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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:05 PM
SAN RAFAEL, California (AP) -- Carlos Santana and his wife of 34 years are divorcing, according to court documents.
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Deborah Santana, who in her 2005 memoir "Space Between the Stars" described her guitarist husband as being unfaithful, filed for divorce in Marin County Superior Court on October 19, citing irreconcilable differences.

Carlos Santana's publicist, Michael Jensen, said the case is "a private matter and there is no comment."

The musician has said he knew he made mistakes in his marriage.

"I sincerely apologized to her and to my kids when I wasn't in my right mind and did something hurtful," Carlos Santana said after the memoir was published. "It has helped me become more humble and to try harder to be the man she wants me to be."

The Santanas have also been business partners. They created the Milagro Foundation, a nonprofit organization that supports underprivileged children.

Earlier this year, they announced plans to create three Mexican restaurants in the San Francisco Bay area named Maria, Maria after one of Carlos Santana's Grammy-winning songs.

The couple have three children, ages 17, 22 and 23.

[Edited on 11/3/2007 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:10 PM
Thats a shame....

This is the song that turned me onto Santana..... they have made some very sexy music..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3_zF2lmvZQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnamP4-M9ko

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:20 PM
It is a crying shame indeed!

Rainy, I agree and love the songs you posted but my ultimate would have to be this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoGpyvIqP8

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:21 PM
Oh yeah Sue very good one.... I could keep going on this topic.... Love Carlos...

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:29 PM
It just shows that even our musical heroes are just human, and make mistakes like all of us.

I personally do not ever care about the personal lives of my favorite musicians, and feel better off not knowing if they're married, divorced, single, how many children they have, etc. All I care is about the great music they created, and let their personal lives be just that....

Seems like the celebrities whose personal lives the public know most about are the Britney Spears tabloid trash. I have to hear about it all the time and I'd rather not know at all.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:34 PM
It is a real shame after 35 years, I suspect this was a bit more than a mistake for her to take it this level.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:40 PM
admire and love the art..the artists are people..just like you and me..

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 06:48 PM
You know people need to realize that famous people, are just people like any of the rest of us. Just because thay have some degree of talent and noterity doesn't make them any better or any worse than the rest of us. They're human too. Unfortuantely, people like to put people like "Carlos Santana" on pedestals, which they shouldn't. I love Carlos Santana's music and the message that he tries to send through his music. Any no one should try to take that away from him just because he's human and has made some very human mistakes (haven't we all). He's a man, just like anybody else, and subject to the same tempations as any other man. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his wife and his family on what must be a very difficult time for all of them.
 
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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 07:08 PM
Don't get me wrong here I would never stop listening to his music because of this what I am saying is that I think after 35 years it would be a little more involved than a one time slip. Actually famous musicians or even semi famous ones are under a lot more pressure then say the average Joe when it comes to this sort of thing. It is really unbelievable what some women won't do to sleep with one, they have that stuff down to a fine science. Personally I feel sorry for them both it must be heartbreaking for them and their children.

 

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You know people need to realize that famous people, are just people like any of the rest of us. Just because thay have some degree of talent and noterity doesn't make them any better or any worse than the rest of us. They're human too.


Glad you brought that up man......I would have never figured it out. I just threw the article out there. Not trying to step on anyones toes. Excuse me. No more tabloid articles from me.

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 07:33 PM
>>>It is really unbelievable what some women won't do to sleep with one, they have that stuff down to a fine science.>>>

That is an interesting comment.

People, men and women, are either going to break a trust in their marriage or they are not, no matter if they are famous or not.

As for the media scrutiny, it will happen. I personally don't read more than the headlines of things to be generally informed but I certainly don't care about the private lives of anyone in the media, famous or not. Certainly not in any personal way.

It is always sad when people cause pain to their family.

I would bet that there are many more reasons than infidelity that lead a 35 year marriage to end.

I hope the Santana's can find happiness and peace.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 07:57 PM


How about some Carlos Santana and Buddy Miles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntQDO3YCmPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv10g5YKNDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszBce_do1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JOL-ykk-Zs

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>>>It is really unbelievable what some women won't do to sleep with one, they have that stuff down to a fine science.>>>

That is an interesting comment.

People, men and women, are either going to break a trust in their marriage or they are not, no matter if they are famous or not.


Well I think they tend to be more vulnerable being away from their wives or girlfriends for long periods and more likely to be caught out when their defenses are down. It is one of the hazards of the trade so to speak and a savvy female will capitalize on that vulnerability, it happens quite a bit. You are less likely to be in such a vulnerable position if you are not away from home for such long stretches.

[Edited on 11/3/2007 by PattyG]

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 08:31 PM
i feel said for the santana family,i hope this doesn't end in bitterness.i allways leave santana concerts with great vibes.
 

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i feel said for the santana family,i hope this doesn't end in bitterness.i allways leave santana concerts with great vibes.


Never seen him live....but love his music.

I hope things turn out okay for all of them....34 years is a damn long time for famous folks (or anybody to be honest)...you know what I mean.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 09:18 PM
Women are always throwing themselves at rock stars -- the temptation for a quickie with one of these willing fillies is constant & ongoing, it's all part of the music scene -- the good vibe

Hopefully Carlos was faithful most of the time -- I'm sure he did the best he could, especially with as beautiful of a woman as his wife is -- it must be hurtful for the entire family

 

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If rock stars can't make it work what hope is there for the rest of us? ;-)

Maybe she's tired of watching him sell out. Seriously, I dig his 60s stuff, but as soon as I hear the first millisecond of the drum beat that kicks off "Smooth" and I feel like shoving a hot, rusty spike in my head before I hear any more. A friend of mine in the music biz says that as soon as some artist gets hot, Carlos' agent is on the phone offering to play on their next single. I don't blame a guy for trying to make some money, but I think Aerosmith has more artistic integrity at this point - at least they sell out independently and don't try to fool themselves (and the rest of us) into thinking that they're not.

[Edited on 11/3/2007 by porkchopbob]

 

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  posted on 11/2/2007 at 10:55 PM
Gitano, from the Amigos album, is my favorite Santana tune -- those congas & timbales -- a Latin percussion freakout

 

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Women are always throwing themselves at rock stars -- the temptation for a quickie with one of these willing fillies is constant & ongoing, it's all part of the music scene -- the good vibe

Hopefully Carlos was faithful most of the time -- I'm sure he did the best he could, especially with as beautiful of a woman as his wife is -- it must be hurtful for the entire family





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If you lose your money, great God, don't lose your mind.
If you lose your money, great God, don't lose your mind.
And if you lose your woman, please don't fool with mine.

I'm gonna buy me a bulldog, watch my lady whilst I sleep.
I'm gonna buy me a bulldog, watch my lady whilst I sleep.
'Cause women these days, they're so doggone crooked,
That they might make a 'fore day creep.

Well, you can't watch your wife and your outside women, too.
You know you can't watch your wife and your outside womens, too.
Cause when you're out with your women, your wife will be at home,
Cooking your food, doing your dirt, buddy what you trying to do?

You can't watch your wife and your outside womens, too.
You know you can't watch your wife and your outside women, too.
When you're out with your women, your wife will be at home,
Doing your dirt, cooking your food, buddy what you trying to do?

 

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  posted on 11/3/2007 at 02:35 PM
I'm hearing that it was the Che Guevara bed sheets that sent her over the edge.

 

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If rock stars can't make it work what hope is there for the rest of us? ;-)

Maybe she's tired of watching him sell out. Seriously, I dig his 60s stuff, but as soon as I hear the first millisecond of the drum beat that kicks off "Smooth" and I feel like shoving a hot, rusty spike in my head before I hear any more. A friend of mine in the music biz says that as soon as some artist gets hot, Carlos' agent is on the phone offering to play on their next single. I don't blame a guy for trying to make some money, but I think Aerosmith has more artistic integrity at this point - at least they sell out independently and don't try to fool themselves (and the rest of us) into thinking that they're not.

[Edited on 11/3/2007 by porkchopbob]


Bob I respectfully disagree. Supernatural and Shaman are Clive Davis's makings which Carlos willingly went along with all the way to the top. Any artist of yesteryear to be able to release a record on a major label has to be paired with other popular artists in the minds of exec's. The success of Supernatural and Shaman is to blame. The thought is that nobody today won't know who the ABB is if the aren't dueting with Brooks and Dunn, Britney, etc. ad naus ...

 

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  posted on 11/3/2007 at 10:09 PM
Carlos just proves with his recent outings, that he can play some hot guitar licks with anyone in any genre....

I hope he and the wife can find peace...

I love Carlos....

 

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Bob I respectfully disagree. Supernatural and Shaman are Clive Davis's makings which Carlos willingly went along with all the way to the top. Any artist of yesteryear to be able to release a record on a major label has to be paired with other popular artists in the minds of exec's. The success of Supernatural and Shaman is to blame. The thought is that nobody today won't know who the ABB is if the aren't dueting with Brooks and Dunn, Britney, etc. ad naus ...


Well, everyone here knows who the Allmans are (and Derek, Warren, Oteil, etc) sans Clive Davis' help and they have yet to feel the need to team with Brooks & Dunn (which is a strange reference, they're probably in need of a comeback themselves, I haven't heard their name called in 10 years). In fact, when the Allmans paired with Clive Davis (who does have many success stories) we got Brothers of the Road and Reach for the Sky.

You haveve really just reiterated my point, Carlos had to sell out and latch on to an up and coming artist in order to get a pay day from a major record label, rather than do his own thing. Clive Davis is a savvy record exec, admitted, but he didn't put a gun to Carlos' head, and he certainly isn't the one calling up every other up and coming artist offering to sit in on their next album. I don't blame Carlos for trying to get paid, but artistic integrity has definitely been "sacrificed."

 

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It is one of the hazards of the trade so to speak and a savvy female will capitalize on that vulnerability
[Edited on 11/3/2007 by PattyG]


Is this from the voice of experience?

 

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If rock stars can't make it work what hope is there for the rest of us? ;-)

Maybe she's tired of watching him sell out. Seriously, I dig his 60s stuff, but as soon as I hear the first millisecond of the drum beat that kicks off "Smooth" and I feel like shoving a hot, rusty spike in my head before I hear any more. A friend of mine in the music biz says that as soon as some artist gets hot, Carlos' agent is on the phone offering to play on their next single. I don't blame a guy for trying to make some money, but I think Aerosmith has more artistic integrity at this point - at least they sell out independently and don't try to fool themselves (and the rest of us) into thinking that they're not.

[Edited on 11/3/2007 by porkchopbob]


Bob I respectfully disagree. Supernatural and Shaman are Clive Davis's makings which Carlos willingly went along with all the way to the top. Any artist of yesteryear to be able to release a record on a major label has to be paired with other popular artists in the minds of exec's. The success of Supernatural and Shaman is to blame. The thought is that nobody today won't know who the ABB is if the aren't dueting with Brooks and Dunn, Britney, etc. ad naus ...



I agree too. Supernatural was great. Over 12 Million legal copies sold world wide. All 12 million people can't be wrong. Clive is a good producer.

And if you can remember the summer that Abraxas hit? Black Magic Woman and Oye Como Va were tremendous hits. Santana was probably overwhelmed with his meteoritic rise to fame. He screwed up. He did drugs. His wife helped him get on track at least in terms of the drugs. They got into believing in a "mystic" person which brought them to another curve in the road. They almost lost all their money. Clive helped them not loose everything. Santana was always a big deal rock star (as well as a big deal in the Latin community) and a well respected guitarist. It just took him a long time to get back to where he started fame wise in 1970 and 1969 with Evil Ways.

 

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