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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 05:22 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Dio always puts down the Oz version of Sabbath by saying Tony and Geezer were ready to play something a little more musically challanging? I've read interviews in the past where he has said something similiar. So I dug out my Black Sabbath DVD "The Last Supper" and IMO it is musically better than the Heaven and Hell stuff. Bill Ward spanks Vinnie Appices a$$! Someone should remind Dio to belittle someone is to be little yourself. No pun intended.
 
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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 06:07 PM
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No pun intended.


bwaaaaah still funny though.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:11 PM
Just a little inferiority complex. He realizes that the original lineup is so popular and did so much great music together. The first Dio album(Heaven and Hell) is as good as any other Sabbath album, but that is it. So Dio feels a little bit inferior and has to belittle the Ozzy stuff. Kind of reminds me of how Sammy Hagar used to say all the time that his version of Van Halen blew away the Roth version musically and we all know that is rediculous. I happen to like both versions of both bands, but in each case the original band was superior.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:23 PM
Why would Dio feel inferior to Ozzy these days?

Ozzy's voice is shot. BS had to drop Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
because Ozzy can't hit the high notes any more.

Dio still sounds great.

All that great stuff he sang with Rainbow is in his resume as well.


I don't think Dio has any feeling of inferiority

no reason to

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:34 PM
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Why would Dio feel inferior to Ozzy these days?

Ozzy's voice is shot. BS had to drop Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
because Ozzy can't hit the high notes any more.

Dio still sounds great.

All that great stuff he sang with Rainbow is in his resume as well.


I don't think Dio has any feeling of inferiority

no reason to




Just the Sabbath stuff. Dio only did one great album with BS. I'm not saying Dio isn't great and doesn't have other very good material from Rainbow and Dio and I'm not saying that Ozzy's voice is anywhere near Dio's at this point. But Dio was putting down the old Sabbath music which is far superior to the music from the Dio/Sabbath catalog. If he didn't feel at all inferior he wouldn't have to take shots at Black Sabbath's earlier music which will always be more popular. Dio was probably just pissed that they had to call this past tour Heaven and Hell instead of Black Sabbath. Either way it was a great tour and Dio should just accept his place in Black Sabbath history and stop taking shots at Ozzy and the old BS stuff.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:39 PM
I've always liked and respected Dio and I still do... but check out this commentary about former guitarist Vivian Campbell and Def Leppard (for whom Campbell has played for a long time.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOwZBo8FQvo I was somewhat shocked because I didn't think he'd stoop to such levels. He has since apologized for his remarks and claims he didn't know he was being recorded (via video camera phone). Personally I don't see how he couldn't have noticed since it looks like no attempt was made to conceal the device. Anyhow Dio... or Halfpint as I affectionately refer to him as still amazes me with his vocal prowess considering he is the oldest heavy metal vocalist I can think of. I believe he's 63 or there abouts. Just check out his scream at the beginning of "Mob Rules" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn57Hx5coEE from the new Heaven And Hell at Radio City Music Hall cd or dvd.

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:42 PM
If he starts feeling inferior to Ozzy, all he has to do is turn on a Tape of the Ozzborne's TV show and watch
the pill head Ozzy stumble about his house.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:59 PM
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I've always liked and respected Dio and I still do... but check out this commentary about former guitarist Vivian Campbell and Def Leppard (for whom Campbell has played for a long time.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOwZBo8FQvo I was somewhat shocked because I didn't think he'd stoop to such levels. He has since apologized for his remarks and claims he didn't know he was being recorded (via video camera phone). Personally I don't see how he couldn't have noticed since it looks like no attempt was made to conceal the device. Anyhow Dio... or Halfpint as I affectionately refer to him as still amazes me with his vocal prowess considering he is the oldest heavy metal vocalist I can think of. I believe he's 63 or there abouts. Just check out his scream at the beginning of "Mob Rules" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn57Hx5coEE from the new Heaven And Hell at Radio City Music Hall cd or dvd.

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[Edited on 11/14/2007 by tenaciousme]


Dio still has an awesome voice, but that scream at the beggining of Mob Rules is definetly aided with some kind of effect. When I saw them in September that scream was totally missing from the song. He didn't even attempt it. I don't know why they added that to the DVD. It was totally unnecessary.

[Edited on 11/14/2007 by sixty8]

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 09:11 PM
There is no question it is aided by an effect of some sort but that is his voice hitting that high note (if you can call that a note) and then the echo or reverb kicks in. I would imagine that he did that sparingly throughout the tour and reserved it for nights such RCM when he knew it was being recorded for an official release. Can he do it nightly... no way. Did he do it that night? I believe he did.
 

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  posted on 11/14/2007 at 11:54 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that Dio always puts down the Oz version of Sabbath by saying Tony and Geezer were ready to play something a little more musically challanging? .


Dio may be talking about the post-Sabotage period when drugs finally took their toll and they lost the plot.

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 12:01 AM
I agree. It could also mean the fact that the recent Ozzy-era has recorded all of maybe 2 songs since they reunited in the mid 1990s, so playing the same old songs on each tour wouldn't be challenging either.

I also don't buy the idea that Heaven & Hell was the one good Dio-era Sabbath album. Mob Rules is an all time classic....I'll be catching the current H&H version of Sabbath if/when they hit Atlanta.

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 07:44 AM
Black Sabbath music in general is not very challenging to play. As for Dio and his comments, everyone is entitled, but he can not compare what he did to the original Sabbath catalog, that is what put the band on the map.
 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 09:09 AM
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I also don't buy the idea that Heaven & Hell was the one good Dio-era Sabbath album. Mob Rules is an all time classic....I'll be catching the current H&H version of Sabbath if/when they hit Atlanta.


My thoughts exactly. Mob Rules is awesome.

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 01:13 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that Dio always puts down the Oz version of Sabbath by saying Tony and Geezer were ready to play something a little more musically challanging? I've read interviews in the past where he has said something similiar. So I dug out my Black Sabbath DVD "The Last Supper" and IMO it is musically better than the Heaven and Hell stuff. Bill Ward spanks Vinnie Appices a$$! Someone should remind Dio to belittle someone is to be little yourself. No pun intended.


Well, you know. I haven't heard it, so maybe he did mean it that way. But sometimes I feel as a musician when you say something "more musically challenging", it's not always an insult to what you're referring to. (Although, he probably did mean it to be one).

The other thread where Branford Marsalis said something about Gregg Allman never listening to jazz. I didn't find that as a dig to Gregg either. Some people don't listen to jazz. You don't need to listen to jazz to be a good musician, it's just a fact that someone who doesn't listen to jazz may not understand that jazz is often played in different time signatures. - I guess my point is, my band plays what we like to think of as "pop" music. It's not Britney Spears by any means, in fact we took the name "diversapop" because we bring so many influences into our music (jam-band, funk, blues, jazz, etc). We have a few "jammy" songs with long guitar solos and big builds, we play a few things in some odd or mixed time signatures like 13/8, but a lot of our music is very accessible. And we write all of our own stuff. I LOVE to play that poppy stuff (beatlesque poppy), but sometimes I do want to challenge myself beyond that (which is where some of the other sections of 13/8 come from). NOT that there is anything wrong with the pop songs and not that the pop songs don't create a whole new set of challenges. And perhaps he is just saying that matter of factly and didn't mean it to be an insult. Or maybe he did???

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 02:03 PM
Hmmm, I have to be honest here. I have not heard any of the non-Ozzy Sabbath material. I am perfectly content with everything from 1970-75.

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 05:34 PM
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Hmmm, I have to be honest here. I have not heard any of the non-Ozzy Sabbath material. I am perfectly content with everything from 1970-75.
you really have no idea what you are missing. you can get heaven and hell and mob rules for about $9 each at a best buy.

 

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  posted on 11/15/2007 at 09:46 PM
Concerning this post by soulman33...

Black Sabbath music in general is not very challenging to play. As for Dio and his comments, everyone is entitled, but he can not compare what he did to the original Sabbath catalog, that is what put the band on the map.

...I'm not a musician so I can hardly argue. I'm guessing that "Iron Man" may not be technically challenging but I gotta believe that some of the solos that Tony rips out are not easy to play.

 
 


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