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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 10:42 AM
Have read a few places where Derek really drops hints about his dislike for John Mayer and laughs it off like there's some kind of bad blood there......anyone know if there's some backstory here as to what might have happened between them?

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 10:50 AM
Some kind of competition over Jessica Simpson, I think it was.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 11:28 AM
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Have read a few places where Derek really drops hints about his dislike for John Mayer and laughs it off like there's some kind of bad blood there......anyone know if there's some backstory here as to what might have happened between them?

I seriously doubt that. I can't see Derek having "bad blood" with anyone. Maybe he doesn't like his music, but I can't see Derek being unfriendly with anybody. He's just such a genuinely nice guy.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 04:21 PM
It sounds out of character for Derek. I doubt he said anything bad about any other musician.
 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 02:47 AM
You must have had a special Derek Trucks issue because mine, and millions like it, say nothing of what you are talking about
 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 07:35 AM
Nothing in the magazine issue - but some comments in a recent interview - I think an interview related to the Bridgeport dTb show....
 
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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 07:38 AM
Yeah that's the one - read on down near the end of this........



The Derek Trucks Band
Thursday, November 15. 7:30 p.m., Klein Memorial Auditorium, 910 Fairfield Ave., Bridgeport. $25-49; $5 member discount. (203) 259-1036 www.fairfieldtheater.org.

Something great can be said about a young Pete Townsend or Buddy Guy galloping and flipping out around the stage like beasts. Something more meaningful and profound can be said about a guitarist who can produce that same level of sonic fierceness while remaining completely meditative and still.

Derek Trucks can melt your face off and send you flying across the room with his eyes shut and feet firmly planted. You'll dance your shirt off at one of the Derek Trucks Band's shows and the group's namesake won't have even moved.

Catching up with Trucks on the phone, he told me people have been hounding him for years to be more active on stage, but tells those people "right where to put it."

"You have to have a certain amount of confidence to do what we do," he says. "There's plenty of people out there jumpin' around and doing that thing if that's the fix you need."

Perhaps today's most imaginative guitarist, Trucks picks up a little from everything. His sound can at times be a half-sitar-like noise, half-blues style. Mix in some jazz fusion and authentic Southern rock and you have something unmistakably Trucks.

Equipped with nothing more than a glass slide, Trucks doesn't use effects pedals and he plays one guitar, a red double-horned '61 Gibson SG 2000.

"For me it's just a clarity thing," he says. "The sound I'm looking for, it's just, if you have a great sounding amp and a guitar, that's all I really need. Some people enjoy the other stuff and some people will make it really work. But it kind of confuses the issue for me."

He put together the Derek Trucks Band when he was 14 and today, 14 years later, the core of the group—Trucks, drummer Yonrico Scott and bassist Todd Smallie—is still together and touring the world. (Along the way, they've picked up Count M'Butu, an African percussion master, Kofi Burbridge on keys and flute, and Mike Mattison as the soulful vocalist.) Scott and Smallie have watched Trucks go from a teenage protégé novelty to an official Allman Brothers Band member to Eric Clapton's second-hand man for a 24-country tour, to a major celeb in the jam-rock world.

For anyone who's been awaiting the next Duane Allman (whose parts Trucks plays at Allman Brothers shows), Trucks is like Christmas morning. His solos are mind-bending and his approach is delightfully Zen-like. Warren Haynes might not like to know that people are thinking of Trucks as heir to Duane's throne, but Warren Haynes is going to have to deal.

The Allmans discovered Trucks in their home turf of South Florida when he was a mere scamp, 10 or 11 years old. He was playing at a local blues club, and the Allmans actually came to him. His uncle, Butch Trucks, has long been the drummer for the Allmans. They knew this kid was worth picking up and holding on to. He was just a teenager and he was playing with one of rock's most legendary groups.

"When I was on stage with people like that, there's a little bit of nerves," says Trucks. "But once you get up there, you just do your thing. You don't feel out of place or uncomfortable."

And what about the Clapton tour?

"That was nice," he says, simply. "It was a unique way to spend a year." He says Clapton has houses sprinkled all over the world and that both of their young families would hang out at each house along the way. It's a time Trucks refers to as "the Clapton thing."

"When you play with people that much, it definitely changes the way you play and it changes your whole demeanor and how you feel about what you do," he says.

Trucks has collaborated with a musical textbook full of people over the course of his young life, not the least of which is his wife, Susan Tedeschi. "Her vocal style and the way she gets through to people, it forces me to step it up," says the guitarist. The couple met during the 1999 Allman Brothers Band tour, for which Tedeschi was an opening act. They now have two young children and their own recording studio behind their house in Jacksonville. They plan to do an album together as soon as she puts out another solo one.

Meanwhile, the Derek Trucks Band stays focused purely on authenticity and artistry. The band is not concerned with forced aesthetics or flashiness, and they're endlessly proud to be where they're at without radio hits. They're not struggling, but they're not huge—and that's how they like it.

"If you have the opportunity to be somewhere in the middle there and lucky enough to actually do what we do, I think you feel a lot of gratitude," says Trucks. "But I also think you feel like you have to continually earn it."

That's not to say Trucks has never gotten the glitzy treatment. Maybe you saw him on the cover of a February Rolling Stone, lying upside-down on a white floor with Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante and local product John Mayer, right-side-up, sandwiched between them.

"Sorry about that," Trucks says of the cover. Then he laughs, and laughs pretty hard.

"Yeah, they actually had us lying down," he recalls. "I protested for a little while, but I couldn't get anyone to really go with me. I relented. I also mildly protested in the beginning, just with the lineup. But that's another story. And another lesson learned."

Frusciante, who's been a guitar god for 20 years, was also upside-down. "I dug being around him," Trucks says. "Guys like that, who have been through the fire in their life, I always feel more comfortable around people like that."

I tell Trucks about Greater Bridgeport's love-hate relationship with native son Mayer. "Nice, you know all about it then." And we just kept laughing.

I tell him how the Weekly is always a little hard on Mayer, and I go into it softly, saying maybe we're not always right.

"But maybe so," Trucks corrects me, and then laughs again. The man's got his head on straight.

"Things like that [cover] are always a double-edged sword," he says. "It's kind of nice to be noticed, but then it's ammo for your really good friends to give you total hell."

But Derek Trucks can take it.

 
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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 07:42 AM
There were similar comments in a video interview about the ribbing he took from musician friends about being on the cover with Mayer.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 12:09 PM
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For anyone who's been awaiting the next Duane Allman (whose parts Trucks plays at Allman Brothers shows), Trucks is like Christmas morning. His solos are mind-bending and his approach is delightfully Zen-like. Warren Haynes might not like to know that people are thinking of Trucks as heir to Duane's throne, but Warren Haynes is going to have to deal.


This writer comes across very juvenile. I'm pretty sure Warren "deals" just fine with his role in the ABB. And I'm sure if you ask anyone in the band or a real fan of the band we'll all say neither Derek or Warren ar heir's to Duane's throne. Which is why both of them play slide, because it takes 2 to match the 1.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 12:37 PM
Hmmmm, I didn't really take that as Derek and Mayer having "bad blood" between them. It was a discussion mainly about his relationship with the city of Bridgeport, CT, where he grew up. I think the only comment that could be viewed as a negative one towards Mayer is in his reply to the comment, "the Weekly is always a little hard on Mayer...maybe we're not always right."

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 01:14 PM
In my estimation, Derek's interview comments imply that he doesn't have a great deal of respect for John Mayer. When I read the article it brought a huge smile to my face.
I think Mayer was only on the cover of RS's "guitar gods" issue because of his commercial appeal. In my opinion, to consider him one of the greatests young guitarists alive is obsurd. Not that he doesn't have a few chops, but there are hundreds of guys in bar bands, across the USA and beyond, that can copy SRV and Hendrix licks note for note with practice. The"feeling and soul" department is where Mayer is lacking. And after having read a few articles/interviews with Mayer he seems to really be his own biggest fan. He comes off as a real turd.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 01:53 PM
I'm linking to a video from the Jammys 2002 video of Derek & Robert Randolph completely (& literally) playing around John Mayer. This is one of the most painful interactions I have seen between musicians of this calibre.

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=66508

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 05:43 PM
Somehow I doubt that Mayer would hang out at the HTN party before the Beacon and do a few jello shots!!

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 10:33 PM
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And after having read a few articles/interviews with Mayer he seems to really be his own biggest fan. He comes off as a real turd.


Totally Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 06:53 AM
The above link from the jammy's ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=aardLdl7ZDc ) fully proves the sentiment that Derek is expressing about Mayer not really being that great of a talent as much as having the right A & R man playing golf with the right record copanies and radio station owners.

My lil 4 year old says he looks like a chicken head, but she is only 4.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 08:15 AM
Yeah it has nothing to do with that article in the Rolling Stone issue, I've just read a couple other interviews where there's a sort of unspoken vibe about him being in that issue. I agree it didn't seem like him at all, thats why I was curious.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 12:47 PM
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Some kind of competition over Jessica Simpson, I think it was.
LMAO!!! ummmm - NOT! Believe Derek already has a princess far fairer. And re: trash talking - that does not sound like something that would be done by the type of person I imagine Derek to be.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 01:30 PM
This is pretty funny to me. I saw both DTB and mayer at CenterCity Fest in Charlotte. I think it was 2001. There were like 8 bored people at mayer's show. DTB ripped and then signed autographs after the show.

It always suprises met that Mayer is mentioned in these cases.

i just wanted to add thanks for the youtube links. Mayer looks confused in most of the time. made my morning.

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 05:08 PM
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Have read a few places where Derek really drops hints about his dislike for John Mayer and laughs it off like there's some kind of bad blood there......anyone know if there's some backstory here as to what might have happened between them?

I seriously doubt that. I can't see Derek having "bad blood" with anyone. Maybe he doesn't like his music, but I can't see Derek being unfriendly with anybody. He's just such a genuinely nice guy.


Maybe you saw him on the cover of a February Rolling Stone, lying upside-down on a white floor with Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante and local product John Mayer, right-side-up, sandwiched between them.

"Sorry about that," Trucks says of the cover. Then he laughs, and laughs pretty hard.

"Yeah, they actually had us lying down," he recalls. "I protested for a little while, but I couldn't get anyone to really go with me. I relented. I also mildly protested in the beginning, just with the lineup. But that's another story. And another lesson learned."

Frusciante, who's been a guitar god for 20 years, was also upside-down. "I dug being around him," Trucks says. "Guys like that, who have been through the fire in their life, I always feel more comfortable around people like that."

I tell Trucks about Greater Bridgeport's love-hate relationship with native son Mayer. "Nice, you know all about it then." And we just kept laughing.

I tell him how the Weekly is always a little hard on Mayer, and I go into it softly, saying maybe we're not always right.

"But maybe so," Trucks corrects me, and then laughs again. The man's got his head on straight.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 07:40 PM
Ouch, that youtube from the jammy's makes me wanna just put down my guitar and quit! That was bad@ss!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 08:18 PM
I just watched that Jammy's jam.......it all makes perfect sense. I've played guitar most of my life and honestly if I was John Mayer, I would have gotten in a cab and gone right back to my hotel after walking off that stage. How humiliating, he had no business on that stage. Awkward is th perfect word for it.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2007 at 11:53 PM
Program note: John Mayer is David Letterman's guest Thanksgiving night. It's a rerun from last T'giving, with the annual satellite hookup with Dave's mom, plus guest Eugene Levy.

 

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