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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 04:27 PM
I just listened to the Greek 93 show the other day. Anyone heard this??
OUCH!
The set-lists section says Dickey played blindfolded on One Way Out. How do you explain the rest of this show??
Wow.
Thought this was pretty fun to listen to actually. Can anyone recommend any other ABB train wrecks? I pretty sure this is the worst one ever.

 
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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 04:46 PM
PEAKIN' AT THE BEACON. Dickey made a mess of that one.
 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 04:55 PM
It takes a BAND to have a train wreck, not one person.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 04:58 PM
We were due a Dickey bashing thread

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 04:59 PM
here we go again...

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:11 PM
hows about 7/25/03 murat centre indianapolis in. [desdemona] was a train wreck, and dickey was not in the band anymore.
 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:15 PM
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We were due a Dickey bashing thread
I know that I said D.B. made a mess of Peakin', but it's just a fact. I get tired of the bashing threads too, I certainly didn't mean to take it in that direction. But the original topic dicussion was "trainwrecks" and Mr. Betts' work on that album couldn't be described in any other way.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:15 PM
I saw DB twice in the 70's. The greatness of those performances gives him a lifetime pass in my book.
 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:35 PM
I went to a festival show in the mid 80's headlined by The Police, who were riding high on the success of Synchronicity. There were a handful of new age type rock bands there, I remember Ministry and Flock of Seagulls were two of them, who we mostly ignored, preferring to party and try to pick up girls instead of focusing on the stage.

Some cruel promoter scheduled Joan Jett and the Blackhearts in the middle of all of this. I think she made it through four or five songs before being boo'ed off the stage. Not by my friends and I - after The Police, she probably would have been the only act we were interested in, but to the crowd at large, she was unwelcome. People down front were throwing garbage at her, half-filled cups of beer, etc.

It was a shame, but I think it qualifies as a "train wreck."

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:38 PM
I am not bashing Dickey!
I am a huge Dead fan too and believe me I am not the first person to get a lot of laughs out of some of their performances. I love Dickey and Jerry and the rest of 'em, but you can't sit their and tell me you don't crack up when you hear Bob Weir sing 'Misty' sans guitar or Gregg introducing a song from, er, uuuuu 19......75?

Here is another great train wreck speaking of the GD: St. Patrick's Day at Philly '92.
This was easily the most pathetic display not only by the band (well NOT the band actually) but by the crowd as well.
During Drums, Mickey and Bill were using electronic noises and loops and started playing loop over loop over loop until BOTH drummers left the stage. I remember just sitting there watching this empty stage with all kinds of screeching loud noises, clanks and yes, train wreck sounds blasting out of the speakers for 10 MINUTES! Meanwhile the crowd was CHEERING and going crazy!!! The Dead had to have been thinking "Man. This is too easy!"

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:39 PM
At one point during the Echo Project festival in Atlanta this weekend, Umphrey's McGee had a jam fall apart so badly that I literally started shouting "No! WRONG!" This was shortly after they had butchered Norwegian Wood. Making that melody sound ugly is hard to do, but they managed to do so by turning it into a thrash-metal tune

I'll never understand what some people see in that band. They have chops, I'll grant that, but that's about it. No sense of taste or style in that band whatsoever.

 
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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:42 PM
Never seen them Rob but I'll take your word for it. No sense of taste or style...I'll pass them by.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 05:53 PM
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We were due a Dickey bashing thread


I hate when this happens, but your comment made me laugh!!

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 06:17 PM
The MTV Music Awards always seem to be a train wreck to me

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 06:30 PM
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The MTV Music Awards always seem to be a train wreck to me

Word, Ms. Britney comes to mind. If they ever create a grammy category for best train wreck, I'd nominate her.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 06:45 PM
If a band and all of it's members are playing in the moment, a train wreck is bound to occur eventually....

I like to see a band play their way out of one....

The ABB can do it....

Matter of fact they ought to write a song and call it "Train Wreck"...

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 06:51 PM
I saw two in one show, back in 99.

Georgia on a Fast Train and JJ's Alley.

Both times Dickey said what great somgs those were once they learned them.

Um, Ok.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 06:52 PM
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If a band and all of it's members are playing in the moment, a train wreck is bound to occur eventually....

I like to see a band play their way out of one....

The ABB can do it....

Matter of fact they ought to write a song and call it "Train Wreck"...


You hit it there John.

The really good musicians have "train wrecks" because they are trying to push it to next level. Buddy Guy is one of those. I've seen him at time and he stunk but also the best set of music I've ever seen was Buddy Guy on Labor day 1990.

But I get tired of seeing Dickey and train wreck in the same sentence

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 07:02 PM

But I get tired of seeing Dickey and train wreck in the same sentence


Yeah...me too..

And one of the greatest "train wrecks" in ABB history is Berry coming back in too soon after the guitar trade off in "One Way Out". The band just fell in and Berry worked his part out and made most of us believe it was on purpose. I don't think any other band could play those notes exactly if they tried....

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 07:31 PM
Bluedad is right! If you don't bomb every once in a while, then you ain't trying! The tightest band in the world is gonna put a foot out in a new direction, and slip sometimes. Coltrane and Miles were masters at taken a effup, and making it pure genious!

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 07:43 PM
That's what I had taken for granted when I started this thread - the train wrecks are just part of the process of creating the really good moments.

Seriously though, Greek 93 - wow. Anyone else heard this?

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 08:02 PM
ABB w/Ben Harper Beacon Theatre 2006 on Midnight Rider. Clearly, they had not worked out who was going to sing what and it was an absoute trainwreck. Even Warren, who is a great stage leader when there are guests on stage couldn't salvage it. Song ended up being about 45 seconds longer because WH tried to save it with an extra guitar solo. Ben & Gregg were definitely not on the same page and you got the feeling Ben couldn't hear the monitors.

Also, 4/29/00 makes Peakin' At The Beacon sound like At Fillmore East. I wasn't there live but once was all ever needed to hear of that tape. Ouch.

Honestly, in all the Allman Brothers shows I've witnessed live in person since 1990 (35), I've never seen anything even close to resembling trainwreck show. Midnight Rider was one song in an otherwise great show.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 08:07 PM
Closest thing to an ABB train wreck that I've witnessed was Gregg forgetting the words to "Sailing 'Cross the Devil's Sea" in Huntsville a couple of years ago. Guest guitarist, Jack Pearson walked over and talked the words into Gregg's ear. It was relatively harmless, as the only result was an extended introduction (about 2 minutes worth, it seemed). The looks on the faces of Warren and Oteil were ... priceless! It was like, "when is he gonna start singin'?"

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 08:07 PM
Milli Vanilli when the record skipped.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2007 at 08:08 PM
Some really good insight here.....wish I had something coherent to offer up. Most Dead shows I went to, I was so dosed that regardless, it was the best show ever. Matter of fact, it was the best everything ever. So, I could never properly critique one of their shows.
 
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