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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 10:23 AM
I know that the Beatles are a love or hate type of band for a lot of people, I am in the grouping that loves them after finding my dad's albums in sixth grade, but I realized another reason why they were so good today. I was listening to "Oh Darling" and I noticed how great the backup vocals are in this song. As I thought about it a second, a lot of their songs have great vocals that are not the primary ones in the song on many of their tracks.....and it really helps to create a fuller sound. It was just that I never really heard this until today. What do y'all think and what is your opinion of this classic band?
 
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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 10:36 AM
I've always been a huge fan of The Beatles, but occasionally fall into the trap of being so passe about them because of their popularity. But, listening to their music never gets old for me, I enjoy every song they have ever done, which I don't think I can say about any other band. When I listen to their music, really listen, and remember when it was done, I can't help but go "Whoa". So much that they did back then really was ahead of its time. A lot of this can be said about the Beach Boys also.
 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 11:02 AM
I just don't see too many bands or acts of their generation whose material is going to stand the test of time like that of the Beatles. The difference between their music and most of their contemporaries is like "hits vs. standards". "Yesterday", "Eleanor Rigby", "All You Need is Love", "All My Loving" - the list is almost endless. Those songs will be listened to ... many years from now.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 12:20 PM
Listen carefully to Paulís main vocal on "oh darling" he was not happy with it initially so on the second part of it he over dubbed it after he had woke up and came to the studio directly without talking. This allowed that raspy sound. The Background Vocals are him and Goerge overdubbed which in inspired George to create his own overdub choir for "all things must pass". Simply genius of perfection and hard work by guys who cared about what they did. To this day they do not have to re- re release digitally remixed versions of the Music to enhance their sound.
i came home not long ago to my 16 yr daughter and friends listening to SGT Peppers loud. They loved it and it was true first time discovery for them.

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 12:30 PM
The Beatles and their music, like the ABB, are so ingrained that it's a part of who I am, as a person and musician. And like some have mentioned, their harmonies were great, I listen to certain songs just to hear them.
 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 12:54 PM
The BeaTles harmonies are so good, TRM, that one time I was driving my cousin cross-state, and she and I were singing along with a BeaTles tape, and I totally missed this fork in the interstate that I'd taken scores of times, and we didn't realize it until we were halfway to Chicago instead.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 01:47 PM
The Beatles went from being a badass little barrroom band playing covers eight hours a day in German waterfront dives to being an intergalactic rock'n'roll orchestra that set a standard for recording achievement by a two-guitar, bass and drum outfit that has yet to even be approached let alone surpassed, in my opinion. And I firmly believe that the foundation was laid for their greatness by being a great tough live band because they played rock'n'roll those eight-hour days for months on end. I can only imagine how, when they got back to Liverpool, they were blowing the windows out of those clubs full of postwar teenagers looking to party.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 01:57 PM
I know I'm in the minority but The Beatles have never done it for me. Sure they have some catchy Pop Tunes and Great Writing. But some of there lyrics never made
sence to me and the music was a little out there at times.

But my main reason for not being a fan is there Live Show.
Now I never saw them but from what I've seen and read.............They played 30
minute concerts with girls screaming so loudly that you probably couldn't tell if they
even sounded good. 30 minutes!?!?!....................The Allman Brothers play SONGS
that last longer than 30 minutes!

Now I know, as someone who never saw the Beatles that I really shoudn't have an
opinion....................but I do

If anyone hear ever saw them play, I'd love to hear about it.
For all I know, They may have been great LIVE.

 

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I know I'm in the minority but The Beatles have never done it for me. Sure they have some catchy Pop Tunes and Great Writing. But some of there lyrics never made
sence to me and the music was a little out there at times.

But my main reason for not being a fan is there Live Show.
Now I never saw them but from what I've seen and read.............They played 30
minute concerts with girls screaming so loudly that you probably couldn't tell if they
even sounded good. 30 minutes!?!?!....................The Allman Brothers play SONGS
that last longer than 30 minutes!

Now I know, as someone who never saw the Beatles that I really shoudn't have an
opinion....................but I do

If anyone hear ever saw them play, I'd love to hear about it.
For all I know, They may have been great LIVE.


It was a different time. The Beatles themselves hated those live stadium shows which is why they stopped performing live. The fact is that no songwriting team in history has ever written as many great songs in such a short period as Lennon-McCartney. Beyond all the innovation and greatness of their recordings, it is the songs that make the Beatles as timeless as they are.

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 02:31 PM
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It was a different time. The Beatles themselves hated those live stadium shows which is why they stopped performing live. The fact is that no songwriting team in history has ever written as many great songs in such a short period as Lennon-McCartney. Beyond all the innovation and greatness of their recordings, it is the songs that make the Beatles as timeless as they are.

Doug


Absolutely. And, the other principal songwriter in the band was George Harrison. He wasn't bad, either.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 02:57 PM
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It was a different time. The Beatles themselves hated those live stadium shows which is why they stopped performing live. The fact is that no songwriting team in history has ever written as many great songs in such a short period as Lennon-McCartney. Beyond all the innovation and greatness of their recordings, it is the songs that make the Beatles as timeless as they are.

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well put doug,could you imagine if they were touring now!,havin' seen paul live,i can vouch that the show was awsome.i have been listening to the Beatles music for over...man,must be 40 years,i cant say that about any other band.


 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 03:22 PM
I listen to the Beatles every day.

as far as background vocals, I agree, Multi-grammy award winning producer Brian Eno says
"everything sounds better with background vocals"


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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 03:37 PM
The Beatles made their reputation at first as live rockers in Hamburg and Liverpool. There are some rough recordings that show how much energy they put out pre-Beatlemania.

As previously noted, the Beatles hated their live shows after '64. Take a look at what they were up against. In the middle of Shea Stadium, they were using less equipment than a lot of bands take into a nightclub today! No monitors or side fill speakers; it was impossible to hear yourself before the crowd started screaming.

If you listen to the rooftop concert on the EMI studios that ends the movie Let It Be, you get a glimpse of what might have been. With Billy Preston on keys, the Beatles played a great set to the business district(in January, yet!) that got the cops called on them. Now that's rock and roll!

If the Beatles had been able to tour with a decent sound system and a couple of good backing musicians like Preston, they could have put on some great shows. But by the time sound technology caught up to their needs it was too late.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 06:35 PM
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It was a different time. The Beatles themselves hated those live stadium shows which is why they stopped performing live. The fact is that no songwriting team in history has ever written as many great songs in such a short period as Lennon-McCartney. Beyond all the innovation and greatness of their recordings, it is the songs that make the Beatles as timeless as they are.

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well put doug,could you imagine if they were touring now!,havin' seen paul live,i can vouch that the show was awsome.i have been listening to the Beatles music for over...man,must be 40 years,i cant say that about any other band.




Actually, if you know their history, the Beatles were actually pretty fine live performers, having honed their chops in endless sets in Hamburg and at the Cavern in Liverpool. They were known as a great live band. The fruits of their extreme popularity made quality performances impossible in the mid sixties. Today it would be different. Don't forget, the ABB played those great shows in small theaters and college gymnasiums, something that would be simply impossible for the Beatles.

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 07:13 PM
The Beatles honed their skills and talent from 1960 to 63 in Hamburg. Performing up to 7 hours at a clip with very little break time. Just think of that! God I would love to have seen that

Professionalism in how to act on stage was not in their repertoire until Brian Epstein got a hold of them. From 63(they where superstars in UK already) to 66 they became the Cheeky boys we became to know and love. Brian was very protective of their image. Without the grind of touring we really got to see what they could do with their talent from 1966 on starting with Rubber Soul(my favorite album)

Remember these guys made 13 albums in 7 years! (Let it be was already in the can when they released it 1970.) Unheard of!

Listen to Because for harmonies. Probably their best. It was tracked over three times to make 9 part harmony.

Yeah I like the Beatles

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 07:21 PM
The Beatles were my favorite band for a short time in my life probably in between Led Zeppelin and my discover of Floyd and Yes. This love affair - though brief, was the result of my youngest uncle (ten years older than me) giving me the White Album, the "Blue" greatest hits package, and the "Red" greatest hits package all at the same time one Christmas.

So, while I'll only spin some Beatles now maybe once a month or so, what always impressed me the most about them was how vastly their sound and style developed in just 6 years or so.

Wow.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2007 at 11:27 PM
John's and Paul's voices were a match made in heaven for harmony -- Every Little Thing -- We Can Work It Out -- Eight Days A Week -- I Don't Want To Spoil The Party -- and on and on...

What also made them so amazing was their various phases -- from the leather-clad bar band to the lovable moptops to the hippes era -- staying true to themselves the whole time & the music never once suffered

Rubber Soul & Revolver are special to me because they are the bridge between the teenybopper moptops and the LSD hippie era -- it's all good but these two are so incredibly timeless...

This thread makes me miss Susie (music10), she digs the Beatles so much

 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 06:48 AM
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This thread makes me miss Susie (music10), she digs the Beatles so much


Yes it does

 

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The Beatles honed their skills and talent from 1960 to 63 in Hamburg. Performing up to 7 hours at a clip with very little break time. Just think of that! God I would love to have seen that

Professionalism in how to act on stage was not in their repertoire until Brian Epstein got a hold of them. From 63(they where superstars in UK already) to 66 they became the Cheeky boys we became to know and love. Brian was very protective of their image. Without the grind of touring we really got to see what they could do with their talent from 1966 on starting with Rubber Soul(my favorite album)

Remember these guys made 13 albums in 7 years! (Let it be was already in the can when they released it 1970.) Unheard of!

Listen to Because for harmonies. Probably their best. It was tracked over three times to make 9 part harmony.

Yeah I like the Beatles


yea.. uh.. me too
HUGELY influential. Even those who dont " get it" have to agree with that one.
John and Paul are the greatest song writing team ever assembled.. Even though they rarely wrote together after '64 John's cynicism and wit, coupled with Paul's upbeat and sunny personality you would think would clash. But somehow they made it work. WELL.
And George is one of the most underrated guitarists around. And his songwriting was fantastic as well, just over shadowed by those other 2 guys
And how can you not long Ringo Some say he was " just along for the ride" but I disagree.

Yea, I like the Beatles.. sorta



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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 11:14 AM
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The Beatles were my favorite band for a short time in my life probably in between Led Zeppelin and my discover of Floyd and Yes. This love affair - though brief, was the result of my youngest uncle (ten years older than me) giving me the White Album, the "Blue" greatest hits package, and the "Red" greatest hits package all at the same time one Christmas.

So, while I'll only spin some Beatles now maybe once a month or so, what always impressed me the most about them was how vastly their sound and style developed in just 6 years or so.

Wow.


I'm a massive Beatle Fan...

I always find it amazing that there is less than 3 years between recording "She Loves You" and "Tomorrow Never Knows". That's incredible. People can't even do one album in that time these days, nonetheless make such major changes and advancements.

About "Oh! Darling"... Something else to listen closely to is the drumming. Excellent drumming in that song.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 07:39 PM
I am one of those people who can NEVER get enough Beatles. No one would be here talking about ABB if not for them.
 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 08:04 PM
The Beatles?............hmmm..........The Beatles............Oh yes, now I remember......

Tight little Combo from Liverpool, England...........sold a few vinyl recording back in the '60's...

They auditoned for Decca Records in January 1, 1962, recording 15 songs on acetate. After listing Decca decided to pass, saying "guitar groups are on the way out." So much for great corporate decisions!

To say I'm a Beatle fan is an understatement. Almost every time put on the headphones to listen to the 'lads' I seem to pick up something new. Their use of harmonies is unmatched by anyone since. I think the only one's that compare are the Everly Brothers. Like cupofjo said, listen to the harmony of John & George on 'Because', absolutely spot on! These were four immensly talented people that came together at the right place & time.

Trivia tidbit: I read that Paul would hold practice sessions where he would scream & scream for several days before the 'Oh Darling' recording sessions.

btw, anyone want a copy of the Decca Session shot me a pm.........We can work it out..

 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 08:40 PM
One of the band's greatest virtues was the creativity of the harmony singing throughout their career
 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 09:18 PM
Its funny how we are talking about their harmonies but Paul and John could shred it up like some of the great rockers did too. Twist and Shout was done in one take. John literally lost his voice after singing that. They tried to get a second take and he couldnt sing!

And lets not forget Paul's cover of Long Tall Sally! He really shreds that one up.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2007 at 09:29 PM
Gotta love the Beatles. Where's Willie Howard and Tony T? This thread should bring them out from hiding

 

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