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Author: Subject: Has anyone ever heard Gregg Allman's song "Southbound"?

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 12:57 PM
I saw a thread talking about Alex Taylor and looked up one of his albums.
It makes mention of his covering Gregg's "Southbound".

I looked it up and and it seems there was an Hourglass song
by Gregg called "Southbound".

Just curious ...


 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 01:11 PM
It was on their last album, Power of Love.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 05:07 PM
Actually I think "Southbound" is a Dickey Betts song, not a Gregg song at all.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 05:52 PM
No the Dickey Betts' song is "Southbound" from Brothers and Sisters. That's the one we all know.

Gregg wrote a song in the late 60's called "South Bound". There was a solo version recorded after Hour Glass broke up. You can hear that on the CD reissue of Hour Glass' POWER OF LOVE. It's a completely different song to Dickey's. I'm quite sure that is the song Alex Taylor "covered". Although I haven't heard his version of it. I like it, it is a good song. Gregg tends to write good songs though.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 07:21 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southbound_%28Hour_Glass_compilation%29

Buy here...

http://www.hittinthenote.com/cart/ps-292-59-hour-glassbrsouthbound.aspx

[Edited on 11/17/2007 by susea]

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 07:54 PM
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You are correct, it is an old Gregg song (thank you Google). It listed the songwriters as Allman/Brown. Since Johnny Sandlin played on this album, I guess we could ask Bigann about it.



Johnny said the version of Southbound Dickey wrote is not the one he produced for Alex. Alex cut the song written by Allman/Brown on the first album he recorded for Capricorn, 'Friends and Neighbors', and Johnny said he remembers playing bass on the song. I hope that answers what was being asked...if not, let me know and I'll ask again.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 08:49 PM
Another old favourite, Friends & Neighbors should be rereleased - have an old delete bin punched vinyl album copy that still sounds great. Basically Cowboy( Boyer & Talton) with Paul Hornsby,Johnny Sandlin, James Taylor,King Curtis backing Alex Taylor this was one of Capricorn's in house jems. The funk that James could only show a touch of came out of Alex. Check out his version of James' Night Owl or the GA Southbound ,which is a swinging B3 driven song.

Nice to see this thread. Ann, Looking at the liner notes, jeeze I miss them, I see the only track Johnny didnt play bass on he was on drums.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 08:59 PM
Southbound is one of Dickey's songs that the ABB decided to keep playing after Dickey was booted in 2000. They also continue to play "Jessica" "Revival" and "In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed." I wonder why Dickey didn't take action in order to reclaim these songs.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 10:30 PM
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Southbound is one of Dickey's songs that the ABB decided to keep playing after Dickey was booted in 2000. They also continue to play "Jessica" "Revival" and "In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed." I wonder why Dickey didn't take action in order to reclaim these songs.


First of all, Dickey is STILL a member of the Allman Brothers Band, at least on the business side of the fence. For Dickey to take action for the ABB performing these songs would be somewhat "suing himself".

As for the Gregg's "Sound Bound" that was a totally different song than Dickey's "Southbound". I remember Alex Taylor and Friends dong this song live when touring with the 5-piece Allman Brothers Band, and Chuck Leavell did a "killer" B-3 part towards the end of the song.

 
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  posted on 11/16/2007 at 10:51 PM
Southbound can be found on the re-release of the second Hourglass album, Power of Love. I think these CDs were put out back in the early 90's. The recording date is listed as 1/30/69. I love that song and have encouraged the current band to do it along with Bad Dream - another killer outake put on the re-release of the first Hourglass CD. I believe it was that version of "Southbound" that Gregg asked Cowboy to use on the opening notes of "Midnight Rider" on the Laid Back album. I may be wrong - it's been a long time since I thought about it - anyone else?

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 12:05 AM
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Southbound is one of Dickey's songs that the ABB decided to keep playing after Dickey was booted in 2000. They also continue to play "Jessica" "Revival" and "In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed." I wonder why Dickey didn't take action in order to reclaim these songs.

Reclaim how? He doesn't have any right or means to stop the ABB from playing them - in concert, and on records too, you can basically play whatever songs you want. Dickey does play Liz Reed, Jessica, Southbound and several of the other songs that fit this category. And whatever business arrangement Dickey has or doesn't have with the band today, he would get a performance royalty when they play songs he wrote.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 12:40 AM
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Southbound can be found on the re-release of the second Hourglass album, Power of Love. I think these CDs were put out back in the early 90's. The recording date is listed as 1/30/69. I love that song and have encouraged the current band to do it along with Bad Dream - another killer outake put on the re-release of the first Hourglass CD. I believe it was that version of "Southbound" that Gregg asked Cowboy to use on the opening notes of "Midnight Rider" on the Laid Back album. I may be wrong - it's been a long time since I thought about it - anyone else?

JNB


That particular HourGlass recording of Southbound was Gregg recording with studio musicians and not the band HourGlass. By that time the band had broken up and the rest of the guys were doing other things...it was Gregg finishing up the deal with Liberty.

As for using the song on the opening notes of Midnight Rider, I asked Johnny and he said that's the first time he'd ever heard that thought. Southbound didn't factor in to Laid Back in any way. Originally on the Laid Back version of Midnight Rider Gregg had gone into the studio with a lick that contained an odd number of beats. Two beats were changed when Scott played it for the recording but Gregg wasn't there at the time it went down. It's been written about before, however the story about Scott 'screwing up' the lick wasn't accurate.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 05:05 AM
you know you REALLY need to set down with that man & write a book!!

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 10:28 AM
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you know you REALLY need to set down with that man & write a book!!


I whole heartedly agree!

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 10:37 AM
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Southbound is one of Dickey's songs that the ABB decided to keep playing after Dickey was booted in 2000. They also continue to play "Jessica" "Revival" and "In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed." I wonder why Dickey didn't take action in order to reclaim these songs.


Any band can play any song they want live. Think of all the bar bands that play these songs. There is no law against performance of any song and no one can stop anyone from playing a song live......Copyright infringment only includes reproduction for the intent of distribution

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 02:00 PM
Does anyone have the Lyrics?

It would be cool to see them.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 02:44 PM
Absolutely correct. Imagine what it might cost us to sing along at concerts or to sing in the shower.

I don't know about you OTF, but people pay me to NOT sing...even in the shower.

 

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I have always liked the Hourglass tune "Southbound" from the Power of Love cd. I'm VERY tired of Dickey's "Southbound" though. I think it would be very cool if the ABB of today cared to cover Gregg's version. It's a nice song.


 

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Gregg could even try the song on tour with the "Friends." The song is well worth playing and people would enjoy hearing it. I think the song is Gregg at his seminal best. It's a song that charactherizes what Gregg Allman was to become as an artist from the South. It's a lost classic from Gregg's past.









 

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  posted on 11/17/2007 at 05:20 PM
Are there any clips of this song out there? I would love to get an idea of the sound of it!

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 08:27 AM
I do believe I've heard Gregg sing it at the Beacon a number of times.
Hands down, no one sings it like Dickey (IMHO, ie).

 

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  posted on 11/18/2007 at 01:54 PM
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It is a Dickey Betts song. Gregg sang it on Brothers and Sisters and in concert in those years. Sometime in the 90's Dickey started singing it. And now, of course, Gregg sings it again.


That's right, the truth finally comes out, Gregg's a Dickey Betts fan!

 

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  posted on 11/26/2007 at 09:29 PM
Recorded 1/30/69 - Liberty Studios - Los Angeles, CA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5qVDU0pnwY

 

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  posted on 11/26/2007 at 09:32 PM
Clay, Bro, I don't know how you do it! You always have what we are looking for! You Da Man!

 

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  posted on 11/27/2007 at 01:07 AM
Clay, darlin', thank you!!!!

 

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