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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 04:48 PM
In January 1973 Pete Townshend organised the comeback of Eric Clapton, which became known as "Eric Clapton's Rainbow Concert." The concert featured musicians Ron Wood, Steve Winwood, Rick Grech, Jim Capaldi, Rebop and Jimmy Karstein.

Anyone know who Jimmy Karstein is? I've never seen or heard of him other than at this concert. Apparently he was a drummer. Anyone know anything about him?

[Edited on 12/6/2007 by BarrySmith]

 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 05:27 PM
From what I gather, he's a drummer.

He has played with Joe Cocker, Leon Russell and JJ Cale
most of his career.

I would venture to guess, it was the Leon Russell connection that
got him the drum chair that night.

Could be wrong too.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 05:48 PM
He was the drummer for Gary Lewis & The Playboys, whose bass player was Carl Radle

[Edited on 12/6/2007 by chiliD]

 
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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 06:05 PM
Anyone see the Jim Capaldi Tribute DVD where Pete Townsend talks about how Jim Capaldi played in the Rainbow Concert, back when they "resurrected Eric Clapton from the dead". Gotta love Pete. Jimmy Karstein was actually the drummer George wanted for the All Things Must Pass sessions. See below-


The seeds of Derek and the Dominos can be found in their involvement with Delaney, Bonnie & Friends of which they were all members, including Duane Allman who had played before Clapton. The members' departures from the group were caused by the constant infighting between Delaney and Bonnie, Whitlock explains:

“ Delaney was a little James Brownish, real hard to work with, him and Bonnie fighting all the time and carrying on. Everyone got disenchanted with the situation.[4] ”

Gordon and Radle left D&B to play on Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs and Englishmen tour with Leon Russell, but Whitlock remained on with the Bramletts for a short time.

Whitlock was looking for a gig, and Steve Cropper suggested he visit Clapton in England; Whitlock would subsequently live in Clapton's house and during that period the two would jam, hang out and write the bulk of the Dominos' catalogue.

Soon after, they called the rest of their former Delaney and Bonnie musicians, Dave Mason, Carl Radle and Jim Gordon and together the quintet became the backing band for George Harrison's album All Things Must Pass.[5]Gordon was not the first choice as drummer, it was Jimmy Karstein, who like Radle, was from Tulsa and also been involved with Russell and Cocker.

The group officially debuted at the Lyceum Theatre in London on June 14, 1970 advertised as "Eric Clapton and Friends". This was Mason's only appearance with the Dominos. The band was unnamed at the time and its final name, Derek and the Dominos, was an accident, by all accounts. Whitlock claims the previous performer, Tony Ashton of Ashton, Gardner and Dyke mispronounced their provisional name of "Eric and the Dynamos" as Derek and the Dominos.[6] However, in Clapton's biography a different story emerges claiming Ashton told Clapton to call the band "Del and the Dominos", Del being his nickname for Clapton. Del and Eric were combined and the final name became "Derek and the Dominos."[7] Either way, the band took up the new name and embarked on a summer tour of small clubs in England where Clapton chose to play anonymously, still weary from the fame and high-profile chaos that he had felt plagued Cream and Blind Faith.[8]

From late August to early October 1970, working at Criteria Studios in Miami under the guidance of Atlantic Records producer Tom Dowd, the band recorded Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, a double album now regarded by many critics as Clapton's masterpiece. Most of the material, including Layla (which soon became an FM radio staple) was inspired by Clapton's unrequited love for Pattie Boyd, who was married to his best friend George Harrison.[9] It was not until several years that Pattie would consent to an affair and later move in with Clapton in 1974 and marry him in 1979. They separated in 1985 when Clapton started a relationship with Yvonne Khan Kelly and they divorced in 1988. Whitlock reminiscing would later say:

“ The basic concept of Derek and the Dominos was that we didn't want any horns, we didn't want no chicks, we wanted a rock 'n' roll band. But my vocal concept was that we approach singing like Sam and Dave did: he sings a line, I sing a line, we sing together

 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 06:17 PM
Some interesting history here...
 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 07:03 PM
A Tulsa boy -Drummer Jimmy Karstein (of the Garry Lewis Playboys) toured with Joe Cocker and played Eric Clapton’s all-star Rainbow Concert.

http://reddirtrangers.com/bios.htm#jimmy

 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 08:14 PM
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He was the drummer for Gary Lewis & The Playboys, whose bass player was Carl Radle

[Edited on 12/6/2007 by chiliD]


Well, I just gotta share this…

My mom used to babysit for Gary Lewis. Seems one of my mom’s college friends married Jerry Lewis (Gary’s father).

Someone please mention Buddy Hacket or Dolph Shayes in a thread and I’ll share some other info about my beloved mom (who is 79 years young and still teaching college).


Ok, so I’m a bit of a momma’s boy…so sue me.


 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 08:17 PM
Buddy Hackett! There - I said it! (That's pretty cool that your mom babysat for Gary Lewis )

 

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  posted on 12/6/2007 at 08:56 PM
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Buddy Hackett! There - I said it! (That's pretty cool that your mom babysat for Gary Lewis )


OK…well a lot of things happened when my mom was around 20 YO (late 1940's) and working at the Catskills in the summer (which, BTW, is where she met my dad, but that’s a story for another time).

So I think this may have been around the same time she was babysitting for Gary Lewis, Buddy Hacket was working there too, and he used to run around the hallway is his underwear, acting wild and crazy. (Maybe there was more to it, but that’s all I remember my mom telling us.)

 
 


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