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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 09:57 AM

I had my first dealing with High Blood Pressure this past Friday on my route.

I was coming down I 575 from Jasper Ga. and all of a sudden I started having a headache...then I got "Swimmy Headed"..then my left arm got numb. I got scared and got off at exit 11(Holy Springs)...I was lucky that the Fire Dept was collecting money for children. I stopped and I told them how I was feeling. One of them checked my blood pressure and it was 170/100. I felt nervous...this weird feeling I never felt before. They told me that the Fire station was a mile up the road....told me to go there and sit down. They checked it again and it was 150/100....when they would ask me questions..I had to pause and think to answer. I felt really strange. They called the EMS (more medical bills!!!) to come out and do a EKG...it was okay and my blood pressure was at 140/100. He said that if I showed signs of a heart attack that they would have to take me to the Hospital. I told them I would...but I got to feeling a little better. So I declined the emergency room and finished my route. One more time my head hurt...but it got better.

I'm getting ready to go see my Doc in an hour. Felt pretty bad all weekend...I mostly slept.

I was really scared Friday night.........

Have any of you had Blood Pressure problems and had it get better through medication ?

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 10:21 AM
Take care Kenny and hope the doctor has some good news.

Had many health problems the last couple of years and know where the mind goes to also. Heart troubles had me plenty scared too.

Blood pressure hasn't been one but have family and friends that have and all are fine after taking either meds or the doctor's advice.

Let us know how you are doing. Will play something loud and proud while thinking of you.

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 10:21 AM
Hey Kenny...

Yeah - I have it. Am consistantly high. Just started taking some stuff a few weeks back to mitigate it. If it works, I'll get the name to you.
Don't have those 'episodes' you described. In fact, if not for taking a measurement I wouldn't know I had it at all.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 10:27 AM
Kenny, I'm 52 and have been on blood pressure meds for about 8 years. Get regular checkups, DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH THIS, MAN. You are at risk for a heart attack or stroke if you don't control it. I'm on three meds, but my Dr., who I happen to think is excellent, says they all do different things, and it's working. I usually run 135-140 (systolic, or high number) over 80-90 (diastolic, or low number). FYI I take lisinopril, norvasc and atenolol. I had been on lisinopril and atenolol for maybe six years, my new Dr. two years ago added the norvasc and it really made a difference.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 10:47 AM
I ran into one of the radio broadcasters at the football game this past Friday. I hadn't seen this guy since last year, and I noticed that he was walking slow and with a cane. He told me that he had a stroke several months back. He didn't have any symptoms leading up to it - it just came from out of nowhere.

He told me his story and then asked me when I last had a physical. I told him that my last yearly check-up was over 5 years ago, but I was intending to schedule one soon.
He looked at me and said, "you ain't 25 any more ... you ain't 35 and you ain't even 45 any more". This bummed me out. I was pretty sure that I could get away with lying about 45.

So, this morning I called my doctor and scheduled a complete physical examination. My appointment is scheduled for two weeks from today. I told the doctor get ready to glove-up, and promised him that I wouldn't enjoy it if he'd promise the same.

Meanwhile, I try to exercise daily (I walk 5 miles everyday) and watch my diet (not much red meat - I do not have salt in my house).

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 11:39 AM
Calling my Doc now....haven't had mine checked in a couple years, been getting meds from a rep. No sense taking chances. Done.
 
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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 11:54 AM
Kenny - take care of yourself! I've never had high blood pressure problems (age 53 if that makes a difference) but my mother does and she takes meds for it. Get yourself to a doctor and begin whatever drug regimen is prescribed for you. Like rob says - nothing to mess around with here and there is success in treating with medication. Be well.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 12:01 PM
Hope it turns out all right, Kenny! I'll be thinking of you, my man...

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 12:09 PM
Please take care of your selves everyone.
HBP took the life of my wife. She was only 51.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 12:13 PM
I've been on Norvasc for about a year to bring borderline high BP down. It helped but due to taking more care of my mother and father than I do myself, it recently ran out. Within a day or two I noticed a little shortness of breath, etc. I gotta get that prescription refilled...
 

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I saw my Doc today. Blood Pressure was much better.

I hate to admit this...I had not smoked a cigarette in over 7 years. I was a 2 and a half pack a day smoker back in the day.

About 4 weeks ago I was stressed over some troubles...and like an effn' fool I bought a pack of smokes. Only a few here and there...but Friday I smoked a whole pack in less than 4 hours(what a dumbass). Of course when I had the Blood Pressure attack...I threw the next pack away.

He thinks that all the smokes made my pressure go up. I already have high cholesterol...but i'm eating somewhat better...cut out the soda's...and so far I have lost 15 lbs.

He wants me to monitor my BP for a week. If it goes up again...he will put me on meds. He said If I have another episode like Friday...to head straight to the hospital.

So..hopefully it will be okay........

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 01:32 PM
Kenny... I'm happy you went to Dr.. You are lucky and pay heed to warnings... no more smokes for sure... and it's good to pay attention to how you are feeling and not blow it off as something less..... We all care.... stay well.....

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 01:33 PM
My BP has always been borderline high, as in 135-145/80-90. It has been higher, especially when stressed. But my diastolic is never over 100, so I guess it's not too terrible.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 02:00 PM
Glad to hear you are doing better Kenny. Stay healthy my friend.

I have had pneumonia three times this year and the latest is not leaving me in a hurry. I had cut back to a few smokes per day. The doctor said that previously he had advised to stop smoking but now he was telling me. He said that my lungs were telling me I was dying but the timeline was up to me. Threw them away and have been a mess since but a healthier mess I guess.

He said my lungs have taken a beating. I wonder why?

Yes he told me to stay away from that also.

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Sorry to hear about your wife and if anyone here knows the advice he is giving it would be you. An eye opener for sure and much appreciated.

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 02:27 PM
CanadianMule (and anyone else who wants to quit smoking but feel as if they can't,)

I started smoking at age 11, and three weeks before my 19th birthday, I had a spontaneous pneumo thorax (collapsed lung.) I had to have surgery to repair the hole in the top lobe of my right lung. I quit smoking for 1 1/2 years after the operation, then started back up at 21 out of job site boredom. By age 23, I was having a hell of a time with chronic bronchitis. I decided one day to just quit (I have to admit, the prices of cigs were hitting a buck a pack and part of my decision to quit was fiscal.) I have been smoke free for 23 years, half my life. Even since I quit smoking, I feel like I have a diminished lung capacity. I believe it was because I smoked during my formative years. I gained a lot of weight after I quit, but I consider it a fair trade.

All I will say to cigarette smokers is...you CAN quit. You just got to want to. But if you aren't committed to quitting, don't even try. Smoking one once in a while isn't quitting, although at this point, one or two cigarettes a day beats the snot out a whole pack or two a day. I can guarantee you this. If you quit, you WILL feel better. Things smell better and taste better after you've quit smoking.

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 02:36 PM
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Please take care of your selves everyone.
HBP took the life of my wife. She was only 51.


I lost one of my best friends to a stroke at 43,....she left behind a 12 year old son.

This ain't something to go messing around with.

I'm 56 and I've been on BP meds for 12 years,.....I feel fine,....no side effects,....the ONLY side effect was when I Very first started taking them,......that first day,.....every thing I did had a time lag between the body and the brain,...

i.e. I'd decide to 'do' something,.......like pick up something,...or walk,.....

The brain would give the command,......and about 2 or 3 seconds later,...the particular body part would finally respond,....that was SERIOUSLY 'wierd' !!!!!

I called the pharmasist(sp) and asked him,,,,....and he said yeah,....that was a wierd side effect and he was sorry he forgot to warn me,......so not to get upset,...it'd go away in a day or two,.....in the mean-time,...just try not to need to do anything quickly and be careful on stairs
(finding out it was normal,.....I just played with it, just for the fun of commanding hands to do stuff,...and then 'waiting' to watch them finally respond)

My husband got put on BP meds about 2 years ago.
Lemme tell you,....HE WAS FREAKING,.......months BEFORE the meds.

i.e. his dad was on them and had lost his ability to 'be a man' in the private theater of matrimony
My mate was coming all un-glued at the mere idea.

His Dad TRIED to tell him "It's no big deal,......the Dr. could fix it just by changeing my meds,....but I don't care,...your Mom 'can't anymore (fallen bladder she was afraid to have surgery to tack back in place) so what good would erections do me,......so I'll just stay on the meds I'm on,........but if you have to take um,,,,and you have problems,....the Dr. can just switch your meds til some work that don't do that,.........

He didn't believe the man. (The fact that he's been on Prozac for 20 years, and never had that side effect from that, was beside the point)

So he totally freaked when the Dr. said he was going to have to go on the BP meds.

All for NOTHING.
The first meds worked fine and no bad side-effects.
I've already buried 2 husbands to alcohol and a traffic accident.
I'm TRYING to keep THIS one here and Healthy,....

If you Need the meds,...TAKE them !!!!,....don't play Russian Roulette with your health and life,....another dear friend of mine had a stroke at 44,...HE'S still here,......but only after years of physical therapy is he now able to get around with only a cane,.......his speech (at 59) is still slow and measured,.....he says he KNEW his BP was hiigh,.........

But he's stuck his head in the sand and just hoped it would right-itself
He took a gamble
He lost
But it COULD just as easily have cost him his life, as it had our friend Deborah's.

What excuse do you have for not taking the meds ? HBP is a disease,....don't let it win without a fight !!!!

 

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CanadianMule (and anyone else who wants to quit smoking but feel as if they can't,)

I started smoking at age 11, and three weeks before my 19th birthday, I had a spontaneous pneumo thorax (collapsed lung.) I had to have surgery to repair the hole in the top lobe of my right lung. I quit smoking for 1 1/2 years after the operation, then started back up at 21 out of job site boredom. By age 23, I was having a hell of a time with chronic bronchitis. I decided one day to just quit (I have to admit, the prices of cigs were hitting a buck a pack and part of my decision to quit was fiscal.) I have been smoke free for 23 years, half my life. Even since I quit smoking, I feel like I have a diminished lung capacity. I believe it was because I smoked during my formative years. I gained a lot of weight after I quit, but I consider it a fair trade.

All I will say to cigarette smokers is...you CAN quit. You just got to want to. But if you aren't committed to quitting, don't even try. Smoking one once in a while isn't quitting, although at this point, one or two cigarettes a day beats the snot out a whole pack or two a day. I can guarantee you this. If you quit, you WILL feel better. Things smell better and taste better after you've quit smoking.

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I hear you Dave. I have quit a few times over the years but stupidly kept starting up again.

The last few years I really cut back. 1 to 5 smokes a day and thought I was doing well. Had a bunch of health problems not related to smoking and tried to stop a few times. Twice my wife told me she loved me but was going to kill me. The doctor told me that he would never suggest smoking but if it was causing all this extra stress while I was already ill then smoke a damn cigarette. Had some serious medical issues and was pretty stressed out about them. For a while I wasn't sure if I would see my son grow up which sure didn't help with the stress.

But most of those issues are behind me and now pneumonia seems to be a weekly affair. My 16 yrs old daughter is on me because she hates smoking. I haven't smoked in the house in over 10 years but now she bugs me when I am going to step out. Plus I had said I didn't want my son knowing that I smoked. He is 5 and I am too late now.


Stopped a few days ago and haven't missed them much so far. But that is pretty easy when I can barely breathe. The challenge will be my mood over the next while. I know it is an excuse but I do become quite a pain. I know I already am so imagine an increase.

This time I think they are gone for good though. As you said, you must believe and want to. I do now.

My apologies in advance for the coming weeks.

Thanks for the advice Dave. No soapbox there just some common sense and brotherly advice.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 03:58 PM
CM, maybe talk to your doctor about Wellbutrin. I have heard it is used to help people stop smoking, plus it is a mild anti-depressant. There has to be something they can give you to help get you over the hump. Good luck with your continued efforts to quit, and good luck with the stress.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 04:05 PM
Good luck CM!!! You can do this! And like Dave says - maybe something to help with the stress level and it's roll-down affects to moodiness, etc would be good at the onset. Anything better than repeated bouts of pneumonia!

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 04:34 PM
CM & anyone else interested,if i may suggest,don't jump to wellbutrin--there are many other ways to do this depending on multiple factors in your med. history & that drug has severe limitations,albeit useful for some since we each react differently to different substances--legal or illegal---as a shrink i know these meds well...& frankly there are ways to handle this--been workin on this & substance use issues for over 30 years....as for BP there are regional differences in both determining the optimal BP # & treatment approaches, & many many drugs to choose from---i also take a ton of stuff for it for many years & it is managable...so my BP hovers between 120-136/76-80---in nyc,based on the AHA reccommendations,their optimal # is around 117/76...so my doc wants it lower but a few years ago i'd be fine with those #'s(with all the meds!!!)---& if i was outta NYC the "acceptable" # may vary.
Finally,Dr. Mehmet Oz,a noted cardiovascular surgeon at Columbia Pres. has focused on a diet i just began that friends of mine(some of them Docs themselves) who with the diet,are able to reduce some of the meds or eliminate them---anyone wanting more info. on BP or ciggy or substance stuff--no, not stoppin if it helps,but if it's hurting ya too much....feel free to pm--freebie advice given.Some stuff requires abstinence for certain people(not all) & some substances can be taken if safe & therapeutic...for example,the use of a high quality vaporizer is useful in smoking cessation--either using tabacco or other stuff--no tar,benzene--study was done by NORML(I ignore those --they have an agenda telling me the research is usually suspect as on the other extreme,most govt. studies are mainly wrong & useless given they too got an axe to grind)---but,study was done at UCSF medical school that appears legit & scientifically sound.So,there is alot of creative stuff going on--most unknown to the general public as a result of large scale govt. repression at med. centers or schools that do any research that demonstrates that moronic politicians should NOT be in volved in any of this---it's like me playin MLB baseball--it's best i sit in the stands & let the pros--people trained to do this....so PM ME IF YA FEEL I CAN HELP--IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE....& if i don't know i'll tell ya....ahh the fun of aging...better than the alternative---good day & peace to all....

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 04:34 PM
I've had HBP for close to 12 years now.

I now up to 5 different meds to control mine:

Metoprolol (Meh-toe-pro-lol)
Nifedipine (Neh-fed-eh-peen)
Cozaar (Koh-zar)
Hydroclorothiazide (aka HCTZ)
Lisinopril (lye-sin-oh-pril)

Under that med regimen, my BP is pretty consistently 115/75 these days. Before I was diagnosed, I was running at about 180/100 (with my "Low" days at around 140/90). The AMA dropped the ceiling on what was considered "High" a couple of years ago. Before, anything in the 130-140/85-90 range was just "borderline", but they dropped it down to 120/80 as being the absolute ceiling...anything above that is considered "high". So, if you're over that, you should probably talk to your Dr.

HBP is nothing to mess with, get checked, get meds, get periodic checkups to adjust meds if necessary. AND, change dietary habits...cut out added salt, choose low sodium foods. And, if you're even slightly overweight, lose weight. (that's the one I'm working on now)

And, yeah, quit smoking, too...that'll probably be the hardest part. Since I've never smoked (tobacco, that is), I haven't had to deal with the process of quitting. I've heard that is just incredibly difficult to do (from my dad who took about 5 years of constant work to finally quit for good)

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 04:36 PM
On a lighter note Lonnie Mack wrote a song called "High Blood Pressure" not sure if it would be safe to listen to it though?
 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 06:17 PM
I'm 37, and I have been taking Lisinopril for 5 years, starting at 32. Unfortunately, I have genetics to deal with. Nearly every single person on both my parents side of the family have had to deal with high BP in some form or another. 10mg a day keeps me at 120/80.

One thing about Wellbutrin/Zyban for smoking cessation - tried for exactly two weeks. "Agitation" is a common side effect, but I started having these snap rages - I remember looking for a frying pan in the cabinet and not finding it right away and just snapping, I even surprised myself how suddenly enraged I got. I almost snapped at my 4 year old daughter that same night for nothing. I stopped taking that stuff immediately and went back to normal.

It did take the edge off the urges, though, but not completely. Not enough to justify getting that mad that quickly.

 

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Wellbutrin,like all many "modern" anti depressants--works,depending on the particular study you may research,46-50% of the time & of the people it doesn't work in 25-30% have an iatrogenic reaction & suffer mild to severe agitation(that's for depression--the numbers for wellbutrin success for smoking are a bit unclear, vague, & inconsistent based on research & literature review---drugs aren't the first line of defense & anyone who you see should best understand the subtle art & individuality of proper dosing & follow up.Zyban,while commonly used,has it's problems,for some people too..drug "subsitution" based on what the ciggy or any drug you take & wish to stop or reduce,for many is the best way to proceed.Acupunture,psychotherapy,diet,exercise,meditation,biofeedback,chang ing external stressors,patches,gum,support groups,spiritual excersizes & retreats....on & on these alone or in combination are effective for some...the order or choice, & then the choice of meds for BP or substance stopping or cutting back are subtle, scientific, & artful judgements requring docs who really pratice,teach, & research this stuff...not an easy find...but again,if i can help,possibly direct you,i'd be pleased to help people
here...you can also seek out the best University teaching hospitals & see if they have specialized hypertension units--these docs generally know ths stuff quite well.

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 07:08 PM
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Kenny, I'm 52 and have been on blood pressure meds for about 8 years. Get regular checkups, DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH THIS, MAN. You are at risk for a heart attack or stroke if you don't control it. I'm on three meds, but my Dr., who I happen to think is excellent, says they all do different things, and it's working. I usually run 135-140 (systolic, or high number) over 80-90 (diastolic, or low number). FYI I take lisinopril, norvasc and atenolol. I had been on lisinopril and atenolol for maybe six years, my new Dr. two years ago added the norvasc and it really made a difference.


Yes Rob this is a very big problem. I am 51 and have been on meds since I was 38 years old. I run the same. When I drink it runs 120 over 80. Thin blood. I am waiting for the first attack.............. It will be soon I know. All my Uncles and Dad died early but were Bible thumpers. The only uncle I had live to 71 was a Scoth drinker till the day he died a month ago.He was also one of the guys that designed the Apollo missions. Yea a real rocket scientist.

 

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