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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 02:02 PM
You got to love college student newspapers!! Hats off to the Scarlet and Black!

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Clinton aides plant student's question
By PATRICK CALDWELL

The Iowa caucuses are known for their “living-room chats” where ordinary Iowans can meet candidates face-to-face and talk about what interests voters. When candidates have larger events or make major policy speeches, the crowds are bigger, but there is often still an opportunity for questions. But under the pressures of major media coverage, with polls narrowing in Iowa, campaigns can potentially control questions and coverage by planning questions ahead of time.

While no campaigns admit to this practice, at a recent Hillary Clinton campaign event in Newton, Iowa, some of the questions posed to the New York Senator were planned in advance, planting some audience members in the crowd.

On Tuesday Nov. 6, the Clinton campaign stopped at a biodiesel plant in Newton as part of a weeklong series of events to introduce her new energy plan. The event was clearly intended to be as much about the press as the Iowa voters in attendance, as a large press core helped fill the small venue. Reporters from many major national news outlets came to the small Iowa town, from such media giants as The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, the Associated Press, and CNN.

After her speech, Clinton accepted questions. But according to Grinnell College student Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff ’10, some of the questions from the audience were planned in advance. “They were canned,” she said. Before the event began, a Clinton staff member approached Gallo-Chasanoff to ask a specific question after Clinton’s speech. “One of the senior staffers told me what [to ask],” she said.

Clinton called on Gallo-Chasanoff after her speech to ask a question: what Clinton would do to stop the effects of global warming. Clinton began her response by noting that young people often pose this question to her before delving into the benefits of her plan.

But the source of the question was no coincidence—at this event “they wanted a question from a college student,” Gallo-Chasanoff said. She also noted that staffers prompted Clinton to call on her and another who had been approached before the event, although Clinton used her discretion to select questions and called on people who had not been prepped before hand. Some of the questions asked were confusing and clearly off-message.

The practice of planting audience members to ask specific questions does not appear to be a common practice, or at least not a politically acceptable one. “Our campaign does not plant questions,” said Lauren Rose, Communications Director for Governor Bill Richardson’s campaign. When asked what she would think of other campaigns who did plant audience members, Rose said, “I think campaigns should give Iowa caucus-goers the chance to ask the questions they want.”

When asked if the John Edwards campaign employed such practices, Jenni Lee, Edwards’s Iowa Press Secretary said, “No, they ask whatever they want.”

But the Clinton campaign also denied the practice of planting. “It’s not a practice of our campaign to ask people to ask specific questions,” said Mark Daley, Clinton’s Iowa Communications Director. Daley said that when an event is focusing on a specific topic, such as health care or Iraq, “people are encouraged to ask questions in these regards,” but denied that they are given specific questions.

But when directly asked if his statements meant that planting does not occur in the Hillary campaign, Daley could only say, “to the best of my knowledge.”

“[Planting] is not something that is encouraged in our campaign,” he said.

The event in Newton was a particularly major policy speech, more informative than rallying. The campaign’s apparent tactics at this event may have little or no relationship with the questions at less formal campaign events.

Other presidential campaigns were approached for comment on the topic, but no others responded before the paper went to press.

Serving as a stark contrast to the Clinton event was Richardson’s campaign stop at Grinnell College the night before. Richardson’s appearance was designed as an opportunity for voters to interact with the candidate, and not the media event that Clinton held in Newton. In lower-profile events like Richardson’s (and most of Clinton’s) candidates face many challenging, presumably spontaneous questions.

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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 02:08 PM
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Clinton Campaign Confirms Planting Town Hall Question, Says It Won't Happen Again
Saturday, November 10, 2007

By Major Garrett

SIOUX CITY, Iowa — Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton’s campaign admitted Friday that it planted a global warming question in Newton, Iowa, Tuesday during a town hall meeting to discuss clean energy.

Clinton campaign spokesman Mo Elliethee admitted that the campaign had planted the question and said it would not happen again.

"On this occasion a member of our staff did discuss a possible question about Senator Clinton's energy plan at a forum,” Elliethee said.

“However, Senator Clinton did not know which questioners she was calling on during the event. This is not standard policy and will not be repeated again.”

In a state where the caucus is held sacred and the impromptu and candid style of the town hall meeting is held dear, Clinton’s planted question may come as a great offense to Iowans.

According to a report on the Grinnell University Web site, the Clinton campaign arranged for some of the questions for the candidate to be asked by college students:

"On Tuesday Nov. 6, the Clinton campaign stopped at a biodiesel plant in Newton as part of a weeklong series of events to introduce her new energy plan. The event was clearly intended to be as much about the press as the Iowa voters in attendance, as a large press core helped fill the small venue....

"After her speech, Clinton accepted questions. But according to Grinnell College student Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff ’10, some of the questions from the audience were planned in advance. 'They were canned,' she said. Before the event began, a Clinton staff member approached Gallo-Chasanoff to ask a specific question after Clinton’s speech. 'One of the senior staffers told me what [to ask],' she said.

"Clinton called on Gallo-Chasanoff after her speech to ask a question: what Clinton would do to stop the effects of global warming. Clinton began her response by noting that young people often pose this question to her before delving into the benefits of her plan.

"But the source of the question was no coincidence — at this event 'they wanted a question from a college student,' Gallo-Chasanoff said."

The tape of the event shows that the question and answer went as follows:

Question: "As a young person, I'm worried about the long-term effects of global warming How does your plan combat climate change?

Clinton: "Well, you should be worried. You know, I find as I travel around Iowa that it's usually young people that ask me about global warming."

The campaign's admission that it planted the question may be another blow to the New York senator's image as a trustworthy politician.

Clinton's critics have accused her of being a double-talker who refuses to answer tough questions specifically. Now her campaign has acknowledged planting at least one question.

Already her rivals have begun to criticize Friday's revelation.

“In light of a weak debate performance, not to mention a persistent inability to answer the tough questions, it appears the Clinton campaign has adopted a new strategy of planting questions,” John Edwards’ Communications Director Chris Kofinis said.

“It’s what the Clinton campaign calls the politics of planting.”


 

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Here is a bright move by John Edwards,

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Mellencamp, standing alone on stage with his guitar, then launched into Tough It Out and Be the Best You Can followed by Jesus Can You Give Me a Ride Back Home? and another song about youth and love. The crowd erupted as he started Small Town and sang the lyrics as though Wells Fargo Arena were one of those sing-along piano bars.

It's at this point Mellencamp gestures and John Edwards walks on stage. After a few cheers boos overtake the hall. "I've been in your small towns," Edwards said as Mellencamp stepped aside to give Edwards a place behind the microphone. "...You didn't come here to listen to me," Edwards continues as he winds down with a "thank you," waves and walks to the darkened edge of the stage.

The crowd is mostly booing at this point. "I came for a concert," one man behind me yelled. "Refund. Refund," another chanted a few rows back. One person in the crowd made this observation: "Are they booing Edwards specifically or booing because they don't like politics?" Mellencamp tells the crowd he's "had a lot of fun with that guy," and begins playing his guitar and singing Small Town again. The crowd slowly begins to sing along again. Edwards stood on the darkened edge of the stage until the song was over, then exited. Mellencamp didn't say anything at the song's end, and there was a swell of chatter among the audience members.


 

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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 08:16 PM
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Clinton Campaign Accused for the Second Time of Planting a Question at a Public Appearance

Saturday, November 10, 2007

By Major Garrett

SIOUX CITY, Iowa — For the second time in as many days, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has had to deal with accusations of planting questions during public appearances, FOX News has learned.

In a telephone interview Saturday, Geoffrey Mitchell, 32, said he was approached by Clinton campaign worker Chris Hayler to ask a question about how she was standing up to President Bush on the question on funding the Iraq war and a troop withdrawal timeline.

The encounter happened before an event hosted by Iowa State Sen. Gene Frais on a farm outside Fort Madison, Iowa.

Clinton's Iowa campaign confirmed to Fox News that one of its staff discussed questions with Mitchell before her April 2 event, but denied attempting to plant a pro-Clinton question.

Mo Elliethee, spokesman for Clinton's campaign in Iowa, told Fox that Hayler and Mitchell "had a previous relationship" and that a discussion about Clinton arose out of a normal conversation between two people who knew each other well.

"They had a previous relationship and were talking before the event and the topic of the senator's position on Iraq came up and Geoffrey said he had some questions," Elliethee said. "Chris suggested Geoffrey ask a question."

Mitchell, however, said that he and Hayler did not know each other personally before the event.

"I had no previous relationship with him," said Mitchell. "I knew his name and by name only as some who worked for Sen. Evan Bayh. But we didn't know each other and I had never met him before this event."

Mitchell told Fox the Clinton campaign wanted to contrast Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama who had recently said the president would probably prevail in the Iraq funding battle with Congress.

Mithell said he refused to ask the question.

"I told Chris I had other issues I wanted to raise with Sen. Clinton," Mitchell said.

Asked what those were, Mitchell said, "I wanted to ask her why she voted for the Iraq war and why she didn't consider that a mistake."

Mitchell told FOX News, for that Hayler, the Clinton campaign worker, was unhappy and moved on to others.

"I know he tried to have others ask that question," Mitchell said.

Asked if the Clinton campaign denied Mitchell's unequivocal assertion that Hayler tried to plant a question about Clinton trying to stand up to Bush on Iraq war funding, Elliethee declined.

"I'm not going to comment on what he said," said Elleithee said, referring to Mitchell. "I'm going to discuss what our interpretation is. They had a previous relationship, the subject came up and there's nothing more to it tha that. It's not newsworthy. It's innocent. It's not yesterday."

That was a reference to Clinton's campaign admitting, first to FOX News, that it planted a question on global warming at a Newton, Iowa, event on Tuesday.

Ultimately, Clinton took no questions from the crowd at the Fort Madison event that Mitchell attended. Elliethee said the campaign ran out of time to take questions.

Mitchell told Fox News he is an Obama supporter but cannot participate in the Iowa caucus.

Mitchell is a minister in Hamilton and said he was reluctant to come forward because of the scrutiny he and his congregation might receive.

"But I thought this was important to get out and I want people to know what happened."

When contacted by FOX News and read Clinton's interpretation of events, Mitchell said: "I stand by my story. Completely."

 

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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 09:31 PM
Ever really seen a George Bush press conference? Like planting questioners is a new thing!!! Not!!!

 

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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 10:16 PM
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Ever really seen a George Bush press conference? Like planting questioners is a new thing!!! Not!!!


Well, I guess its true what they say, two wrongs does make a right, to some people.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2007 at 10:55 PM
I didn't say it was right....I'm just saying people have a lot of nerve acting like she's done something original and atrocious when they've put up with Bush and his ringers for the past seven years. If one is going to have righteous indignation for one, then it should be for both!!!

 

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I have a problem with it no matter whether it is Bush or Hillary. I've stated before, history may prove him right on certain fronts, or wrong. However, in my opinion, Bush is one of the most inane communicating presidents that we've ever had. I've watched 80 percent of David Letterman's nightly 'Great Moments In Presidential Speeches," and I laugh and cringe every time Bush takes the mic. But is he the worst president as far as speeches go? Nope, as I just listened to a Jimmah Carter speech recently from the 1970's and it was Deputy Dog, down in the dumps, negative BS.

Anyway, I don't like it on any side. But isn't this a new day?? When is the anti-BS new regime going to take place?? It is times like this when Ron Paul makes the most sense.

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What OTF just said! Interesting how Derek doesn't like it on either side and yet, as OTF points out....only the democrat transgressions are mentioned.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2007 at 11:44 AM
The outrage seems to be over copyright infringement. Fake journalists, plants, hand-picked crowds, and the like are owned by the GOP. Hillary needs to send the Rethuglicans a check for her use of their property.
 

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  posted on 11/11/2007 at 11:46 AM
I will say this to Ann's point...they alll do it. Clinton always called on that little Helen lady first at everyone of his press conferences. You get a few softballs to loosen you up then you venture on to the tough questions.
Then Bush got in office and moved her to the back of the Conference Room.

 

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The crowd is mostly booing at this point. "I came for a concert," one man behind me yelled. "Refund. Refund," another chanted a few rows back. One person in the crowd made this observation: "Are they booing Edwards specifically or booing because they don't like politics?"





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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 09:13 AM
Minor note to Dutch: Helen Thomas is a legitimate journalist who does not ask softball questions, nor is she a "plant". She has, for years, sat in the front row of the press briefing room and asked the first question. This was due to her senioority and the respect of the other journalist in the room. She asked blistering questions of Bill during the Lewinsky scandal. She was moved from the front row position by the current administration specifically because she would not serve up fluff to the President. When her status was re-instated, she thanked the Prersident for having done so. She then proceeded to ask him tough questiions on his Iraq policies. If all journalist were that dogged and determined our country would be in better shape.
 

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I have a problem with it no matter whether it is Bush or Hillary. I've stated before, history may prove him right on certain fronts, or wrong.


Oh horse shiat. The Bush administration PAID newspapers here and in Iraq to print "good stories". They have had the most loaded press conferences in the history of politics. Does Jeff Gannon ring a bell? I dont recall one word from you about any of that except perhaps a "they screwed up"...well duh, but how do YOU feel about being misled and lied to? We all know they screwed up, but the difference is in how you take it.

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However, in my opinion, Bush is one of the most inane communicating presidents that we've ever had.


Thanks for the heads-up, Captain Obvious.

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I've watched 80 percent of David Letterman's nightly 'Great Moments In Presidential Speeches," and I laugh and cringe every time Bush takes the mic. But is he the worst president as far as speeches go? Nope, as I just listened to a Jimmah Carter speech recently from the 1970's and it was Deputy Dog, down in the dumps, negative BS.


LOL... wow. Without context its hard to understand what you mean, but Im wagering that you much prefer the ego stroking, flag waving nonsense coming out of Bushs mouth, even as idiotic as he sounds, than to hear another President maybe talk about something you dont agree with? Call me crazy...

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Anyway, I don't like it on any side. But isn't this a new day?? When is the anti-BS new regime going to take place?? It is times like this when Ron Paul makes the most sense.

DH


You dont like it on any side, but you only speak up when its coming from the Left.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 09:29 AM
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Minor note to Dutch: Helen Thomas is a legitimate journalist who does not ask softball questions, nor is she a "plant". She has, for years, sat in the front row of the press briefing room and asked the first question. This was due to her senioority and the respect of the other journalist in the room. She asked blistering questions of Bill during the Lewinsky scandal. She was moved from the front row position by the current administration specifically because she would not serve up fluff to the President. When her status was re-instated, she thanked the Prersident for having done so. She then proceeded to ask him tough questiions on his Iraq policies. If all journalist were that dogged and determined our country would be in better shape.


Saved me a post! Thank you. I find it funny that Dutch wont acknowledge the bubble around Bush, but will dog a journalist who has been in the press room since, I believe, before JFK, asking questions of the President, whoever they may be.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 11:52 AM
We need to stop picking on Derek....he's just a really confused fellow....that's all.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 12:26 PM
Just note the source. Fox News stirring up the pot. Keeping the old folks informed.

 

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Ha! Yeah boy. The last thing I am is confused. Apparently, it is OK if Hillary does it because the Republicans have done it as well. But, isn't this about a new way of doing things?? What happened to that with the coronation of Billary??? The old way of doing business in Washington is over??? I thought Hillary was a 'change agent'?

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Minor note to Dutch: Helen Thomas is a legitimate journalist who does not ask softball questions, nor is she a "plant". She has, for years, sat in the front row of the press briefing room and asked the first question. This was due to her senioority and the respect of the other journalist in the room. She asked blistering questions of Bill during the Lewinsky scandal. She was moved from the front row position by the current administration specifically because she would not serve up fluff to the President. When her status was re-instated, she thanked the Prersident for having done so. She then proceeded to ask him tough questiions on his Iraq policies. If all journalist were that dogged and determined our country would be in better shape.


Saved me a post! Thank you. I find it funny that Dutch wont acknowledge the bubble around Bush, but will dog a journalist who has been in the press room since, I believe, before JFK, asking questions of the President, whoever they may be.


Helen Thomas, thank you.couldn't think of her name. And ST, don't for one minute even think you know what I'm thinking or what I will or will not acknowledege because it reinfoces your belief system.
I know all Presidents have their comfort zones, ther 'safe' go to people for questions. They all do it, lets not make it sound like this is just happening in Bush's bubble.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 04:17 PM
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Ever really seen a George Bush press conference? Like planting questioners is a new thing!!! Not!!!


Hell, they won't even let you anywhere near Prez W., (let alone a press conference), if you're not a supporter. You have to be out of sight and about 3 miles away from him if you aren't one of his groupies. Nah....there are no "planted" audience/press members when Mr Prez starts to spew forth his nonsense.....sure lolol



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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 04:29 PM
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Mellencamp, standing alone on stage with his guitar, then launched into Tough It Out and Be the Best You Can followed by Jesus Can You Give Me a Ride Back Home? and another song about youth and love. The crowd erupted as he started Small Town and sang the lyrics as though Wells Fargo Arena were one of those sing-along piano bars.

It's at this point Mellencamp gestures and John Edwards walks on stage. After a few cheers boos overtake the hall. "I've been in your small towns," Edwards said as Mellencamp stepped aside to give Edwards a place behind the microphone. "...You didn't come here to listen to me," Edwards continues as he winds down with a "thank you," waves and walks to the darkened edge of the stage.

The crowd is mostly booing at this point. "I came for a concert," one man behind me yelled. "Refund. Refund," another chanted a few rows back. One person in the crowd made this observation: "Are they booing Edwards specifically or booing because they don't like politics?" Mellencamp tells the crowd he's "had a lot of fun with that guy," and begins playing his guitar and singing Small Town again. The crowd slowly begins to sing along again. Edwards stood on the darkened edge of the stage until the song was over, then exited. Mellencamp didn't say anything at the song's end, and there was a swell of chatter among the audience members.


I was there. John Edwards did not just come out he was invited out by Mellencamp. There were more cheers than boos and Edwards did not stay on stage long...he seemed embarrassed to me. So, this was Mellencamp who invited Edwards out and the whole incident took all of maybe 1 minute. All of these politicians are all over this state right now because of caucauses - Edwards didn't just happen to fly in for this concert - he was already in town. For the record - I pay my concert dollars to see a concert not a political campaign but I wasn't real offended by this brief appearance - there was no political discussion or campaigning (aside from Mellencamp's invite making it seem that he was an Edwards supporter). Mellencamp did not spend any time going into a pro-John speech and I didn't hear any specific negative comments like RefundRefund but it was pretty crowded. These articles make it sound like a much more dramatic incident than the blip it actually was.

 

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Helen Thomas, thank you.couldn't think of her name. And ST, don't for one minute even think you know what I'm thinking or what I will or will not acknowledege because it reinfoces your belief system.
I know all Presidents have their comfort zones, ther 'safe' go to people for questions. They all do it, lets not make it sound like this is just happening in Bush's bubble.


The Bush supporters, like you, wont ever admit that this guy is the "boy in the bubble" and has been far more than probably any other president in modern history. He tolerates no bad news, has good news created for him if none exists and the amount of yes men and sycophants is astonishing. Dont agree with him or wont tell him what he wants to hear? Removed, reassigned or retired. Yeah, all presidents do it to some extent, but this guy is simply unable to deal with reality.

 

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Good ole Slickster,

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Bill Clinton Says 'Boys' Tough on Wife

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) - Former President Clinton said Monday his wife can handle the criticism from her presidential rivals even though " those boys have been getting tough on her lately."

Clinton's comment comes amid debate as to whether the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign's complaints about her rivals' "piling on" suggest the criticism is directed at the lone woman in the presidential race or the Democratic front-runner. Last week, Bill Clinton, in defense of his wife against political critics, cited the "swift boat" television ads of the 2004 presidential campaign that questioned John Kerry's patriotism and the campaign commercials in 2002 that suggested Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia was soft on terrorism.

Several Democratic candidates said they were surprised by the analogy.

"It's a great time to be a Democrat," Bill Clinton told more than 800 students and supporters at Trident Technical College. "Even though those boys have been getting tough on her lately, she can handle it."

Clinton said he loves campaigning for his wife and paying back for all those years she campaigned for him for governor of Arkansas and president.

"She says I have to work hard because free campaign help is hard to come by," Clinton quipped.

Clinton said that his wife's positions on education, health care, the economy and international affairs make her the best qualified candidate to be president.

The United States needs to get out of Iraq, but "we have to do it in a way that doesn't leave it worse than it is now," he said. "Hillary was the first to ask the Pentagon for a plan for orderly withdrawal."

The nation must restore its standing in the world, something Clinton said has been damaged during the Bush administration.

"They think we act alone whenever we can and cooperate only when we have to," he said, adding that his wife will seek to cooperate first and have the United States act alone only when necessary.

The reason the nation can't enforce tough trade regulations with the Chinese is because they are now America's banker, Bill Clinton said.

"When was the last time you got tough on your banker?" he asked the crowd.



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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 04:49 PM
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I was there. John Edwards did not just come out he was invited out by Mellencamp. There were more cheers than boos and Edwards did not stay on stage long...he seemed embarrassed to me. So, this was Mellencamp who invited Edwards out and the whole incident took all of maybe 1 minute. All of these politicians are all over this state right now because of caucauses - Edwards didn't just happen to fly in for this concert - he was already in town. For the record - I pay my concert dollars to see a concert not a political campaign but I wasn't real offended by this brief appearance - there was no political discussion or campaigning (aside from Mellencamp's invite making it seem that he was an Edwards supporter). Mellencamp did not spend any time going into a pro-John speech and I didn't hear any specific negative comments like RefundRefund but it was pretty crowded. These articles make it sound like a much more dramatic incident than the blip it actually was.


How strange... so youre saying it might have been misrepresented by some guy and his blog? Wonders will never cease.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2007 at 04:51 PM
OMG!!11 Bill Clinton said "boys". Oh thats it..Im not voting for him.

 

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