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  posted on 10/18/2007 at 08:02 PM
I was just listening to an awesome show from Dire Straits recorded in March 1979 at the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby, PA. It was originally an FM broadcast over WMMR (and hosted by legendary DJ Ed Sciaky).

The original Dire Staits had a unique sound all its own, and their first three LPs DIRE STRAITS (recorded 1978) COMMUNIQUE (recorded 1978) and MAKING MOVIES (recorded 1980) are three of my favorites of all time. They were able to bring their magic sound to the stage as evidenced in the abovementioned show.

Unfortuntately, the original Dire Straits lineup fell apart too soon. David Knophler quit during the MAKING MOVIES sessions, and Pick Withers left after the LOVE OVER GOLD sessions. They were replaced by new musicians, and went on to make BROTHERS IN ARMS, which still is a great album but I missed the original four, and their unique late 70s sound, which had disappeared by 1985.

I always wish that the original four would get back together, and try to find the sound that they had. That would be one reunion I'd definitely want to catch!



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  posted on 10/18/2007 at 08:11 PM
The J Geils Band! I think there all still alive.
 

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  posted on 10/18/2007 at 08:13 PM
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I was just listening to an awesome show from Dire Straits recorded in March 1979 at the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby, PA. It was originally an FM broadcast over WMMR (and hosted by legendary DJ Ed Schacky).

The original Dire Staits had a unique sound all its own, and their first three LPs DIRE STRAITS (recorded 1978) COMMUNIQUE (recorded 1978) and MAKING MOVIES (recorded 1980) are three of my favorites of all time. They were able to bring their magic sound to the stage as evidenced in the abovementioned show.

Unfortuntately, the original Dire Straits lineup fell apart too soon. David Knophler quit during the MAKING MOVIES sessions, and Pick Withers left after the LOVE OVER GOLD sessions. They were replaced by new musicians, and went on to make BROTHERS IN ARMS, which still is a great album but I missed the original four, and their unique late 70s sound, which had disappeared by 1985.

I always wish that the original four would get back together, and try to find the sound that they had. That would be one reunion I'd definitely want to catch!




Making Movies - One of my favorite albums of all time!

 

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  posted on 10/18/2007 at 10:23 PM
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The J Geils Band! I think there all still alive.


I think they did a reunion a few years ago and it didn't sell a lot of tix.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 01:23 AM
I follow Knopfler pretty closely and have seen his last two tours. DS broke up primarily because Mark no longer wanted the pressure that goes along with a "big" tour - arenas, tens of thousands in the audience, roadies he no longer knew personally, 20 trucks to haul around the show - all that stuff. He's stated as much in many interviews. DS really was him, and he could have recruited new musicians to fill the roles, but as OTF said; he wanted to go in another direction.

So he did the colaboration with Chet Atkins, worked with Dylan, played for a while as part of the Notting Hillbillies, and since has put out a number of great solo albums. For my money, he's better today than ever. How many musicians do you know who, in their 50's, become more productive than when they were younger? His recent work is more folk-based, but it's also deeper on many levels, with great lyrics telling interesting stories. His latest release; Kill to Get Crimson, is his most restrained yet, with nothing you'd call a guitar solo on any of the tunes. That's disturbed many of the Knopfler faithful who've been around since the DS days, but most acknowledge the tunes are great.

The Shangri-La tour had enough DS material to keep the fans happy, but the All The Roadrunning tour with Emmylou Harris only had one or two DS tunes. That tour was short, but so memorable, and I feel very fortunate to have seen it last year. Stunning musicianship!

What I find now is that his playing has so much emotional content, I don't need the rockin' DS stuff to make me happy. I'll be fine if I never hear Walk Of Life and Money For Nothing again. He should be back in the US in '08, and I'll certainly be posting tour dates when I see the info.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 06:11 AM
2 words.

JJ Cale.

I've always thought that DS ripped off the sound of JJ Cale and marketed it to a mass audience.

I would call Mark Knopfler out on this anytime and I think he is gentleman enough to agree there is a definite similarity in sound.

Last NYE I DJ'd at a pub overlooking the fireworks on Sydney harbour and sometime before dropping Eric Clapton's uptempo version of JJ's " After Midnight " at 12.00
I played a track off of JJ's 'Troubadour " LP ( cant remember , but maybe it was " I'm a Gypsy man " - all the tracks off that are good ) and people asked " Which Dire Straights song is this ? ".

I held up the album cover and said " uh huh. this is JJ Cale ".

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 08:20 AM
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The J Geils Band! I think there all still alive.


I think they did a reunion a few years ago and it didn't sell a lot of tix.


I saw Magic Dick and J. Geils together a number of years ago. Had I never seen the band in their heyday, It might not have been half bad. But this performance was NOTHING like the fire of the early to mid-seventies, before it all went to hell.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 08:31 AM
Nothing like seeing these live!


dIRE sTRAITS - Private Investigation- live in Basel 1992



Dire Straits - Romeo and Juliet Live



dIRE sTRAITS Telegraph road (Live 1 of 2)



dIRE sTRAITS Telegraph road (Live 2 of 2)



dIRE sTRAITS Tunnel of love

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 08:39 AM
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2 words.

JJ Cale.

I've always thought that DS ripped off the sound of JJ Cale and marketed it to a mass audience.

I would call Mark Knopfler out on this anytime and I think he is gentleman enough to agree there is a definite similarity in sound.

Last NYE I DJ'd at a pub overlooking the fireworks on Sydney harbour and sometime before dropping Eric Clapton's uptempo version of JJ's " After Midnight " at 12.00
I played a track off of JJ's 'Troubadour " LP ( cant remember , but maybe it was " I'm a Gypsy man " - all the tracks off that are good ) and people asked " Which Dire Straights song is this ? ".

I held up the album cover and said " uh huh. this is JJ Cale ".


I seem to remember reading an interview with Markfrom the mid 80's just prior to Brothers in Arm, admitting to the Cale and Dylan influences and how they influenced his style in playing and lyric writing.

It was the same article where he said he was scared to take his beloved strat on the road anymore, hence the switch to Schechters and Pensa/Suhr guitars.


 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 10:54 AM
Dire Straits are one of my all time favorites - would love to see these guys do a live show! I think Mark Knopfler is up there on the greatest guitarists list and I have quite a few of the band's CD's plus some of Mark's solo stuff in my collection. I was under the impression that there was a falling out between Mark and David, though - has that been resolved?

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 02:34 PM
agreed.

Awesome band,
fairly underrated though.

i think the "Money for nothing" thing really put them into a category that made them lose some fans.....even though "Brothers is arms" is a fantastic effort.

hell man, "alchemy" is about the best cd i own.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2007 at 02:45 PM
To Dylan and JJ Cale should be added Richard Thompson - huge influence on Knopfler's playing style.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 12:14 AM
A little random, but I just came across this thread in a search. Just wanted to say I whole heartedly agree and love Dire Straits. Definitely one of my all time favorites, though they are relatively unknown (or their music other than a handful of songs). I've always loved Dire Straits and Making Movies, two of my favorites...I need to get Communique if its as good as those. I'm actually learning Tunnel of Love on the guitar right now...such a fantastic song.
 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 12:20 AM
yeah, they definitly are underrated & were really quite awesome back in their day... the money for noththing did knock them into a different category

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 12:31 AM
LMAO

I didn't look at the dates originally and thought I was having some weird flashback of sorts. Found it strange as if I had seen this before. I had.

I like DS but I really think Mark Knopfler was the band for the most part. It was his distinctive sound. Truthfully the first two albums sound like the same thing. I think Mark Knopfler grew much more after DS. Working with Chet rubbed off a little on him I think.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 09:55 AM
Another great live album everyone needs to own!!

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 10:18 AM
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Another great live album everyone needs to own!!




I have the vinyl and the VHS of this show (two out-dated formats! ). It's so funny when the roadies start disassembling the gear during their final encore, "Theme from Local Hero".

"On the Night" is another great live album by the last incarnation of the band.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 10:19 AM
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Definitely! Love this one!

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 10:22 AM
guess i'm in the minority on this one,never got into Dire Straits...tried..just can't dig 'em at all.......not sure what the J.Giles band has to do w/all this,but they're a band i LOVE

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 10:25 AM
I would like to add The Smiths to this list. Johnny Mar is an unheralded guitar player if there ever was one. If the Police can get back together, then The Smiths should bury their differences and tour again.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 10:56 AM
But then the world would be subjected to more Morrissey.

I worked with a guy who played Morrissey every damn day. The staff went to management to make him stop. Seems like it was depressing the hell out of everyone. I used to call it suicide music. I was a little concerned about our co-worker. Just a little depressing to listen to no one but Morrissey.

After being told to lay off Morrissey, he then started to play Bjork non-stop. LOL Then people wanted the Morrissey back.




 

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I would like to add The Smiths to this list. Johnny Mar is an unheralded guitar player if there ever was one. If the Police can get back together, then The Smiths should bury their differences and tour again.


two great albums everyone should own. I recently saw a performance on VH1 classic that was great.



 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 11:10 AM
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Nothing like seeing these live!


dIRE sTRAITS - Private Investigation- live in Basel 1992



Dire Straits - Romeo and Juliet Live



dIRE sTRAITS Telegraph road (Live 1 of 2)



dIRE sTRAITS Telegraph road (Live 2 of 2)



dIRE sTRAITS Tunnel of love




Take a look at these. The sad thing is everyone knows them for the stupid MTV video and Walk of Life. There was so much more before that!

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 11:24 AM
Dire Straits One of the few mainstream acts I like from that era wait never mind I like alot but to me they were good until Money for nothing even though I like the video

 

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  posted on 3/6/2008 at 11:34 AM
The Straits have always been a Knofler vehicle much like Ray Davies & the KINKS while they experienced an enormous early out of the box success. Their debut sold like 4 million while subsequent albums fell short of that surprising acheivemnet and even then follow ups still sold in the millions until Brother in Arms hit a grand slam selling over Ten million world wide. Mark seems to be doing just fine now being a gentleman musician exploring as what he calls root music/ A must see dvd is his his live performance with Emmy lou Harris that comes with their live cd recorded june 07. There is is some Dire strait moments on that.
Looking back on it it i now realize that Dire Straits replaced Little feat and the ABB for me in the early 80s..

[Edited on 3/7/2008 by Bingylandmusic]

 

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