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  posted on 9/21/2007 at 06:03 PM
I doubt that anyone here would argue the overall benefits of teaching basic music in school. Anyone else remember marching around the kindergarten classroom playing Ord percussion instruments? I went on to join the band and play several wind instruments. I haven't picked them up in years, but what an impact that had on my life. It is a crime that we continue to cut funds for arts education.

Anyone else have similar experiences? What are your kids experiences now?

 
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  posted on 9/21/2007 at 06:06 PM
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It is a crime that we continue to cut funds for arts education.
Agree with this totally. And it seems that some activities - like organized sports in the schools - never are subjected to these same kinds of budget cuts. To me, it a question of priorities

 

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  posted on 9/21/2007 at 06:28 PM
I was a band geek...and I'm damned proud of it! I remember having a music class in elementary and I took piano lessons privately. Then I moved on to band in the 5th grade. I played percussion right up until I graduated high school. I treasure music and pass it on to my daughter. If the schools won't do it...then by God I will.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2007 at 06:36 PM
Band President of my High School Band, First Chair Trombone.
I enjoyed it to no end. I also studied classical piano privately.

THere is no doubt that learning music increases math skills and comprehension.


And it is so much fun.

THose that would cut school music are clueless fools.

I am taking a 4 year old daughter of a friend shopping for some musical instruments this weekend.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2007 at 07:00 PM
We all played a little plastic thing called the flutophone. Anyone remember that? I took trumpet lessons for a while until the teacher called my mom and asked her to make me quit.

Flutophone:

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 09:30 AM
Here in Alabama we have a project called Blues in the Schools, run by the Alabama Blues Project, funded by private donations. The brainchild of Debbie Bond of Tuscaloosa. Some of the old blues guys teach blues harp and blues guitar chords in the elementary schools. Good project, done by personal initiative of good people.
 
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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 11:49 AM
First chair, first clarinet when I was in band but I gave it up after starting high school. Also took piano lessons as a child and bob - I can remember everyone having to play those little recorders in elementary school as part of our music lessons.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 12:05 PM
My friend Kevin and I were goof -offs in school...I remember getting hit in the back of the head with a pitch pipe by the music teacher and being specifically asked to just mouth the words instead of singing.

I guess our intentional loud voice monotone "singing" had a negative effect on her....

Anyway...we home school our kids - that's meant outsourcing for piano, cello, and guitar lessons for the kids.
Right now, my wife is teaching the 6 year old piano, and the 9 and 14 year olds are taking guitar.
(and the three year old bangs on his toy drums way too often...)

 
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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 12:32 PM
I played clarinet in school band, but let the skills and the horn get away.
I'm trying to learn alto sax, now, but at this age, my neural pathways are all choked in weeds.

But, I did marry the ultimate band geek -
he traded his engineering to be a classically mastered 'boner.



He was one of '76 playing at the dedication of the Epcott Center a few decades ago.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 01:07 PM
I was one of the heads in high school who looked down on people in band. "Band fags" is what we called them. Man, if I only had a clue back then....

Both of my daughters are/were in band and they have excelled academically. All the kids in band are good kids and I KNOW that my daughters have benefited from the structure in band class and being in the marching band. They learn the benefits of teamwork.

In hind sight, I could have benefited from being a band student, not just socially, but musically.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 01:46 PM
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I doubt that anyone here would argue the overall benefits of teaching basic music in school. Anyone else remember marching around the kindergarten classroom playing Ord percussion instruments? I went on to join the band and play several wind instruments. I haven't picked them up in years, but what an impact that had on my life. It is a crime that we continue to cut funds for arts education.

Anyone else have similar experiences? What are your kids experiences now?



I was the Jimi Hendrix of the triangle. Sadly, an addiction to milk and cookies would be my downfall. This addiction led to several stretches in "time-out". My days as a world-class triangleist are behind me. These days I play a pretty mean wood block. But those shows in front of the PTA ... I just wonder if there were any tapers present.

 

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  posted on 9/24/2007 at 02:10 PM
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I was the Jimi Hendrix of the triangle. Sadly, an addiction to milk and cookies would be my downfall. This addiction led to several stretches in "time-out". My days as a world-class triangleist are behind me. These days I play a pretty mean wood block. But those shows in front of the PTA ... I just wonder if there were any tapers present.
LOL - Play that funky triangle, white boy! (Sorry - non-taping venue...)

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 07:39 AM
I was at a Georgetown Basketball game last season and sat near the pep band. One of the members played nothing but the cow bell (MORE COW BELL!!). It was the funniest thing I had ever seen. This guy was soooo into his instrument and had the whole band and crowd going. I had to talk to this guys, turned out he was a high school band geek (percussion, of course) and ended up getting music scholarships that allowed him to attend Georgetown, not bad for a geek.
 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 07:54 AM
I loved music in school. We use to have the old chrome looking flutes. I wish I paid more attention. I did learn to read sheet music from the classes though. I played the snare drum for the Jr High Orchestra. Our teacher, Mr McCollum was a highly well known musician that played for all the symphonies around Charlotte and our area. He could play every instrument you could imagine. I always wanted to be able to do that. Now all I play is the ipod.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 08:01 AM
I've got the fever, and the prescription is ... MORE COWBELL!


To digress slightly: Every Friday night during the Fall, I am at a high school football game. Part of the fun (hey! Whistle while you work!) is hearing the high school marching bands play.

These bands tend to play a lot of rock music from the 60-s thru the 80's. Some of the tunes I've heard done up in brass:

"Crazy Train" - Ozzie
"Iron Man" - Sabbath (Oz is HUGE in high schools!)
"Hush" - Deep Purple
"My Girl" - Temp's
"Evil Ways" - Santana
"Twist and Shout" - Isley's via Fab 4
"Gimmie Some Lovin"- Spencer Davis-Winwood

There are many others that I can't think of right now.


On a funny note (PUN!). At last Friday's game, the home team (Spain Park HS) played the National Anthem - the way they do at every home game. On this occasion, somebody decided it would be cute to have a grammar school chorus accompany them. While this sounds like a good idea, somebody should've made sure that both groups would be playing/singing the same arrangement.

The marching band played the song with dramatic pauses and crescendos - the way a brass band should play the anthem. The grade schoolers sang the song from front to back, resulting in a much quicker version than the band played. This resulted in the chorus being way ahead of the band at critical moments in the song. For instance, while the band was crescendoing into the "rockets bursting in mid air" part, the kids were singing, "... and the home of the brave". The whole thing was just surreal.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 08:22 AM
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I played clarinet in school band, but let the skills and the horn get away.
I'm trying to learn alto sax, now, but at this age, my neural pathways are all choked in weeds.

But, I did marry the ultimate band geek -
he traded his engineering to be a classically mastered 'boner.



He was one of '76 playing at the dedication of the Epcott Center a few decades ago.


Gee, Maggie dear, you could have phrased that a little better...."classically mastered boner"?

That's OK. I know why you like me.....

'Cause trombone players do it in seven positions.
More if they have the right attachment!

Hey John! I knew there was a reason I liked you!
And Dave- shame on you! 'Band fags' indeed! At least you've seen the error of your ways!
And anyway, I can't stay mad at a fellow bass player!
But as for a party; well, there ain't nothin' like a band road trip!(and I do mean trip!)

I haven't played my horn seriously for ages; I mostly play bass now. But starting with the trombone, and having a jazz pianist for a father, gave me a great introduction to the original 'jam' bands- my first musical idol was Tommy Dorsey!
And if you've never heard Basie or Goodman's bands really kick it out, do yourself a favor and check them out- especially Benny Goodman's Carnegie Hall concert(featuring Count Basie, among others).

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 08:40 AM
I was fortunate enough to take guitar lessons for 3 months in school. While I probably didn't learn more than Oh Suzanna, it lit a something in me that is still going strong to this day; playing and listening to live music! Here are some nice benefits to getting kids to play music in school:

1. Playing a Musical Instrument Makes you Smarter! - Many studies have been conducted showing that children who are exposed to music or those who play an instrument do better in school than those who don't.

2. It Teaches Discipline - Learning to play an instrument is like learning to speak another language. You have to be disciplined in order to master playing your instrument.

3. Playing a Musical Instrument Relieves Stress - Playing an instrument can relieve stress and make you feel more relaxed. Music helps calm the mind.

4. Sense of Achievement - If you're a beginner learning to play your first piece, it can be frustrating. But once you've mastered it, the satisfaction you'll feel is priceless.

5. Playing a Musical Instrument is Fun - Once you get better at it, opportunities will arise for you to share your newly learned skill with your family and friends. Playing a music instrument opens up a lot of good possibilities and friendships that will surely enrich your life.

Get your kids into music!!!

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I played clarinet in school band, but let the skills and the horn get away.
I'm trying to learn alto sax, now, but at this age, my neural pathways are all choked in weeds.

But, I did marry the ultimate band geek -
he traded his engineering to be a classically mastered 'boner.



He was one of '76 playing at the dedication of the Epcott Center a few decades ago.




I haven't played my horn seriously for ages; I mostly play bass now. But starting with the trombone, and having a jazz pianist for a father, gave me a great introduction to the original 'jam' bands- my first musical idol was Tommy Dorsey!
And if you've never heard Basie or Goodman's bands really kick it out, do yourself a favor and check them out- especially Benny Goodman's Carnegie Hall concert(featuring Count Basie, among others).


The concert that started it all....brought the common man's music to the masses.
Still my all-time favorite, still the music that I listen to more than any other.

 
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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 10:10 AM
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P.S. Did I mention girls and free beer?


no..but i will...

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 10:10 AM
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And Dave- shame on you! 'Band fags' indeed! At least you've seen the error of your ways!
And anyway, I can't stay mad at a fellow bass player!

{Hangs head in shame}

Henry, for what it's worth, I didn't go out of my way to ridicule the band folks. And I hope by having two daughters in band, and being a faithful band dad and band booster, I have redeemed myself.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 10:12 AM
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no..but i will...


The beer might be free, the girls are merely reasonable.

 

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FYI - when I was in high school the band were THE party monsters! Those folks knew how to have fun!

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 02:05 PM
My wife is a music teacher in elizabeth NJ. Last year she had all the middle school kids
wearing tie-dies and singing "Give Peace a Chance".


This one time, at band camp........

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 02:17 PM
Very cool, JD. Give the Mrs. a high five for me.

 

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  posted on 9/25/2007 at 03:42 PM
In our middle school in the late 80s every student had to be involved in some type of music class. I was in chorus. I didn't like it and didn't want any part of band or orchestra. Our school had a class called music appreciation that students could choose if they didn't want to be in the other music classes.

This class was pretty cool, we basically just listened to music all the time. The teacher would bring in music for us to listen to, usually classical music, but he made it cool and told us what to listen for so we wouldn't fall asleep. On Fridays we could bring in our own music to play. Being the age we were and the year it was usually hard-rock heavy metal stuff. I remember this one kid brought in LL Cool J and we made fun of him.

Oh and about music funding getting cut, but not having sports affected by budget cuts - that isn't true around here. Many schools have gone to a pay to play sports programs when facing financial problems.

 
 


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