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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 09:08 AM
Looking for an el-cheapo computer for my mother in law.

So, realizing most folks will say "Go Mac", I'm wondering about XP versus Vista.

M-I-L uses here computer for internet, loading photos from her digital camera and basic word processing stuff.
It's getting hard to find PCs with XP instead of Vista....does it matter?

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 09:12 AM
Get a used one.

As people upgrade their old systems can be found dirt cheap.

I'm looking for one just to use for burning.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 09:39 AM
I've been an XP user and if Vista is the way to go then Mac is it ultimately. If you're going used then I would suggest XP.

Nice with the Mac is you can have it all!!

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 09:52 AM
windows is vista isn't it ?

go XP...vista ..ummm SUCKS

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 09:53 AM
windows is vista isn't it ?

go XP...vista ..ummm SUCKS

Dell will still build you an XP machine..

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 10:13 AM
Most of my PC's have XP, but my daughter has a new laptop with Vista - for what your mother-in-law wants to do, Vista will work fine. The problems seem to be with incompatible software and hardware - which shouldn't be a problem for browsing, digital pictures and word processing.

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 11:29 AM
TechTurn is a Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher--good deals

http://store.techturn.com/



Ben's Bargains is a great source for deals too. "Where Ghetto Dogs Come For The Lowdown On Deals"

http://bensbargains.net/

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 01:07 PM
I've now got two Vista PC's and one still on XP. I like Vista, but you have to have enough horsepower to run it properly - which is why I'll never try to upgrade my 4-year old Dell desktop still runing XP.

If running on a more recent vintage PC, I find it more stable than XP. By stable, I mean having a machine on and not having to reboot. On XP, I noticed that after a week or so, performance would start to get a little wonky, and a reboot was usually in order. My Vista PC that I use for most of my personal computing (as oposed to my business laptop), has been running for weeks without a reboot.

The hardware/software incompatibility issues mentioned before are not a big deal if you're buying a configured PC. Reports of those problems were mostly from early adopters upgrading their old PC's. Most of the incompatibility issues were driver-based, like having an old video card which didn't have a Vista-compatible driver. I've had absolutely no compatibility issues, and that includes some rather obscure, downloaded-from-the-net, old software.

User experience-wise; Vista is not really that big a change from XP. A couple of new features, but admitidly not as sexy as the Macs latest OS features. I'll still take the greater range and affordability of software/hardware of a PC versus what's available for a Mac. Bravo to the Mac guys for the entertaining commercials - funded no doubt by iPod profits. Has it taken them out of single-digit market share yet?

[Edited on 11/24/2007 by Fujirich]

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 01:33 PM
Excellent points made Fujirich, even a few jabs to the Mac! LOL! There will always be pros and cons to all sytems. Sure is cool to have the options. I'm going with Mac this time around!

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 01:37 PM
xp

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 02:04 PM
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M-I-L uses here computer for internet, loading photos from her digital camera and basic word processing stuff.
It's getting hard to find PCs with XP instead of Vista....does it matter?


for these kind of apps,
NO

go with Vista. it will be supported longer as well - and the security levels are higher as well which is encouraging when we are talking about the type of user your MIL is.


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Support lifecycle
Mainstream support for Windows XP Service Pack 2 will end on April 14, 2009, four years after its general availability[36]. As per Microsoft's posted timetable, the company will stop licensing Windows XP to OEMs and terminate retail sales of the operating system June 30, 2008, 17 months after the release of Windows Vista.[37]

On April 14, 2009, Windows XP will begin its "Extended Support" period that will last for 5 years until April 8, 2014.[38] First generation Windows XP (without Service Pack 2) is no longer supported; Microsoft ended the support for Windows XP RTM on September 30, 2004 and Windows XP Service Pack 1 and 1a on October 10, 2006.[39]


Windows Vista Home support runs to 4/10/2012

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 02:39 PM
Thanks - I'll basically take XP versus Vista OS out of the set of variables...although I seem to be seeing a lot of Vista machines with 512MB RAM, but comments that 1G is much better.

...but....memory is cheap and it might give me something to get Mom-i Law for her birthday....

 
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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 05:26 PM
the problem is if you get vista based on the current applications and decide to start adding programs or software, it could get dicey..

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 05:51 PM
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the problem is if you get vista based on the current applications and decide to start adding programs or software, it could get dicey..

Perhaps I misunderstand what you're saying, but on the surface, this makes no sense.

Why would software, or hardware, purchased in the future not be Vista compatible? Virtually everything today from any major provider already is Vista compatible. Wouldn't all manufacturers of products for use on a PC platform know to make Vista compatibility their primary objective? Why would any credible manufacturer not conform their product to the main OS for the future?

It's actually the reverse that could one day be more of a problem. A few years down the road I could see where backwards compatibility to XP could be an issue for some.

All I can say now that I have two PC's running Vista: zero problems, zero compatibility issues. Easier networking setup. Solid, stable platform.

I would not buy an XP machine today unless I was looking to save bucks and didn't want to spend more on a faster processor and/or extra RAM. For anything but the most budget-minded applications, I'd go Vista. The only exception would be if I had some mission-critical software that was known not to be Vista compatible and had no upgrade option. But those would be very few indeed, and I'd question why I'm stuck with some old software that has no future.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 07:32 PM
Among the many complaints I get about Vista, the main one is that it doesn't support a particular program or piece of equipment that the person has used for a long time.
Much of the problem lies with proprietary software that has not been updated to work with Vista, or the equipment was made to work with Win 95. and the slower processors from that time.
I've even had one company that complained that the programs they use for inventory will not work with Vista. When asked what version of Windows it was developed for, they replied D.O.S. 4.0. (ST, guess how long it took me to get re-composed before I could call them back.)
They went from an old 286 processor, 8mghz, 512 KB Ram, and a 10 Meg hard drive to a AMD 64 dual core, 4800+, with 2 gigs of ram, 500 Gig SATA HD, running Vista Business.
Surveyors come looking for computers that support equipment they've had for almost 15 years, and needs serial ports to work with.

The main thing to remember is that older software and hardware is pretty much not going to work with Vista, and those that do will possibly cause more harm in the long run than getting updated software and equipment.
General rule of thumb:
If it worked with Win 95, it won't work with Vista. If it worked with Win 98 or ME, it might work with Vista. If it worked with XP, it more than likely will work with Vista. BUT, remember that there are always exceptions to the rule. I have found some software developed for Win95 that isn't even supported by the company (and sometimes the company isn't even around anymore.) that works pretty good with Vista. And some that was developed for XP that just will not work with Vista.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2007 at 07:48 PM
As you know, Mac's CPU has changed to Intel chip and be able to boot not only Mac OSX but also Windows.
It can say you are able to enjoy both application.
I'm a Mac user and doing many sound works and DVD authoring on it, they are very comfortable to me.
Editing video clips with iMovie and author it with fantastic menus by iDVD, and these programs are all freely attached when you buy Mac.
I use Microsoft in my office, and is good for business, but for my pleasure I selected Mac.

 
 


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