely because Rolie was still in the band. I think the two voices work well together on most tunes but as Rolie sang less so did my enjoyment I guess.

They were huge at one point and they delivered live every time I saw them and some amazing musicians have gone through the band.

Many people bash them for the high pitched singing which I understand but I think many of those people have never heard the early music or know the history of the musicians who started the band.

The best bonus of Journey at their peak was all the beautiful women at shows. Some bands are just meant for good times and a party like atmosphere at shows. I like a band that knows how to get women there.

Some bands have a 90% male audience which is great musically but I do miss the ladies. A huge crowd of men just never smells that good.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:13 PM
I saw them before Steve and with Steve.

I liked them better before Steve.
There first 2 albums were there best IMO.
With Greg Rollie, Neil and Aynsley, They were a Jammier Band.
And Neil got to stretch out a lot more.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:20 PM
that was actually my first concert ever...back in 1986. funny thing though, Steve Perry told the audience that it'd been too long since they'd been in Buffalo & they'd make sure to come again soon...that was the last time they came! They were good back in their day, but I have't really checked them since they got Steve Perry. They had some good tunes that still sound ok every now & then.

 

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  posted on 1/27/2008 at 08:27 PM
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Neal Schon had a great night.


Neil always has a great night. Reminds me of Warren in that aspect. They are just so consistant and always seem to deliver the goods.

Even my least favorite Journey songs are guarenteed to have a smoking solo.

I have most of his solo albums also and some are awesome. Definitely work checking out.

I got one as a present that really suprised me.

" Neal Schon Solo - Voice

2001 Higher Octave Records Produced by Neal Schon
Grammy Nominated Best Pop Instrumental Album of 2001

Neal Schon - Guitar

Neal Schon is a name synonymous with Rock & Roll. For the last three decades, his guitar playing has generated millions of album sales for two other names also synonymous with Rock & Roll, Journey and Santana. It was only a matter of time until Nealís extraordinary guitar and song-styling virtuosity was unleashed on its own in order to expand itself as its own entity, spaced from the specific confines of a band. Voice is Nealís third such offering.

The melodies in Voice are Nealís, yet not his at all. Voice is a tribute to his peers and the melodies that they have performed, written and affected his life. The ten songs presented on this album have been performed by a diverse set of artists. From Andrea Bocelli to Annie Lennox, from Bryan Adams to Bonnie Raitt, from Leon Russell to Mariah Carey, and have been interpreted by Neal and his guitar to create an exquisitely balanced, emotionally charged instrumental collection."

Songs:
1. Caruso
2. Hero
3. (Everything I Do) I Do It for You
4. Killing Me Softly
5. From This Moment On
6. Why
7. I Can't Make You Love Me
8. Con Te Partiro
9. My Heart Will Go On
10. Song for You

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Even when he plays Mariah Carey, he is good. I laughed the first time I heard the album because of some of the song choices but I suprised myself by playing it often. Guitar work is just so good on it. As always.

Piranha Blues is another good solo effort. much heavier than Voices and covers many elements of his playing.

Schon & Hammer - Here to Stay
Another one I really liked. Everyone has to do at least one album with jan Hammer it seems.

I like the HSAS albums with sammy Hagar also.




 

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  posted on 1/29/2008 at 10:30 PM
I think that band is amazing, I've got everything (and more) that they've ever done, released, not released etc.

The hits are the hits and some of my personal favorites are songs that never made the radio. cool thread.

They got a new young phillipino singer named arnel pineda, they are working on a new album with super-producer Kevin Shirley, I do wish Steve Smith was in the band though.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 02:05 AM
Journey - Feeling That Way

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rc_kDIWcDys

Journey -- 1977 -- Nickel & Dime

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1tYSeyqaJmQ

Journey 1977-- Robert Fleischman--Anytime

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2eQxYpDhWJk

Journey - To Play Some Music (Album History of Journey)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XU-nhw-UMr0

JOURNEY - "Look into the Future" (Audio)

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 02:22 AM
Neal Schon - Killing Me softly (Audio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rCQUgriqgA

Neal Schon - From this moment (Audio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVUQEaKkUfc

Neal Schon and Paul Rodgers - Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppXqq0UJNk

 

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 02:32 AM
Yeah -- really good band. Somewhat underrated musically, IMO, mostly because of the commercial turn their music seemed to take later on. I heard they found their new singer on youtube singing w/a Journey tribute band! Here's hoping they return to a heavier rock sound on the new album...

 

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I think that band is amazing, I've got everything (and more) that they've ever done, released, not released etc.

The hits are the hits and some of my personal favorites are songs that never made the radio. cool thread.

They got a new young phillipino singer named arnel pineda, they are working on a new album with super-producer Kevin Shirley, I do wish Steve Smith was in the band though.


i wish they had kept jeff scott soto (the singer for the most recent tour whos been on hundreds of albums including stuff for yngwie malsteen and the rock star movie soundtrack) he was seriuosly the best thing to happen to journey in a long time and then he left.




anyways journey is a great band with or without perry. anyone who's a big fan of niel schon theres an album from the mid 80's by a band called HSAS. it has neil schon on guitar and sammyhagar on vocals. i can't remember who the other 2 members were but its a good album

 

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 07:19 AM
Neil also did an album with Ian Hammer called Schon and Hammer that was pretty good. It had the radio hit "Lies, No More Lies".
 

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Neil also did an album with Ian Hammer called Schon and Hammer that was pretty good. It had the radio hit "Lies, No More Lies".


Subtitled "349 days left in office"?

 

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I think that band is amazing, I've got everything (and more) that they've ever done, released, not released etc.

The hits are the hits and some of my personal favorites are songs that never made the radio. cool thread.

They got a new young phillipino singer named arnel pineda, they are working on a new album with super-producer Kevin Shirley, I do wish Steve Smith was in the band though.


i wish they had kept jeff scott soto (the singer for the most recent tour whos been on hundreds of albums including stuff for yngwie malsteen and the rock star movie soundtrack) he was seriuosly the best thing to happen to journey in a long time and then he left.



Soto could not handle the gig. He admits it himself. It was either get out or destroy his voice and he has had throat problems in the past so the choice was easy. I like him but he was never a good choice for Journey. He was already playing with Schon so I guess it was natural to give him a shot. it was obvious to me when i first heard he was playing with Journey that his voice wasn't the proper range and he would be straining. Not sure why he and the others couldn't have figured that out right away.

Augeri had the exact same sort of problems and was having a hard time also. it is not easy to cover the range that Perry sang in.

There were HEAVY rumors that they were using samples live and both singers lip-syncing at times. The band contends that is false but admitted that drummer Deen Castronovo
had been singing the lead parts of many songs. For a while, they considered just using Deen as the singer/drummer.

New singer is Arnel Pineda who was indeed found on Youtube. good choice. This guy is the best since Perry for singing Journey. He sounds just like Perry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6HjcCzgCCX0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=88nfiZ-yy5Q

 

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Journey is an American rock band formed in 1973 in San Francisco, California.

The band has gone through several phases since its inception by former members of Santana. The band's greatest commercial success came in the late 1970s through the early 1980s with a series of power ballads and songs such as "Don't Stop Believing", "Any Way You Want It", "Faithfully", "Open Arms", "Separate Ways" and "Wheel in the Sky".

Formation, 1972-1976

Journey was formed in San Francisco in 1971 by manager Herbie Herbert. Originally called the Golden Gate Rhythm Section and intended to serve as a backup group for established Bay Area artists, the band included recent Santana alumni Neal Schon on lead guitar and Gregg Rolie on keyboards and lead vocals. Drummer Prairie Prince of The Tubes, bass player Ross Valory of Frumious Bandersnatch, and rhythm guitarist George Tickner rounded out the group. The band quickly abandoned the original "backup group" concept and developed a distinctive jazz-fusion style. After an unsuccessful radio contest to name the group, a roadie suggested "Journey." The band's first public appearance came at the Winterland Ballroom on New Yearís Eve, 1973. Prairie Prince rejoined The Tubes shortly thereafter, and the band hired British drummer Aynsley Dunbar, who had recently worked with John Lennon and Frank Zappa. On February 5, 1974, the new line-up made their debut at the Great American Music Hall and secured a recording contract with Columbia Records.

Journey released their eponymous first album in 1975, and rhythm guitarist Tickner left the band before they cut their second album, Look into the Future (1976). Neither album sold much more than 100,000 copies, so Schon, Valory, and Dunbar took singing lessons in an attempt to add vocal harmonies to Rolie's lead. The following year's Next contained shorter tracks with more vocals and featured Schon as lead singer on several of the songs.

]New musical direction, 1977-1980
Journey's album sales did not improve and Columbia Records requested that they change their musical style and add a frontman. with whom keyboardist Gregg Rolie could share lead vocal duties. The band hired Robert Fleischman and transitioned to a more popular style, akin to that of Foreigner and Boston. Journey went on tour with Fleischman in 1977 and together the new incarnation of the band wrote the hit "Wheel in the Sky." But fans were lukewarm to the change, and personality differences resulted in Fleischman's being fired within the year.[1]

In the fall of 1977, Journey hired Steve Perry as their new lead singer. Perry added a clean, tenor sound and the band became a true pop act. Their fourth album, Infinity (1978) reached No. 21 on the album charts and gave the band their first RIAA-certified platinum album, "Lights".

Drummer Aynsley Dunbar did not get along with singer Steve Perry and did not approve of the new musical direction. He was fired in 1978 and replaced by Berklee-trained jazz drummer Steve Smith. Perry, Schon, Rolie, Smith, and bass player Ross Valory recorded 1979's Evolution, which gave the band their first Billboard Hot 100 Top 20 single, "Lovin,' Touchin,' Squeezin;'" and 1980's Departure, which reached No. 8 on the album charts and included the top-25 "Any Way You Want It".

Journey's newfound success brought the band an almost entirely new fan base. During the 1980 Departure world tour, the band recorded a live album, Captured, and recorded the soundtrack to the film Dream After Dream while in Japan.
Exhausted from extensive touring, keyboardist Gregg Rolie now left a successful band for the second time in his career. Rolie recommended pianist Jonathan Cain of The Babys as his replacement. With Cain's replacement of Rolie's Hammond B-3 organ with his own synthesizers, the band was poised to redefine rock music for a new decade in which they would achieve their greatest musical success.

Height of popularity, 1981-1983

Journey released their eighth and biggest-selling studio album, Escape, in 1981. The album, which would ultimately sell nine times platinum, went to number one on the album charts that year, and included three top-ten hits: "Who's Crying Now," "Don't Stop Believing," and "Open Arms".

Capitalizing on their success, the band recorded radio commercials for Budweiser and sold rights to their likenesses and music for use in two video games: the Journey arcade game by Bally/Midway and Journey Escape by Data Age for the Atari 2600.
This success was met with piqued criticism. The 1983 Rolling Stone Record Guide gave each of the band's albums only one star, with Dave Marsh writing that "Journey was a dead end for San Francisco area rock." Marsh later would anoint Escape as one of the worst number-one albums of all time.

Journey's next album, 1983's Frontiers, continued their commercial success, reaching No. 2 on the album charts. Four hit singles included "Separate Ways," which reached #8, and "Faithfully," which reached #12. During the subsequent tour, the band contracted with NFL Films to record a video documentary of their life on the road, Frontiers and Beyond.

Break-up, 1984-1994

Lead singer Steve Perry and guitarist Neal Schon both pursued solo projects between 1982 and 1985, and when they returned to Journey to record their 1986 album Raised on Radio, bass player Ross Valory and drummer Steve Smith were fired from the band for musical and professional differences. Studio musicians handled the two vacant slots, including future American Idol judge Randy Jackson and established session player Larrie Londin. The album sold two million copies. A truncated tour followed, which featured Jackson on bass and Mike Baird on drums. Steve Perry left Journey in 1987.

Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain teamed up with Cain's ex-Babys bandmates John Waite and Ricky Phillips, forming Bad English with drummer Deen Castronovo in 1988. Steve Smith started a jazz band, Vital Information, and teamed up with Ross Valory and Gregg Rolie to create The Storm with singer Kevin Chalfant and guitarist Josh Ramos.
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Reunion, 1995-1997

Between 1987 and 1995, Journey released three compilations. In 1993, Kevin Chalfant (of The Storm) performed with members of Journey on a few shows, and Schon, Cain, Valory, Smith and Rolie briefly considered reuniting the band with Chalfant as lead singer. In 1995 Steve Perry agreed to rejoin the band on the condition that they seek new management. Herbie Herbert was fired and The Eagles Manager Irving Azoff retained.

In 1995, Perry, Schon, Cain, Valory, and Smith reunited to record Trial by Fire. Released in 1996, the album included the hit single "When You Love a Woman," which was nominated for a Grammy Award.
Plans for a subsequent tour ended when Perry injured his hip hiking in Hawaii, and could not perform without hip replacement surgery ó which he refused to undergo. In 1998, Schon and Cain decided to seek a new lead singer, at which point drummer Steve Smith left the band as well.

Lead singer replaced, 1998-2006

In 1998, Journey hired drummer Deen Castronovo, Schon's and Cain's Bad English bandmate, and drummer for Hardline, to replace Steve Smith. The lead vocalist position was filled by Steve Augeri, former Tyketto and Tall Stories vocalist. The resemblance of Augeri to Perry caused a major rift among the longtime fans, but most fans reluctantly accepted the change.
In 1998, Journey with Steve Augeri and Deen Castronovo recorded a track for the soundtrack to the movie Armageddon called "Remember Me." The band released their next studio album, Arrival, in Japan in late 2000 and in the United States in 2001. "All the Way" became a minor adult contemporary hit from the album. In 2003, the band released a four-track CD titled "Red 13," with an album cover design chosen through a fan contest. In 2005 the band was inducted into the Hollywood Walk of Fame, embarked on their 30th anniversary tour, and released their twelfth full-length studio album, Generations, in which each band member performed lead vocals on at least one song.

Lead singer replaced again, 2006-Present

In July 2006, Steve Augeri began experiencing problems with his voice caused by a throat infection. The band replaced him with Jeff Scott Soto from Talisman, who was confirmed as the official lead singer in December 2006.[2] On June 12, 2007, Journey announced that Soto was no longer the lead singer, and said that they were looking to move in a new direction.[3]
In December 2007, the band hired Filipino singer Arnel Pineda of the cover band The Zoo. Neal Schon first saw Pineda on YouTube singing covers of Journey songs with Zoo. The band announced that they would be producing a new album with Pineda by the summer of 2008.[4]

Although Pineda was not the first foreign national to become a member of Journey (former drummer Aynsley Dunbar is British) nor even the first non-white (former bass player Randy Jackson is African-American), the transition was difficult for a number of fans who expressed what Marin Independent Journal writer Paul Liberatore called "an undercurrent of racism." Keyboardist Jonathan Cain responded to such sentiments: "We're international now. We're not about one color."[5]


Current members

Jonathan Cain - keyboards, rhythm guitar, backing vocals, lead vocals (1980-1987, 1991, 1995-present)
Deen Castronovo - drums, percussion, backing vocals, lead vocals (1998-present)
Arnel Pineda - lead vocals (2007-present)
Neal Schon - lead & rhythm guitars, backing vocals, lead vocals (1973-1987, 1991, 1995-present)
Ross Valory - bass, backing vocals, lead vocals (1973-1982, 1983-1985, 1995-present)
[edit]Former members
Steve Augeri - lead vocals, occasional rhythm guitar on tour (1998-2006)
Mike Baird - drums, percussion (1986-1987)
Aynsley Dunbar - drums, percussion (1974-1978)
Robert Fleischman - lead vocals (1977)
Bob Glaub - bass (1985)
Tim Gorman - keyboards (1980)
Randy Jackson - bass, backing vocals (1982-1983, 1985-1987)
Larrie Londin - drums, percussion (1985-1986)
Steve Perry - lead vocals (1977-1987, 1991, 1995-1998)
Prairie Prince - drums, percussion (1973-1974)
Gregg Rolie - keyboards, lead vocals, backing vocals (1973-1980)
Steve Smith - drums, percussion, backing vocals (1978-1985, 1995-1998)
Jeff Scott Soto - lead vocals (2006-2007)
George Tickner - rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1973-1975)

 

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 09:09 AM
They have been through two singers since Steve Augeri. They found their latest on youtube.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2008 at 09:38 AM
"The best bonus of Journey at their peak was all the beautiful women at shows. Some bands are just meant for good times and a party like atmosphere at shows. I like a band that knows how to get women there"..................

Don Henley gig in 85' was an attraction as well..........



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Journey's newly redesigned website, http://www.journeymusic.com, will be re-launch on or around January 29. It will feature band history, tour information, photos and a new forum.

Journey is currently working on a new album with legendary producer Kevin Shirley, which they hope to release by spring/summer 2008. Their 2008 world tour begins in Santiago, Chile mid-February. More tour dates will be announced soon.

The Journey Island was built by Industrial-Design.com, Journey's long time web developer and features work by SL builders Farrokh Vavoom, Argus Collingwood, Adrian Harbinger and Jocelyn Sands.

Recent Press Release:

Journey--Neal Schon (guitar), Jonathan Cain (keyboards), Ross Valory (bass), Deen Castronovo (drums)--is proud to introduce fans all over the world to their new lead singer, Arnel Pineda ("pin-eh-da"). He replaces Jeff Scott Soto, who parted ways with the band earlier this year after stepping in for Steve Augeri, who had to leave the band in 2006 for medical reasons.

Arnel hails from Quezon City in the Philippines and has been singing Journey songs--in addition to original material--with his band, The Zoo, for the past couple of years in clubs all over his homeland. Joining the legendary band is a dream come true for him.

"It's so exciting to sing with one of the best bands in the world. It'll be a lot of hard work on my part and I'm actually looking forward to the scrutiny I'll get from the hardcore Journey fans. I know they'll expect me to sound exactly like `the voice` (Steve Perry), but that will never happen. I know there's only one Steve Perry in this world."

When it was time for Journey to look for a new lead singer, the internet came to their rescue. Guitarist Neal Schon wanted someone new to the music business, so he turned to YouTube. After finding Arnel singing "Faithfully," he knew he had found the perfect frontman.

"I was frustrated about not having a singer," explains guitarist Neal Schon, "so I went on YouTube for a couple of days and just sat on it for hours. I was starting to think I was never going to find anybody. But then I found The Zoo and I watched a bunch of different video clips that they had posted. After watching the videos over and over again, I had to walk away from the computer and let what I heard sink in because it sounded too good to be true. I thought, `he can't be that good. But he is that good, he's the real deal and so tremendously talented. Arnel doesn't sound synthetic and he's not emulating anyone. I tried to get a hold of him through YouTube and I finally heard from him that night, but it took some convincing to get him to believe that it really was me and not an imposter."

Arnel Pineda picks up the story: "My friend Noel picked up the message on YouTube and told me it was from Neal. I thought it was a hoax so I ignored it. Noel said, `what if it really was Neal and he wanted to offer you the chance of a lifetime?` So I e-mailed Neal back and the rest is history."

"Arnel brings a soulful and passionate voice to Journey," continues keyboardist Jonathan Cain. "His personality is very well-suited to our music. He's a sincere, authentic person with a great smile and a big heart. I think fans are really going to love him. With Arnel's soaring tenor, Journey returns to our heritage sound."

Schon agrees, "We feel reborn. I think there's a lot of chemistry between the five of us. At first we were going to go into the studio and just write 4 songs, but now it's escalated to a lot of great new and diverse material. The stuff sounds tremendous. Everyone's so stoked about it. We feel very fortunate to have found Arnel."

 

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