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  posted on 1/21/2008 at 11:47 PM
Diamond David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen together again after what, 25 years?? I just watched a DVD of a show that was what, 10/3/07, dang, what a show. Dave acts like a dork through much of the show, knowing this is a reunion tour, and that he is now OLD, buuuuuuuut, Eddie Van Halen is BACK, albeit SKIN AND BONES, and GAUNT, Eddie is kicking some major Van Halen guitar ASSS, on the current reuinon tour. The tour is a little of this and than, and it doesn't pack all of the punch of a FULL band reunion, but waht tours as Van Halen RIGHT NOW is pretty dang GOOD. Eddie is still playing like a DEMON. The man is gaunt, SKIN AND BONES but he still plays like a PHENOM. I hope Eddie has finally drowned his demons in this and that but be sure you check him and Dave out on DVD or on tour soon. Regardless of what the band is NOT, the current tour is pretty freaking cool. Thanks Don for the DVD of the current show from this tour. It was pretty cool. And DLR and Eddie both go shirtless. The thing is that both guys are what, in their 40's??? Eddie is emaciated and Dave is an old toned and chest waxed lead singer. What more can the fans expect? Eddie is STILL the whole F'ing band. There could be no tour without Eddie. Thanks Don and thanks to my brother Charlie for digging Van Halen in their prime. I never thought much of the band but OH how Eddie can PLAY!!! Hope Eddie gets his life together.


 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 12:06 AM
As for a shirtless DLR and EVH I only meant that they still try pretty hard to look like rock stars. Trying not to look gay in my own thread!!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 12:13 AM
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The thing is that both guys are what, in their 40's???


Try knocking on their 60's. They started off in 1974-ish. You think they're 8 years old? (they do act like it, so i give you that.)

EVH sounds heads and shoulders above 2004. Otherwise, from what I've heard, he sounds like doo-doo compared to his past. He sounds good, but nowhere close to 1998 or 1995. Not to mention before that. That all being said, I still plan to blow way too much money to see the original 3 play together next month. Can't count on them ever playing together again....or EVH ever playing out again after this tour. So may as well spend the $85 now for 2nd level arena seats.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 01:03 AM
Having caught 2 shows on their fall tour, I must almost completely disagree with your take on the reunion. Yes, it is very cool. But Eddie is by far the weakest link in the program. I didn't hear him play in 04, so I can't comment on that, but his playing was just passable by old VH standards. He wasn't awful, but he was sloppy compared to the precision of old. Alex was steady as ever. Wolfie was solid and sang great harmonies. And DLR was the MVP. Yeah, he was dorky, but he's always been dorky. His antics actually took a back seat to his vocals.
Definitely a great show. I liked it so much I saw it twice. But please don't lead folks to believe that EVH is better than ever, cuz he's not. Not even close.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 01:24 AM
Love this clip

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 03:08 AM
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The thing is that both guys are what, in their 40's???


Try knocking on their 60's. They started off in 1974-ish. You think they're 8 years old? (they do act like it, so i give you that.)

EVH sounds heads and shoulders above 2004. Otherwise, from what I've heard, he sounds like doo-doo compared to his past. He sounds good, but nowhere close to 1998 or 1995. Not to mention before that. That all being said, I still plan to blow way too much money to see the original 3 play together next month. Can't count on them ever playing together again....or EVH ever playing out again after this tour. So may as well spend the $85 now for 2nd level arena seats.


not quite that old. evh and dlr are both between 52-53. they are about the same as age as my dad. alex van halen is 54 and if michael anthony was there he'd be 53. sammy hagar though was the old man of the band he is 60

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 03:10 AM
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Diamond David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen together again after what, 25 years?? I just watched a DVD of a show that was what, 10/3/07, dang, what a show. Dave acts like a dork through much of the show, knowing this is a reunion tour, and that he is now OLD, buuuuuuuut, Eddie Van Halen is BACK, albeit SKIN AND BONES, and GAUNT, Eddie is kicking some major Van Halen guitar ASSS, on the current reuinon tour. The tour is a little of this and than, and it doesn't pack all of the punch of a FULL band reunion, but waht tours as Van Halen RIGHT NOW is pretty dang GOOD. Eddie is still playing like a DEMON. The man is gaunt, SKIN AND BONES but he still plays like a PHENOM. I hope Eddie has finally drowned his demons in this and that but be sure you check him and Dave out on DVD or on tour soon. Regardless of what the band is NOT, the current tour is pretty freaking cool. Thanks Don for the DVD of the current show from this tour. It was pretty cool. And DLR and Eddie both go shirtless. The thing is that both guys are what, in their 40's??? Eddie is emaciated and Dave is an old toned and chest waxed lead singer. What more can the fans expect? Eddie is STILL the whole F'ing band. There could be no tour without Eddie. Thanks Don and thanks to my brother Charlie for digging Van Halen in their prime. I never thought much of the band but OH how Eddie can PLAY!!! Hope Eddie gets his life together.





dlr has said many times this is not a reunion tour but the current lineup of van halen. he is referencing the fact that michael anthony is not on bass

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 06:14 AM
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As for a shirtless DLR and EVH I only meant that they still try pretty hard to look like rock stars. Trying not to look gay in my own thread!!


not that there's anything wrong w/ that

 

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I'm no Van Halen critic and I only saw then once in the early 80's from a nosebleed seat at the old Jacksonville Coliseum, here in Jville, FL. I really don't know why this crowd is so phucking brutal when it comes to critcizing guitarists. If you were hoping to hear the old Van Halen solos and everything, I would say that the dvd that I got was dead on. I really couldn't have hoped for Eddie to make the band sound more like VH. What was obvious though was that David Lee Roth really can't begin to sing as he used to, and he didn't even try to. And I wasn't expecting Eddie to come out trying to better than he did in his YOUTH, or in his PRIME. The fact is, HOWEVER, that Eddie Van Halen is still one of the very best guitarists in THE WORLD. So what if he was better a while back. The dude is still INCREDIBLE. You would think that in his emaciated and super thin state that he might not be able to still play well, but his timing was dead on. I did see at one point though where he looked a bit winded. I mean he tired but what can anyone expect of a guy in his fifties. And I didn't see where he was sloppy at all. As for annoying, that is what I would call Alex's drum solo. It wasn't all that special.

Anyway, the guys still played together quite well even without Micheal Anthony. And NO, I guess you can't call this tour a reunion tour, but it surely IS for DLR who is loving every minute of it. And how DLR deserved to tour again with VH. I just saying the guy has been eating his heart out for the last twenty something years. I really felt sorry for the guy. He really had some embarrassing public moments after VH. Eddie humilated the guy. Everybody always said DLR was so hard to be around, well it looks like Eddie was quite able to be a major pr!ck as well.

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 03:14 PM
I finally gave in and bought a seat for the MSG show in March. If they are not at least very good by my standards I will be very dissapointed. I have seen them twice with Roth in the early eighties, seven times with Hagar, and twice with Charone. The second Roth tour(1984) I still consider one of if not the best hard rock show I have ever seen. Madison Square Garden was absolutely crazy. I know they can't match that. I've seen youtube videos, but the sound and video quality really don't give you a good picture. I just hope it is good as this show will bring me full circle with VH.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 03:22 PM
eddie got his **** together and is kickin ass. let it be. be happy that his life is on the right path.
 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 03:26 PM
Unfortunately, at the final show of the first leg (Las Vegas) Eddie played like **** . Of course, leading to speculation that he'd fallen off the wagon again. Hopefully, with the holiday break, he'll be back in top form.
 

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  posted on 1/22/2008 at 06:11 PM
Or this one, where EVH loses his cool during Jamie's Crying. It does appear to be a soundman/guitar tech issue, but I don't think EVH took things quite in the stride that he should have while onstage. Of course, if he'd go back to playing just a couple or three effects pedals, instead of a humongous pedal-board, he'd probably have fewer technical problems.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gGalV-2pmQc

 

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Or this one, where EVH loses his cool during Jamie's Crying. It does appear to be a soundman/guitar tech issue, but I don't think EVH took things quite in the stride that he should have while onstage. Of course, if he'd go back to playing just a couple or three effects pedals, instead of a humongous pedal-board, he'd probably have fewer technical problems.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gGalV-2pmQc





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  posted on 1/23/2008 at 10:21 AM
There was a lot of "chatter" on vhlinks after this show. Apparently, several people in the know commented that the sound company has been a major issue on this tour, so much so that they dumped them after the first leg and have hired a new company. Also, EVH has lost so much hearing that he moved his rig very close to Alex's drum kit in order to hear and feel the percussion. Also, some fans have commented that Ed is suffering not only hearing loss but is also experiencing vertigo. Who knows? What I do know is at the Vegas show, EVH played very **** ty. I believe they started the second leg last night. I'll have to check the reviews and see what other fans have to say about the performance.
 

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  posted on 1/23/2008 at 10:26 AM
From the below reviews, it would seem the break worked and the boys rocked Oklahoma City:

http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/1-22-08-oklahoma-city-ok-t42273.html

 

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  posted on 1/23/2008 at 10:41 AM
They get rave reviews everywhere which leads me to believe that the reviewers never saw the original act and are swayed by seeing them together. Not that they are bad but not as good as some would lead you to believe.

I have read things about the sound company but the person Eddie is freaking at during the clip is his tech. This type of thing happens at many of the shows. In Montreal, they were swearing and giving the finger all night. sometimes when things are not going well it is easy to blame, guitars, equipment and others.

The VH brothers dropped all the employees that they had on retainer years ago which has lead to working with new people.

The truth is that VH never sounded good live. Countless shows I have seen and always the same story. I always wanted one show where the sound was clear.

The first leg of the tour, they were using out-dated sound system and seemed to be going for the loud glory days. I would prefer less volume and better sound.


 

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They get rave reviews everywhere which leads me to believe that the reviewers never saw the original act and are swayed by seeing them together. Not that they are bad but not as good as some would lead you to believe.

I have read things about the sound company but the person Eddie is freaking at during the clip is his tech. This type of thing happens at many of the shows. In Montreal, they were swearing and giving the finger all night. sometimes when things are not going well it is easy to blame, guitars, equipment and others.

The VH brothers dropped all the employees that they had on retainer years ago which has lead to working with new people.

The truth is that VH never sounded good live. Countless shows I have seen and always the same story. I always wanted one show where the sound was clear.

The first leg of the tour, they were using out-dated sound system and seemed to be going for the loud glory days. I would prefer less volume and better sound.




I agree with your last comment. However, I've seen VH twice (both with Hagar), once in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, NY (famous for horrible sound) and once at the Pepsi Arena in Albany, NY. Both shows were great and sounded surprisingly good (Albany was very good). These are both arenas, by the way. It sounds like the new sound system and company has improved things....at least according to the fan reviews anyway. Glad to hear Ed seems to have his **** back in order. I noticed one fan compared his performance to some from the tour with Cherone back in'98. If true, that's great as Ed was on fire on that tour. Maybe the best he's ever played according to some. Probably because with Cherone, they were able to play some of the old classic stuff Hagar never sang.

 

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You nailed it. People got excited during the tour with Cherone because they were playing some of the older material. Not because it was being played well but because it was being played.

I should have stated my issue with the sound better. I meant during the Roth years. Yes it did improve during Hagar's years but not by much compared to others touring at the same time. They just never spent the money or made sound a major issue. I lost track at how many times I have seen them and it has been better at some shows but always a variation on too loud and too distorted.

Can't tell much from the reviews because people said the shows I saw sounded great and that is just not true. Below average and at those prices there should be some consideration given to quality.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2008 at 11:47 PM
i'm just glad hagar is on his own again. his solo stuff always seemed better to me than the stuff he did in van halen and i hope after the 2004 debacle that he never comes back
 

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You nailed it. People got excited during the tour with Cherone because they were playing some of the older material. Not because it was being played well but because it was being played.

I should have stated my issue with the sound better. I meant during the Roth years. Yes it did improve during Hagar's years but not by much compared to others touring at the same time. They just never spent the money or made sound a major issue. I lost track at how many times I have seen them and it has been better at some shows but always a variation on too loud and too distorted.

Can't tell much from the reviews because people said the shows I saw sounded great and that is just not true. Below average and at those prices there should be some consideration given to quality.


I agree that they always were a bit too loud. I remember the Carrier Dome show being way over the top. Regarding the Cherone tour, the clip from the MTV show from Sydney, Australia sounded very good to me. I thought Gary sounded better than Roth ever could on Unchained and Mean Street...as did the whole band. Something about when Mike, AL and Ed are firing on all cylinders...it's just very powerful, particularly on any of the Fair Warning material.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2008 at 02:23 PM
Charone is a good singer, I liked him when I saw him with Extreme. Actually I saw Extreme open for David Lee Roth solo and Extreme along with Cinderella both blew Roth off the stage. Whoever Roth had trying to play EVH guitar was a total hack. This was after the Steve Vai, Billy Sheehan period. However, I never thought Charone's voice fitted VH. I don't want to call his voice whimpy because I like him on some older Extreme stuff but maybe just a bit too soft of a voice.

I too went twice on that tour just to hear Eddie and the boys play some of the Roth catalog. The first show I saw at MSG was pretty good and it was cool to see Creed before their heads got to big and all the ballad BS. The second show I saw on that tour at Jones Beach was a trainwreck. I am looking forward to seeing a full show of Roth era songs. As long as they execute I will be happy.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2008 at 02:40 PM
You will enjoy it. Great songs that haven't been played by the band for far too long.

That was the part that bugged me about the "Sammy" era. they played the same damn three songs and left all the other older material behind. Why turn your back on your songs and fans? Never made sense to me. It also created the tension and need for a return of the "Roth" era.

 

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You will enjoy it. Great songs that haven't been played by the band for far too long.

That was the part that bugged me about the "Sammy" era. they played the same damn three songs and left all the other older material behind. Why turn your back on your songs and fans? Never made sense to me. It also created the tension and need for a return of the "Roth" era.
thank you, i have said this since sam got in the band. i dont know why ed and al let him get away with it. after all the times i saw the sammy tour's i saw the gary tour 2 time's. better than any sammy show. the m.s.g. show that is. like someone else said. jones beach was a crap. plus eddie wore a yankee jersey.....ugh

 
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