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  posted on 5/22/2003 at 09:53 PM
I just got my first frogwings show and i am really digging it. can anyone give me some good info on this band? I know the lineup and all that but does anyone have any show experiences they can share or any good stories about this project. Thanks Confused
 
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  posted on 5/22/2003 at 10:49 PM
I have 3 Frogwings concerts on CD. From February 1999. All musicians who were in this band are busy in other bands now. I don't dare to hope that Frogwings will get back together soon. bummer !

 

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  posted on 5/22/2003 at 10:51 PM
Everything you need to know is in the show.

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  posted on 5/22/2003 at 11:51 PM
Their album, Croakin' at Toad's, is also excellent.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 12:03 AM
I did happen to catch a Frogwings show at Wetlands in NYC in 1999.
I thought it was really really good - how could it not be with that lineup!
When you think about it The 2000 ABB was most of Frogwings - Butch, Marc, Derek, Oteil and of course Jimmy Herring. Just add Gregg and Jaimoe instead of Kofi and Popper and and there you have it -ABB 2000. Would love to to see another Frogwings tour but with perhaps another singer - a little too much Popper for me last time. This is a great r side-project though that deserves another go-round.

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 09:18 AM
I've recently made a new buddy who is an avid concert goer (Dylan is his main focus), and claims to have been at the Frogwings show where the Croakin' album was recorded . . . and a few years later, he was at the much-lauded Word performance of 6-27-01. Lucky bastid (unless, of course, he's pulling my chain).

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 09:22 AM
I guess if you go to enough concerts, you'll end up being on a live commercial release eventually....

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 09:25 AM
Now that Edwin McCain has gone with an indie label, maybe they could get him back and go on tour sans Johnny "the Ball-Hog" Popper. It was the major label Edwin was with at the time that forced him out of the band (was that about '98??) -- they wouldn't let him record an album on another label or with another band so he bowed out so the band could record and put out an album. I think he was a much better fit for the band than Popper was.

Actually, if Oteil and Jimmy can ever coordinate their schedules, I think ARU will hit the road before Frogwings ever will. Here's hopin'....

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 11:08 AM
Agreed about Popper... When I want Popper, I put on Blues Traveler...

If I DON'T want Popper, I don't want him anywhere... He KILLS "Croakin' @ Toads", as he kills most of everything he does, except Blues Traveler.

I loved the 'wings with McCain...

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 11:16 AM
If anyone has any Frogwings shows with Edwin on them instead of Popper, please let me know. I'd love to hear one. I've got lots to trade. Thanks!

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 12:02 PM
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Now that Edwin McCain has gone with an indie label, maybe they could get him back and go on tour sans Johnny "the Ball-Hog" Popper. It was the major label Edwin was with at the time that forced him out of the band (was that about '98??) -- they wouldn't let him record an album on another label or with another band so he bowed out so the band could record and put out an album.
Edwin was on the ATLANTIC/LAVA label before. He is on ASCAP last I knew now. One of the indie musicians that I manage is also a member of ASCAP.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 12:33 PM
Wow, Pam! You stay pretty busy...daycare, bottled water, band manager....anything else?

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 12:34 PM
Pam - ASCAP isn't a record label. Along with SESAC and BMI, ASCAP is one of the three performance rights organizations. They collect performance royalties for the artist from radio stations, bars and clubs, restaurants, TV stations, etc. Anyone who makes money from the songs has to pay for using the music, and these organizations act as a go-between and collect $$ and pay the artists.

Edwin left Atlantic (or was dropped by Atlantic) and now is with ATC records. In a recent article he even talks about the change:

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/music.html#2

 

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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 06:27 PM
I'd love to hear Frogwings with Edwin as well, I've only heard CROAKIN' AT TOADS and I LOVE IT!!! -- I have plenty to trade, if someone wants. . . I like Popper a lot, but I think my favourite song is probably Kick'n'Bach, which Popper isn't on. I loved that song on Derek's 2nd album, but I like the Frogwings version even more. I wouldn't mind it if the Brothers played that. . .
 

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  posted on 5/24/2003 at 12:20 PM
I love John Popper with frogwings. I think the biggest problem with
getting frogwings is Jimmy's schedule. With the Dead and
Project Z when will he have the time.

Same for ARU. Jimmy wasn't happy with the ARU reunion at
Warren's Christmas Jam, too many guests played. He does
want to play with JUST the ARU but doesn't think it will ever happen.

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  posted on 5/24/2003 at 12:44 PM
It was the last Zambiland Orchestra show that pissed Jimmy off so badly with the special guests. I think at that Christmas Jam that John Popper was the only person to sit in with ARU. At that 2001 Zambiland show about 15-20 guys tried sitting in (uninvited) on Time Is Free. Jimmy unplugged his guitar, packed up, and left the building in the middle of the song. They were supposed to have a full set, but this happened on the fourth or fifth song. Project Z was also supposed to play a full set to close out the night, but obviously with no Jimmy there couldn't be a Project Z. 'Twas a shame too. 10 seconds into the ARU set the magic was obviously back....immediately hit on all cylinders.

After that, Jimmy has repeatedly said he won't do any more ARU reunions at benefits like that. He has said that the only way he'd do ARU again is if a show is solely an ARU show, like on a tour. There were rumblings of a fall ARU tour in the works, but it's looking like either the Dead or P&F are going to do a fall tour. Maybe we can get a November-December mini-tour or something though. With two ARU records coming out, and Jimmy and Oteil both showing a willingness to at least entertain the idea, I think this is the best chance of an ARU tour since the '98 fall run.

 

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