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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 05:27 PM
Check this out post from Gregg's Website; this is unbelievable:

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Last night at the HOB in New Orleans I was forced to take my gear down and leave. There were two of us there setting up to record and security came and escorted us out. They told us that Greg didnt allow taping. We both explain to them that he not only allowed taping but encouraged it. This helped in no way. So we waited at the artist entrance and asked crew (monitor guy was the only one that was nice) walking in and they said the same thing "Greg doesn't allow taping". I even spoke to the road manager getting off the bus and he told me he has been with Greg for years and Greg personally does not like people recording his shows and never allows it. I told the guy that I had taped Greg solo many times and never had a problem and that his website also says he allows recording. This guy told me no way and was very rude. I will never go see Greg solo after last night. I drove 2 hrs and the guy I met there to tape with flew in from Main. Is this what Greg really wants to happen to fans that come to see him? If he no longer wants tapers at his shows why not put it on his website, you know make it known, so I dont hall my expensive gear to his shows only to have to leave it in the car in one of the most crime infested city's in the world in order to watch the show I spent $44.00 to see. I dont want to come off wrong here like some kind of ass. I love Greg. I am a huge fan. I just hate being ejected from a show for doing what I have done before especially when there are so rude about it. I was going to go tape the Vicksburg show also. That wont be happing now. Sorry for the long rant...

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 05:40 PM
Gregg recently changed his policy on taping.

No more Duct Tape allowed at his shows.

Due to a recent incident in Texas.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 05:40 PM
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Gregg recently changed his policy on taping.

No more Duct Tape allowed at his shows.

Due to a recent incident in Texas.
ROTFLMAO!!! oh mitzi!!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 05:45 PM
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Gregg recently changed his policy on taping.

No more Duct Tape allowed at his shows.

Due to a recent incident in Texas.
ROTFLMAO!!! oh mitzi!!!!!


I didn't hurt him...much. At least I don't THINK so. I couldn't catch him to find out. Damn, he runs fast!

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 05:54 PM
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That letter reeks of entitlement. You pay for a concert ticket and you get the right to see the show, nothing more. If the artist doesn't want you to tape their stuff, then you should respect that. If they do, then that's awesome and I am grateful to the people who take the time and effort to record.
Agree here - the practice of allowing taping is a priviledge and there are many more artists who disallow than those who allow.

[Edited on 11/6/2007 by lolasdeb]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 06:02 PM
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That letter reeks of entitlement. You pay for a concert ticket and you get the right to see the show, nothing more. If the artist doesn't want you to tape their stuff, then you should respect that. If they do, then that's awesome and I am grateful to the people who take the time and effort to record. I also realize that in this case it was a change in policy, and the venue staff certainly could have been more respectful. But that doesn't change the fact that this guy has no real right to complain. Just because he didn't get his tape, he's never going to see Gregg again? Gimme a break. The tone suggests that because he paid 44 dollars, he is entitled to make a recording, and that somehow denying him this "right" shows that Gregg doesn't care about his fans. I'm sorry but I'm not about to shed any tears for the tape that never was.


I'm gonna agree here....of course. Gregory has the right to deny taping. It's his gig. Taping is indeed a privilege for which I will admit I am grateful for; but it is just that...a privilege not a right. Should've contacted the venue beforehand. So this guy's never gonna see Gregory again. OH WELL!! His loss. Cuz this last tour was KILLER!

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 06:06 PM
But I can understand someone being disgruntled because they planned to tape a show whose artist taping policy allowed taping, and then were told the artist just changed their policy

http://www.greggallman.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Calendar&fil e=showCalendarMonth&tapers=3&showtapes=2

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 06:07 PM
Gregg is just enforcing a policy that has always been a part of his solo shows. And if it weren't for Kirk West there would be very, very few ABB shows in circulation. The ABB, has a whole are not taper friendly.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 06:33 PM
sorry, that suck's, but we can tape abb
 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 07:44 PM
I also think HOB has a pretty strict no-taping policy at all their locations.

And coincidentally, it was just discussed in the GA forum about two weeks ago:

http://www.allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&fi le=viewthread&tid=67863

[Edited on 11/7/2007 by absnj]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 08:16 PM
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I also think HOB has a pretty strict no-taping policy at all their locations.


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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 08:52 PM
Here is the reason why I suspect that Gregg does not allow taping...

He does the same exact show every night!!!

A great example for me was seeing Eric Clapton on his last tour. By the time he finally rolled around to these parts I had already heard several bootlegs and had the setlist memorized. I will freely admit that it took a lot of the fun out of seeing what was an absolutely fantastic concert.

The recent proliferation of live tapes from artists that perform the same set every night does tend to spoil the magic. Of course it is different for bands that mix up the set every night, but they are the exception.

Having said that, I suspect this to be a large part of Gregg's no-taper policy.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 09:04 PM
I always felt that the main reason most artists have a no-taping policy is that if they have an off night they do not want a sub-par performance of them circulating.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2007 at 10:41 PM
I don't think most artists want good nights out there, unless they are getting a cut. Not that I blame them.

We are very lucky to be part of a "family" that allows taping of our favorite bands. For the most part.

And for the reasons stated above I fully understand why Gregg would not want his shows recorded.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 06:39 PM
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Gregg is just enforcing a policy that has always been a part of his solo shows. And if it weren't for Kirk West there would be very, very few ABB shows in circulation. The ABB, has a whole are not taper friendly.



Clay, its funny! You, Dave, and I had this same conversation sitting outside the JFD between acts. It was cool getting to meet you at JFD! You had me rolling at that Mexican restaurant! Hope to see ya at Wanee!

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 06:55 PM
I was actually under the impression Gregg did not allow taping. Warren, on the other hand, is EXTREMELY taper friendly as we all know.

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 06:58 PM
According to Clay, Doug you are right! I always thought that he didn't allow it too!

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 07:19 PM
When I've seen him solo they always announce beforehand that there is to be no taping.



Just in case he misses a lyric or twelve.

Heh heh.





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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 08:04 PM
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I always felt that the main reason most artists have a no-taping policy is that if they have an off night they do not want a sub-par performance of them circulating.


Off night? Sub par performances, if a musician is not able to go out there and provide a level of show acceptable by his own standards, then he should cancel it. Derek never has any sub par shows, he makes sure he is ready and able to play at the level expected of him. He always surpasses everyone's expectations, and there's no reason anybody else should do any less.

By the way, Gregg has said that he's the biggest nitpicker in ABB, so I don't think he would be putting on any sub par shows with his own band.

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 09:18 PM
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I always felt that the main reason most artists have a no-taping policy is that if they have an off night they do not want a sub-par performance of them circulating.


Off night? Sub par performances, if a musician is not able to go out there and provide a level of show acceptable by his own standards, then he should cancel it. Derek never has any sub par shows, he makes sure he is ready and able to play at the level expected of him. He always surpasses everyone's expectations, and there's no reason anybody else should do any less.

By the way, Gregg has said that he's the biggest nitpicker in ABB, so I don't think he would be putting on any sub par shows with his own band.

[Edited on 11/14/2007 by gina]


Can you say Fax Machine?

Wouldn't put our sub par, have you listened to Peakin at the Beacon?

 

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  posted on 11/13/2007 at 09:54 PM
you know, I have never heard Peakin' At The Beacon. In skydog though, I heard it wasn't good.


At all.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2007 at 12:12 AM
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Here is the reason why I suspect that Gregg does not allow taping...

He does the same exact show every night!!!


Have to totally agree here, Boss. A bunch of us thought the same thing when we brought up this post in conversation. Love Gregg, but for that reason, I'll never catch a 'run' of shows on any given tour.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2007 at 08:49 AM
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you know, I have never heard Peakin' At The Beacon. In skydog though, I heard it wasn't good.


At all.



Well, it has its moments. Or, moment. It's OK - I don't find it to be as horrendously awful as some people on here make it out to be, but let's just say that if I had heard that the ABB was the best damn band you can see live, period, and this was my first introduction to them, I would just laugh and turn it off.


As for the original topic, I'm sort of surprised to hear that Gregg doesn't like taping, although I guess it sort of makes sense. What about his solo tours in the 70s?

 

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  posted on 11/14/2007 at 09:54 AM
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you know, I have never heard Peakin' At The Beacon. In skydog though, I heard it wasn't good.


At all.


I think Peakin' is more noted for it's awful sound quality than for it's awful performances. The audience recordings of the Beacon 2000 run sound infinitely better, and I have no idea why. I know the album was a rush-job, and that is probably at least part of it.

As far as performances, I have the entire run on CD. It really is not as bad as people say. There are some rough spots, yes, but it's not just Dickey that is messing up. No, I am not trying to start "that old debate" again, so please let it be.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2007 at 11:21 AM
Many people who pick on Peakin' are the people collecting shows and just know there are stronger shows or what the band is capable of.

Gregg has said often that he doesn't like taping but the band can't really stop it after all these years. They don't want to drive away the core fanbase that has been around for a long time.

I had thought that the IL's might end the recording era but it doesn't seem to have done that which is nice.

You also have to remember that the vast majority of acts don't allow recording so many staff/venues are not used to it. I have seen it cause confusion at many shows. Either at the entrance where they don't allow the equipment in or at the seats after it is set up. Have seen some rigs go up and down a few times.

 
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