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Author: Subject: DUANE ERA ABB RECORDINGS ~ reference list first post on page 1 ~ UPDATED 4th APRIL 2017

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 11:01 AM
Based upon a list of Duane era ABB shows originally produced by Clay Pelland, that has been added to and enhanced following various discussions on this board over the past few years, I believe the following list to be the accurate dates of genuine recordings of Duane era ABB shows.

If anybody has a show with a date other than one of these, it is a strong possibility that it is either a bogus show (perhaps fabricated by an amalgamation of tracks from other shows by an unscrupulous bootlegger) or one that has been incorrectly dated.

I do not claim to be the font of all knowledge on this subject, I have merely collated what information I can from various sources, so if anyone has any additional information then please feel free to comment and I will edit and update the list as appropriate.


DUANE ERA ABB RECORDED SHOWS

03/30/69 @ Jacksonville Armoury (2 discs)

This bootleg purports to be a “Second Coming” gig supposedly performed by the fledgling ABB just four days after the famous “Jacksonville Jam” when the ABB was allegedly officially formed. Duane, Dickey, Berry, Butch and Jaimo are all there, but Gregg is not, Reese Wynans is on keyboards. Dale Betts is also on vocals on one track however, and in the band introductions on track 3 of disc 2 the MC introduces all of the above except for Berry, saying "Richard" on Bass, who I believe to be Richard Price (previously of "The Load"). It has also been said that Larry Reinhardt (later of "Iron Butterfly") may also be on some of the tracks.

All of the above led me to believe that this "show" was actually an amalgamation of recordings from more than one gig, something that has now been confirmed by Richard Price himself, who wrote the following:

I am Richard Price you spoke of above who was in THE LOAD. I was also in the 2nd version of THE SECOND COMING (after Dickey and Berry left). The music you have, and it is probably very rough, is a mixture of several gigs. Some of the tunes were at the CEDAR HILLS ARMORY. The tunes where you described an MC naming me instead of Berry were at THE JACKSONVILLE COLISEUM in Jacksonville beach. The dates are different depending on which venue we were at. I have all the dates. They were all in 1969 though within a few months of each other. I can look up the exact dates of each gig later.

The term the Jacksonville Jam has been misrepresented for 40 some years. There was no one Jacksonville Jam. There were many jams over a period of months. During one of those jams the configuration of what became the ABB was on stage. We recorded many nights of jams. There were several intense nights. After one of those nights there happened to be a jam that Duane was particularly impressed by and the future ABB members happened to be in that jam.

The tapes you have are shows done by THE LOAD & the 1st version of THE SECOND COMING (with Dickey, Dale, John Meeks, Berry, and Reese). These two bands threw the jams and Jaimoe, Duane & Butch Trucks were guests sitting in. This is why you don't hear Gregg. He wasn't in town yet. Some of the tunes you are listening to were 60's cover songs by the 1st Second Coming. Some of the other tunes were Jacksonville jams. I don't know if you have them all. You'd have to give me a list.

Berry and I traded basses all night in these jams. The members of the LOAD were, Richard Price (me), Larry Reinhardt, & Monty Young. So it is true that Larry is on some of these jams.

I have the masters of all of this music and I am going to improve them in sound quality as best I can and put them out along with the never released SECOND COMING album. The Load took John Meeks and Reese and added them to the Load to form a new band after Dickey and Berry left and we kept the name SECOND COMING because 3 of the 5 of us had been in the 1st version. It also was a big draw.


Subsequent to the above, Richard was provided with the following track listing and commented further as below:

CD 1:
1. Don't Want You No More
2. Rock Me Baby
3. Crossroads
4. Born In Chicago
5. Willie Jean Jam
6. Born Under A Bad Sign

CD 2:
1. She Has Funny Cars
2. Hey Joe (Duane on vocals)
3. New Shoes Blues > introductions
4. Travellin' Music Jam

As far as the song list above, the first 7 are the original SECOND COMING (with Dickey and Berry still in it). The next two are one of the Jacksonville jams at the Cedar Hills Armory. I was playing bass with Duane and Rhino on those. Dickey sang the Shoes Blues one and Duane sang Hey Joe. The last one was live at the Jacksonville Beach Coliseum. I was playing bass on that as well. That's the one with the MC (Alan Facemier our manager).

There is a long 19 min jam that is missing from your collection. It may have been one of the ones Duane talked about inspiring him to start the ABB. I think there may be one more I haven't heard yet. I am trying to get it. The tapes you have have been copied over and over again to the point of bad distortion. I have the originals and plan to create a CD set called the Birth of Southern Rock as soon as I can clean them up.

One thing I want to make clear. Out of all of the Jacksonville jams, we would go home after playing until sunrise and stay up and listen to the music from the night before. There were several long spontaneous jams with different people trading places playing. I have a 19 minute one that the tape ran out on so it was really longer than that. Duane loved all of those long jams but I think that one of them may have stood out more to him. It probably had the original guys who would become the ABB without Gregg in that particular jam. Gregg was not in town yet for most of the jams. What I'm saying is that one jam may have made him make his final decision on who he would start the band with and when Gregg hit town they started rehearsing their original tunes which were mostly Gregg and Dickey's. You could call that The Jacksonville Jam but it has to stay in context of many jams that formed the dual and triple part harmonys on guitars. Those harmony guitar ideas started spontaneously in the jams between Dickey, Rhino & Duane. Later when they began to put songs together, they used these harmony ideas as part of their arrangements that the world fell in love with.

Richard Hombre Price


05/04/69 @ Central City Park, Macon (1 disc)

There has previously been a question mark over the legitimacy of this one, as the Park that the band were more famously known to play in was Piedmont Park in Atlanta, and according to people who attended those shows the first such free show was a week after the alleged date of this show. It has been confirmed by Macon residents, however, that the band did indeed play gigs in Central City Park in Macon, so the purported venue for this recording may well be legitimate. Whether the date is correct or not is still debatable, but the tracks, and the versions of them, are certainly of the era, and the disc is not an obvious compilation of tracks from other known shows. (Note that some traded versions of this show have the 3 tracks from 01/20/70 as filler tracks on the end).

01/16/70 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (1 disc)

01/26/70 (aka 01/20/70) @ University Of California, Riverside (1 disc)

There are only three genuine tracks from this date – “Blues Jam”, “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed” & “Oh Pretty Woman” – but most versions also have “Dreams” as a filler track, which is actually from the 02/01/71 Whiskey A Go-Go show.

Whilst 01/20/70 is the date that this show has always been traded under, the correct date is thought to be 01/26/70. The first piece of evidence doubting the 01/20 date is the following that is published in the UCR (University of California – Riverside) timeline database:

Jan. 24, 1970 -- The Allman Brothers Band spend the afternoon playing soulful rock on the grassy knoll near the bell tower. Crowd size varies all day.

The ABB database has them listed as playing the Whiskey A-Go-Go in Los Angeles from Thursday 22nd to Sunday 25th inclusive, so with Riverside being a suburb of LA it would make sense that the free gig was during this time. However, the ABB database also has them listed as playing the Fillmore West in San Francisco from Thursday 15th to Sunday 18th inclusive, so as they were on the west coast for that entire period then either date could potentially be true.

Further enlightenment is provided by a friend of the taper who was in attendance, “tonewoods”, who wrote the following:

OK, if I had to bet the farm on a date, I would go with the 26th...

I'm probably the source for the 20th date, based on who-knows-what 35 years ago...
This was way before I had access to the Whisky dates, the internet, etc. etc...
It was a guess, and in retrospect, a pretty good one...
I used to trade tapes heavily back in the day (including this one), and that's how the date got written into the record....

OK, here's what I do know...

Duane told me that they had just come from the Whiskey the previous evening, and I got the impression they were just killing time on a beautiful January day in the California desert on their way to the next gig...
They had a Winnebago, and an equipment truck...
I'd say this gig took place on a weekday. I remember cutting classes, and Craig (the taper) was on his way to class w/tape recorder in hand, by chance...

What circulates is probably my tape transfer (especially if your copy has the Whiskey "Dreams" tacked onto it)...
For you folks who haven't had a listen to the tape, Duane's solo on "Oh Pretty Woman" is worth the price of admission...
It smokes, and really stands the test of time, and just hints at what the band sounded like that day...


As the 24th was a Saturday, this info would seem to conflict with the UCR database.

“tonewoods goes on to say:

They just played the Whiskey the night before, and were not in any hurry to get anywhere, much less hustle back into LA, set up again, and resume their Whiskey engagement...

As the final gig at the Whiskey was Sunday 25th, then this seems like a pretty convincing argument for Monday 26th being the correct date.

02/11/70 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 disc)
02/14/70 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 disc)


The above two shows fall into a grey area with regards to tradability, because there was a commercial release by Grateful Dead Records – “Fillmore East Feb ‘70” – that is a compilation of tracks from these two shows. The commercial CD is no longer available however, and it seems unlikely that it will ever be re-released, so let your conscience guide you. This compilation also crops up in trading circles listed as 02/13/70, and although the ABB did play that night, 02/11 and 02/14 are the only known traded recordings and the compilation known as 02/13/70 is therefore a bogus show.

03/13/70 @ The Warehouse, New Orleans (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available ~ V2 in 2014}

04/04/70 @ Ludlow Garage, Cincinnatti (2 discs)

This show was not considered to be tradable following the 1990 commercial release “Live At Ludlow Garage 1970”, although the audience taped version of the show was still sought after as it was complete, including the track “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed” that was omitted from the 1990 commercial release. Subsequently, however, a superbly remastered version of the complete show was officially released in 2015 as bonus discs on the 45th Anniversary Super Deluxe Edition re-issue of Idlewild South.

04/28/70 @ SUNY Gym, Stony Brook (2 discs)
{scotiadave remaster available}

The Mountain Jam on the two disc version of this show is still incomplete (cutting out before the end) however, it is 7 minutes longer than the MJ on the one disc version of this show that also circulates in the trading circles (perhaps curtailed by a bootlegger to get it to fit on one disc).

05/02/70 @ Swarthmore College (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

05/??/70 @ Georgian Terrace Hotel Ballroom – Atlanta (1 disc - partial)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available – “Peach Cobbler 6”}

Currently, there is only the final tune from the main set (Mountain Jam) and the encore (Don’t Want You No More / It’s Not My Cross To Bear) available. It was originally hoped that the rest of the show would also be transcribed from analogue tape to digital by Johnny Sandlin and then given to Skip to be remastered, however this did not happen before Skip sadly passed away.

This is a contender for the best version of “Mountain Jam” by the original band, played with such dynamic enthusiasm. It would be wonderful to be able to hear the rest of this show, the full track listing of which is given below, although with the passing of time this appears more and more unlikely.

Intro
Statesboro Blues > Jam
Trouble No More
Every Hungry Woman
Dimples
Elizabeth Reed
Outskirts of Town
Whipping Post
Mountain Jam

Don’t Want You No More >
It’s Not My Cross To Bear


Tracks in bold are all that are currently available

For those interested in the basic background behind this recording, the following are a few snippets of quotes by Ann Sandlin:

The tape with the show was discovered in a trunk along with a number of other historically interesting tapes Johnny had long thought were stolen when our garage was cleaned out several years ago. It took a while before we even listened to the tapes and then a while longer before Johnny transferred the Mountain Jam to DAT.

It wasn't long after the music was transferred that a copy of the DAT was given to KW with the caveat he had to promise to not try to do anything with it. Johnny didn't think it would be anything Polygram would be interested in, but he felt honor bound to offer it to them in hopes the band and Berry and Duane's heirs would benefit from any sales. Polygram wasn't interested and the tape sat in our safe for a few more years.

After the record company passed, Johnny was all for releasing it for trading, however the original quality of the tape wasn't very good. When Skip offered his mastering services if we ever needed them, we sent him the Mountain Jam. Skip worked on it for several weeks before he felt it was ready to go and now, it's finally out there for everyone to enjoy.

At the time Skip was working on the CD we were trying to figure out where (and when) it was recorded. The box had Atlanta written on it and after doing some research Skip came up with the date listed on the album (5/23/70). Since the CD has been released and listened to, Johnny remembered the tape had been recorded at Alex Cooley's Ballroom.

I talked more with Johnny and got some additional information he remembered....sometimes he has no idea what he knows until I drag it out of him....but the tape for certain was recorded in Atlanta at an event promoted by Alex Cooley. I don't know who recorded it, but Duane got it to Johnny to keep.


The date on the original “Peach Cobbler 6” has since been proved to be wrong, it is still not known what the correct date is, but the general consensus due to the development level of the Mountain Jam is that it is from spring 1970, probably May. One thing that has been verified is the venue, which is the Ballroom at the Georgian Terrace Hotel in Atlanta.

Many thanks to Skip for his unending diligence in remastering this gem, to Ann for making sure this was available for us all to enjoy, to Johnny for keeping this treasure for us and of course to Duane who was absolutely on fire this night and surely must have realised what a wonderful recording it was that he was passing on to his friend.

06/14/70 @ Piedmont Park, Atlanta (1 disc)

There are only three genuine tracks from this date – “Oh Pretty Woman”, “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed” & “Blues Jam” (a different jam to the one on 01/20/70) – but most versions also have a “Mountain Jam” filler track, which is actually from the 09/27/70 Piedmont Park show.

??/??/70 @ Tampa National Guard Armory {aka "TAMPA ’70"} (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper remaster available}

This is a partial recording of the first set of an ABB gig with Gregg conspicuously absent, consequently Duane (and oddly, not Berry) takes over the vocal duties, and Reese Wynans sits in on keyboards.

Set 1:
Statesboro Blues (just the ending going into a Statesboro Jam)
Trouble No More (Duane vocal)
Goin' Down Slow (Duane vocal)
Tuning
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed

At the end of this recording, Duane says "we'll be right back in 5 minutes". One can only hope that another tape reel with Set 2 shows up somewhere down the line.

Recorded by Dave Boswell ~ Tape Transfer by Matt Smith

Lineage: MR > ? >> BASF reel @ 3-3/4 IPS > Akai GX-636 > Apogee Mini Me (24/96) > Apogee Mini > Dac (monitoring/mastering) > Wavelab 5.0 (Dithered to 16/44) > CD > Capt. Skipper for further mastering.

Bruce (tonewoods), who provided this recording to the ABB trading community stated the following:

I'm calling this recording "Tampa '70" for no other reason than that is what was written on the tape box, but the truth is we don't have confirmation as to the date and venue.

Skip (CaptSkipper) Littlewood subsequently added:

Pretty sure we got us a venue for the show. My buddy, Jack Weston, got through to Reese Wynans today and chatted. Reese said he remembers the show and that Duane called him to play. His recollection, that he said he is 98% sure of, is that the gig was at the Tampa National Guard Armory. Unfortunately, he could not pin down a date.

07/03/70 @ Atlanta Pop Festival, Byron (2 discs)
07/05/70 @ Atlanta Pop Festival, Byron (2 discs)

{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

The above two shows are not considered to be tradable any longer due to the commercial release “Live At The Atlanta International Pop Festival”, which is still available.

07/09/70 @ SUNY Stony Brook (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

Set List:
Dreams
Midnight Rider
Elizabeth Reed
Whipping Post >
Mountain Jam

This recording was obtained for us by Anthony Spare, an ex SUNY student who only just started collecting live shows last year (2016). He told us the following:

I "ran into" George Geranios via the ABB Stony Brook comment section on YouTube a few months ago in 2016, and he sent me this CD in the mail stating it is Seth Dworken's recording of the 7/9/70 Stony Brook Summer Orientation Pre-Concert.”

When the date of the show was brought into question, due to the known show on 7/10/70 when the ABB opened for Mountain, Anthony went on to say:

I spoke with George again and specifically asked him about the date. George said it was a warm up solo gig by the ABB and it for sure happened on the 9th, he was in attendance along with Seth Dworken. He said that there were maybe 50 people in the Gym, and it was billed as an "Orientation Pre-Concert". The early show on the 10th (which George also has a recording of) was the "regular concert" where the ABB opened for Mountain. That is why the early show on the 10th is shorter, it is an opening act set. On the 9th they stretched out because they could. No other act played.

Moyssi, who was a lighting director for SUNY Stony Brook during this time and was friends with both George Geranios and Seth Dworken who ran the sound, adds the following:

My favorite fact is that we paid the Allman Brothers all of $300 for their first gig in our gym. It was a Thursday night with just the ABB in 1970, followed by them opening for two shows with Mountain on Friday. ABB did Stormy Monday, which Mountain also did as the headliner. After the early show, Leslie West wisely asked if he could open for ABB on the late show. What a friggin' wonderful show that turned out to be.

Many, most, maybe all of those shows were recorded with permission on an Ampex 300 or 301 from the sound mixer. Seth Dworkin was the mixer - a brainiac who went on to win a Grammy with the Grateful Dead and direct satellite operations for Wall Street Journal - he kept all the original recordings (made on Scotch professional 1/4" tape supplied by me). He died of Crohn's disease last summer, just after we got reacquainted and he verified that he still had all the tapes.

The Problem is that I can't figure out how to get in touch with the family and those tapes would need careful attention. I had a primary dub of the 1970 ABB/Mountain gig and ABB's archivist, Kirk West, told me it was the best FOH mixer recording he'd ever heard of the band. That was after they released the famous 1971 performance at Stony Brook that was recorded just weeks before the tragic motorcycle fatalities.


07/10/70 @ SUNY Stony Brook – Early Show (1 disc)
{Remaster not yet available}

Set List:
Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
Stormy Monday
Dreams
You Don't Love Me

(See 07/09/70 above for further info on this recording)

07/10/70 (aka 07/26/70) @ SUNY Gym, Stony Brook – Early & Late Show Compilation (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

Set List:
Don't Keep Me Wonderin'
Stormy Monday
In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed
You Don't Love Me
Dreams
Mountain Jam

Whilst 07/26/70 is the date that this show has often been traded under, the correct date is actually 07/10/70.

The first piece of evidence regarding the correct date for the show was provided by Don (dzobo) Sobocinski, who was attending S.U.N.Y. at the time. He wrote the following:

I'd like to clear up the date regarding the band's performance at Stony Brook in July (1970). During that summer, Stony Brook ran a special summer concert series that as an SB student on Long Island I had a particular interest in. The Allman Brothers only performed once (that summer), and that was as an opener for Mountain. I was at that show. Based on the work I was doing that summer, I could not have attended a Sunday show. I was working at Jones Beach and management requested that you work on weekends (especially Sundays, by far the busiest day) and take your off days Monday through Friday. 7/10/70 was a Friday and 7/26/70 a Sunday, so the show that actually occurred has to be 7/10/70. I know all the tape copies continue to list 7/26/70, and I believe that the set list and locale are correct, but the date is 7/10/70. Specifically I remember the show I attended opened with "Don't Keep Me Wonderin" which was a pretty rare event. I also recall "Stormy Monday" and "Mountain Jam".

The second set of clues come from the ABB database. It has S.U.N.Y. shows listed under both dates, however, for the 7/10/70 show, the database states that the date has been verified by a ticket stub, whereas for the 7/26/70 show, it states that according to the archivist for Mountain they were in Jacksonville on this night playing with Jethro Tull, and so could not have played at SUNY with the ABB this night.

The final verification came from Skip (captskipper) Littlewood, who wrote:

To further comment on the verification of the 7/10/70 date, I contacted a fellow about a year ago who was on the StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that tape together. Just for everyone's info & records, the circulating material is in fact a compilation of the early and late shows from 7/10/70 and not one show.

It is therefore confirmed that 07/10/70 is the correct date for the show(s), a fact that is further verified by the discovery of the 07/09/70 show above.

07/17/70 @ Love Valley Festival (2 discs)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

07/19/70 @ Love Valley Festival (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

09/04/70 @ The Scene, Milwaukee (2 discs)

09/23/70 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 DVD)

09/27/70 @ Piedmont Park, Atlanta (1 disc) – Mountain Jam only

12/13/70 @ American University, Washington DC (2 discs)
NOT FOR TRADE – ABB Archive #1 Commercial Release

12/31/70 @ The Warehouse, New Orleans (3 discs)
{V2 extraction by John Dubois available}

John Dubois (who worked at the Warehouse and later taped the 09/16/71 show) tells us:

The taper of the New Years Eve ABB 12/31/70 Warehouse show was my friend Chaffe, in the audience with a brand new invention called the portable stereo cassette recorder. Chaffe and his high school buddies, ultra-ABB-fans, with the intention of just having a home personal recording of the band recorded the show, complete with comical comments & NYE interviews: ("A man from Lafayette..."; "Sit down you bastards !" ; "Fkn dynamite man"... "yeah they are"!).

01/17/71 @ Syria Mosque, Pittsburg (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available ~ V2 in 2014}

01/23/71 @ Capitol Theater, Port Chester - Early Show (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

Set List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / Midnight Rider / Dreams / You Don’t Love Me / Whipping Post

01/23/71 @ Capitol Theater, Port Chester - Late Show (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

Set List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / You Don’t Love Me / Johnny B Goode / Whipping Post / Hot 'Lanta

01/29/71 @ Winterland, San Francisco (1 disc)
(aka 01/28/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco)

{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

Whilst this audience recording has often been traded as 01/28/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco, there is considerable evidence to suggest that this is in fact neither the correct date nor the correct venue for this recording. Regarding the date, “Wolfgang’s Vault” has a partial soundboard recording of tracks that are clearly from the same show, and that is listed as 01/29/71. Regarding the venue, according to Kim Payne (ABB Roadie) the 29th was actually played at Winterland, not the Fillmore West. In further discussions about this, Joseph Campbell (ABB Roadie – “Red Dog”) also recalled having to move Greggs Hammond B3 Organ across the city for one show at Winterland after a show at the Fillmore West. So it would seem that although the ABB had originally been booked to play the 28th, 29th, 30th & 31st at the Fillmore West, after playing there on the 28th for some reason (possibly technical or booking issues) they had to move over to Winterland for the 29th, then go back to the Fillmore for the 30th & 31st. The final piece of evidence comes from a radio recording that is in circulation where the DJ announces “And now, live from Winterland, here’s Whipping Post from the Allman Brothers”, and it is the same version of Whipping Post that is on the traded show. So, in conclusion, this recording is almost certainly 01/29/71 @ Winterland, San Francisco (and not the 01/28/71 Fillmore West show, of which no known recording would appear to exist).

Track List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Dreams / You Don’t Love Me / Whipping Post

01/30/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (1 disc)
{Remastered Soundboard Recording}

This show falls into a grey area with regards to tradability, as it is a remastered soundboard recording that was prepared as part of the ABB Archive Release programme. The show was never issued however, and following the passing of Butch Trucks, who was the one member of the band who fully supported the release of these archive shows, it may never be. Copies of the show are known to exist in private trading circles however.

Track List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / Tuning / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Stormy Monday / You Don’t Love Me / Whipping Post

01/31/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

The freely traded version of this show is an audience recording that has the following track list: Disc 1 - Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Hoochie Coochie Man / Dreams … Disc 2 - You Don’t Love Me / Hot ’Lanta / Whipping Post

There is a second version of this show however, which falls into a grey area with regards to tradability as it is a remastered soundboard recording that was prepared as part of the ABB Archive Release programme. The recording was never issued however, but copies are known to exist in private trading circles with the following track list: Disc 1 - Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Hoochie Coochie Man / Dreams / You Don’t Love Me … Disc 2 - Hot ’Lanta / Whipping Post / One Way Out # / Mountain Jam #

# FillerTracks: “One Way Out” is from the 06/16/71 show at the Municipal Auditorium in Birmingham and “Mountain Jam” is from the 03/13/70 show at the Warehouse in New Orleans.

02/01/71 (aka 10/02/71) @ Whiskey A Go-Go, LA (1 disc)

There are only five genuine tracks from this date – “Statesboro Blues”, “Don’t Keep Me Wondering”, “Midnight Rider”, “Dreams” & “Hot ’Lanta” – but most traded versions also have a “Mountain Jam” filler track, which is actually from the 07/21/71 Central Park (late) show.

There has been some debate over the correct date for this show, which is also often traded as 10/02/71. There is not much of a clue in the set list, as the tracks on this recording could be from either date. There is also not much of a geographical clue from the known concert dates adjacent to the two possible dates either, because 02/01 is directly after the four shows at the Fillmore West (& Winterland) in San Fransisco, and the October date is sandwiched between a San Diego gig and a Washington State gig at the start of an autumn West Coast run. Perhaps Sat 2nd Oct, with a known gig on the Friday before and the Sunday after, might be considered the more likely of the two dates, especially with Mon 1st Feb being after a Thursday to Sunday four day run in San Francisco, but this is not conclusive.

The most convincing evidence in favour of the October date is a series of photographs of Duane (allegedly) from the “Whiskey” where he is playing his Les Paul Tobacco Sunburst, which he did not get until June ’71. If these photos are from the “Whiskey”, then it may well be that the ABB played there on both dates, because the overwhelming evidence that is in favour of this recording being from the February date comes from the recording itself, where at the end of the last track Duane says to the audience “That’s a new song we just played for you, it’s called Hot ‘Lanta”. This track was far from new by October. Furthermore, in mid '71 Duane and Dickey switched their order of solos on "Statesboro Blues" and on this recording it is in the earlier format. So, in conclusion, these last two facts make Whiskey A Go-Go verifiable as 02/01/71.

02/28/71 @ Brewer Field House, Columbia (2 discs)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

There are two sources of this show, a partial show that is of reasonably good quality (A- ?) and a complete show that is of poorer quality (B+ ?). What is normally traded is a hybrid, mixed source show.

03/13/71 @ Fillmore East, NYC (2 discs)

This show was never considered to be tradable due to some of the tracks being on the commercial release “At Fillmore East” (which is a compilation of live tracks from different nights / shows of the March 1971 run). This is a partial recording of the 03/13/71 late show comprising six tracks, four of which are versions that are on the "At Fillmore East" album, and two “Statesboro Blues” & “One Way Out” that are not. Subsequently, in 2015 a box set of all of the 1971 Fillmore East shows was released ("The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings") which includes the complete 3/13 show.

03/20/71 @ The Warehouse, New Orleans (3 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available of disc 3 only – Mountain Jam}
{V2 extraction by John Dubois available}

03/25/71 @ St. Catherine's, Minneapolis (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

04/??/71 @ Ski Lodge (Gatlinburg Studios) (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

This original 1 disc compilation has been remastered and split onto two discs, and two bonus tracks have been added at the end. The first bonus track is an alternate studio version of “Loan Me A Dime” by Boz Scaggs with Duane, and the second bonus track is the only known live recording of “Little Martha” by Duane, which was recorded backstage at the Municipal Auditorium in Birmingham on 06/16/71.

05/02/71 @ CCNY, NYC (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

05/09/71 @ Overton Park, Memphis (1 disc)

06/05/71 @ The Warehouse, New Orleans (1 disc)
{V2 extraction by John Dubois available}

John Dubois (who worked at the Warehouse and later taped the 09/16/71 show) tells us:

The tapers of ABB 06/05/71 are the same crew that taped the New Years Eve ABB 12/31/70 Warehouse show, being my friend Chaffe and his high school buddies, ultra-ABB-fans, with the intention of just having a home personal recording of the band. So, Chaffe was the source for ABB 06/05/71.

06/16/71 @ Municipal Auditorium, Birmingham (1 disc)

There are two sources of this show, one complete and one partial, the partial recording being slightly better quality than the complete one. A hybrid of the two recordings has yet to be compiled.

06/27/71 @ Fillmore East, NYC (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

This show is no longer tradable since the release of the deluxe version of “Eat A Peach”, which has this show as a bonus second disc and is therefore now commercially available. The commercial release does not have the introduction by Bill Graham, however, neither does it have all of the comments by Duane between tracks.

07/05/71 @ Steel Pier, Atlantic City (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

07/17/71 @ Municipal Auditorium, Atlanta – Early Show (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}
(Missing Mountain Jam encore)

07/21/71 @ Central Park, NYC – Early Show (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

07/21/71 @ Central Park, NYC – Late Show (2 discs)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

07/24/71 @ Superball Fest, St Paul (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

08/14/71 @ Richmond Arena (1 disc)

08/15/71 @ Academy Of Music, NYC (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}
The first of only four known recordings with Duane playing Blue Sky.

08/17/71 @ Boston Common (1 disc)
NOT FOR TRADE – ABB Archive #5 Commercial Release

08/26/71 @ A&R Studios, NYC (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}

09/11/71 @ Littlejohn Coliseum, Clemson (2 discs)
{Masahiko Remaster available}
The second of only four known recordings with Duane playing Blue Sky.

There was a one disc partial show version available as a bootleg that was slightly better quality than the two disc complete show (although from the same source tape). Masahiko’s remaster combines the partial bootleg version with the missing tracks from the original source to provide a complete show.

09/16/71 @ The Warehouse, New Orleans (3 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster of V3 extraction available}
{V5 extraction by John Dubois available}
The third of only four known recordings with Duane playing Blue Sky.

This show is considered by most to be as good as it gets with regards to Duane era ABB shows. The most recent remaster of it was completed by CaptSkipper in January 2007 from John Dubois’ V3 extraction from the original tapes, and his comments were as follows:

“Well, after about a year of it I’ve finally finished up the new updated 9/16/71. The source is from the original John Dubois recording of the Warehouse show in New Orleans. John told me on the phone that the tape deck used for the new transfer is a Sony TC 355, on which he re-aligned the play heads and added an additional potentiometer to control the tape speed due to linear speed-ups and slow-downs on the original tape. This source is the 3rd transfer John has done of this superb show, and his best effort yet as far as I’m concerned. The original deck used for recording the show was hidden off to the side of the stage, and the AKG Dynamic vocal microphones were hidden (not hanging) in the rafters. According to John, the silent gap in the Whipping Post was not due to the recorder running out of tape, but rather when he actually had the opportunity to get to the tape deck undetected to flip the tape to side two. The Whipping Post silent gap has again been patched, as in my other re-master of it, although I like this patch better (my apologies to the purist collectors for repairing the gap). Along with the normal mastering procedures, a great deal of the time spent on this project was aimed at trying to bring up Gregg’s vocals that were low in the original recording. I feel I was successful bringing the vocal presence up to some extent and hope the traders enjoy this updated re-master (which by the way probably won’t be the last effort on this great recording by John Dubois). Many thanks to John for having the foresight to record this, and I also thank John for the opportunity to work on his show” – CaptSkipper (Jan 2007).

John DuBois has since made a couple of newer extractions from the original tapes, the latest of which (V5) is the cleanest yet, but to date (April 2017) this has not been remastered to bring out the vocals. John's story regarding the taping is documented in: "The Taping Story of 9/16/71, ABB at a Warehouse", link below:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=80657#pid

09/17/71 @ Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

09/19/71 @ SUNY, Stony Brook (1 disc)

This show is not considered to be tradable due to the ABB Archive #2 commercial release. The ABB Archive #2 is a two disc version, and is the fourth of only four known recordings with Duane playing Blue Sky. The originally traded version, however, is a one disc version that when compared to the commercial release would appear to be missing “Blue Sky”, "You Don’t Love Me” and "Mountain Jam”. It comprises seven tracks, five of which are the same versions that are on the commercial release, but two “One Way Out” & “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed” that are different, suggesting that perhaps the commercial release is a combination of tracks from the early and late shows, whereas the originally traded show might be just from the early show.

09/28/71 @ Municipal Auditorium, Austin (1 disc)
{Masahiko Remaster available}

10/15/71 @ Syria Mosque, Pittsburgh (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}
The last known live recording with Duane .....


LAST UPDATED 04 / 10 / 2017 ...























[Edited on 4/10/2017 by harvey]

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 01:24 PM
Thanks go out to Colin for the DUANE ERA ABB RECORDED SHOWS post above.

[Edited on 9/4/2007 by captskipper]

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 01:32 PM
SPECTACULAR information!!!! I mostly seek and collect Duane era recordings, but looking over this list, I now realize I don't have half of them. I must get BUSY!

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 01:41 PM
A begger asks if anyone cares to offer up the Brewer Field House discs...

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 03:28 PM
Haven't gone through it with a fine tooth comb, but you appear to have done a great job, Harvey. A much needed job. Another interesting note about 05/04/69 . . . no Dickey !

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 07:30 PM
Great work, Colin! The only thing that I believe to be different from my original list is the Whiskey A Go Go. I think(?) the correct date is 10/2/71.
 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 09:27 PM
Nice.
This inspires me to review my list again.

 

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  posted on 9/4/2007 at 11:12 PM
Thank you for your really great work Colin!
This is the current availble best summary of ABB Duane era recordings.
Greatly appreciated.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2007 at 04:56 AM
Dittos all around -- getting this info all in one thread is fantastic -- thanks indeed Colin!
The cassette I have of the Jacksonville Armory has a "Richie" (I think) playing bass w/Duane, Dickey, Butch & Jaimoe -- BO I think was not at this gig --

 

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  posted on 9/5/2007 at 07:30 AM
4-28-70 is a 2 disker Colin, remember Homeboy had the extra 20 mins on Mountain Jam

 

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4-28-70 is a 2 disker Colin, remember Homeboy had the extra 20 mins on Mountain Jam


Thanks Dave ... I had updated my personal list but forgot to change this one ... now duly edited accordingly

 

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Dittos all around -- getting this info all in one thread is fantastic -- thanks indeed Colin!
The cassette I have of the Jacksonville Armory has a "Richie" (I think) playing bass w/Duane, Dickey, Butch & Jaimoe -- BO I think was not at this gig --


Yes indeed, the band introductions on Track 3 of Disc 2 do say "Richard on Bass" and I believe that it is Richard Price ("The Load"). This is one of the reasons for my thinking that this "show" is actually compiled from more than one show, because Berry is clearly on vocals on some of the tracks. It has also been said that Larry Reinhardt ("Iron Butterfly") may also be on some of the tracks. I doubt if we will ever know for sure after all this time, but it is a great piece of ABB history to treasure.

Any more info gratefully received




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What a great reference, Colin. Like Beverly said, I need to review what I have to see if there are any holes. Thanks a lot!!

 

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What a great reference! I'll check my collection and see what I'm missing.

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Yes indeed, the band introductions on Track 3 of Disc 2 do say "Richard on Bass" and I believe that it is Richard Price ("The Load"). This is one of the reasons for my thinking that this "show" is actually compiled from more than one show, because Berry is clearly on vocals on some of the tracks. It has also been said that Larry Reinhardt ("Iron Butterfly") may also be on some of the tracks. I doubt if we will ever know for sure after all this time, but it is a great piece of ABB history to treasure.

Any more info gratefully received


I met Richard Price several years ago and acquired a cassette tape of this "show". Before I came to this site, I was sure I had some sort of rarity. Come to find the traded one has more music than what I had. I would guess it's from more than one date . . . and that it is Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt on there also.

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Yes indeed, the band introductions on Track 3 of Disc 2 do say "Richard on Bass" and I believe that it is Richard Price ("The Load"). This is one of the reasons for my thinking that this "show" is actually compiled from more than one show, because Berry is clearly on vocals on some of the tracks. It has also been said that Larry Reinhardt ("Iron Butterfly") may also be on some of the tracks. I doubt if we will ever know for sure after all this time, but it is a great piece of ABB history to treasure.

Any more info gratefully received


I met Richard Price several years ago and acquired a cassette tape of this "show". Before I came to this site, I was sure I had some sort of rarity. Come to find the traded one has more music than what I had. I would guess it's from more than one date . . . and that it is Larry Reinhardt on there also. I tried to pump Richard for Duane stories, but he was a little guarded, but maybe I was just hurt that when he heard me play he said only the I'd "been listening to the right people". A backhanded "compliment" if I ever heard one.


Thanks for the input Stephen, much appreciated. It would be interesting to know what tracks were on that tape that Richard gave to you, and any information you might have about when it was recorded.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2007 at 06:11 PM
i hate to ask a stupid question but how do i get some of this---particulaly 2/11--to be honest i am a computer idiot & i know how to type & post links--that's it & can't download or burn,etc...is there an online place to purchase these gems--particularly good sound quality copies??

 

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Thanks Colin!
Makes me feel like trading again, I've got plenty of holes in my Duane era collection....

Effie - shows can't be bought or downloaded, but I bet if you asked in the Trades section of the Forum, many folks would be happy to help you out with copies...

 
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Makes me feel like trading again, I've got plenty of holes in my Duane era collection....

Effie - shows can't be bought or downloaded, but I bet if you asked in the Trades section of the Forum, many folks would be happy to help you out with copies...


Hi Jim ... yes indeed Effie ... NEVER sold, only given away ... keep your eye on the KCJIMMY LOUNGE FREEBIE A DAY thread ... due to the interest being shown I for one will be offering up Duane "Freebies" when it is my turn

 

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Hi Colin, the gratitude is all mine bro, your post here is a real keeper -- and, as I read it again, I see that you do indeed note the MC saying "Richard on bass" -- I overlooked that before! Anyways, I do believe what you have on two CDs most likely is indeed two shows -- my cassette copy is simply called "Jacksonville Jam" & goes like this:
Don't Want You jam
Rock Me Baby
Crossroads
Born in Chicago
Blues Jam (?)
Born Under A Bad Sign
What D'ya Want From Me
Hey Joe (Duane singing)
I Got The Blues

introductions
Traveling Music
end of show

This cassette sounds like one show to me, but homeboy seems to think his cassette copy, which he acquired from one Richard Price, may be two -- the plot thickens!
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I dug out my cassette copy of the partial of the "Jacksonville Jam" tape. I don't know if this just confuses the issue more, but here goes.
My friend Tim Carroll played with Richard Price about ten years ago and the tape is labelled in Tim's handwriting, presumably from information provided by Richard.
Tha cassette itself is labeled "Second Coming and The Load jamming '68 & '69"
The insert says "Second Coming/The Load '68 and '69 Duane Allman & Jaimo guests"
The rest of the insert says, under side A
1st two songs
Rich Price - bass
Reese Wynans - keys
Jaimo - congas
Duane Allman - lead guitar
Dickie (sic) Betts - vocal
Butch Trucks - drums

This seems to refer to the slow blues (certainly sounds like it's sung by Dickey, and it sounds like he's playing lead-doing his best B.B. King imitation- in the first half) and the "Traveling Music" fast blues. BTW, in the band introduction between these two cuts, can anyone tell what the MC says right after he says "Reese" ? Sounds like "Reese and . . . ? ". Doesn't sound like "Reese Wynans". Is it another musician's name . . . ?

Then the insert says
3rd song
Larry Rhinehart (sic) & Duane
guitars
Berry Oakley - bass

This seems to refer to the Jam in A, which to my ears sounds like Berry playing bass, and someone who is not Duane or Dickey playing lead guitar at the beginning.

Under "side B", the label says
2nd song
Larry Rhinehart (sic) & Duane
guitars

Here it starts to get really confusing.
The tape cassette turns over in the middle of "Jam in A" (sacrilege !). Then we hear "Hey Joe", which sounds like Duane singing and playing lead at the beginning (then singing along with his own lead ?). There's a solo in there that sounds like someone who is not Duane or Dickey. This ends and you hear someone (Duane ? Berry ?) say "(unintelligible) in C , coming down from the G ". This snippet is not on the CD copy I got. That is how someone might call a 12 bar blues, but I cannot match it with any of the tunes. It could go into the slow blues that Dickey sings (?), but on my cassette that's in B. Kind of an unusual key, the tape speed might be off, except that "Travelin' Music", which follows without a break, is in G, a very usual key. . . .
Then we hear "Born Under a Bad Sign" (sounds like Berry singing) , after which someone says "She has funny cars. Y'all want to do . . .", Then it goes right to the intro of "She Has Funny Cars" and the cassette ends.
So it seems like the "2nd song" the label is refering to is "Hey Joe", and that the music after that is not credited.
The CDs I have I labelled
disc 1 44:35 She Has Funny Cars (Dickey Betts, Dale Betts, Reese Wynans, Berry Oakley, John Meeks), Second Coming/The Load w/Duane, Dickey, Butch, Jaimo, Reese Wynans, Rich Price: Hey Joe (Duane vcl), slow blues in B(?)(Dickey vocal?)( intro), "Travelin' Music" fast blues in G
disc 2 43:41 Second Coming w/Duane: Don't Want You No More, Rock Me Baby, Crossroads, Born In Chicago, Jam in A, Born Under A Bad Sign
but I have to admit, I can't remember what my "documentation" as far as sources was. I'd be very interested if people have a CD version with different sequence, length, or tunes.
The cassette I have may be chopped up from more than one show, the labeling certainly implies that. It's 60 minute cassette, the CDs add up to 90 minutes, so somewhere along the line, some decided it was too much trouble to go out and get a 90 minute cassette . . . (sacrilege !) What the "correct" sequence of songs is, we may never know.
So my conclusion, after spending the better part of my unemployed morning at it, is . . . inconclusive and confusing, but somehow still informative, I hope.
Maybe Stephen will give us some notes on his cassette, which seems to be in the same order as the CDs I have, but contains another song "What D'ya Want From Me".
Happy hunting !



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  posted on 9/9/2007 at 05:14 AM
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  posted on 9/10/2007 at 05:47 AM
Stop causing trouble Steve hehe

 

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Oh, like you haven't done the same kind of thing !

 

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  posted on 9/13/2007 at 06:36 PM
Hey bro, just following up on that good 9/7 post about the "Jacksonville Jam"/whatever we want to call it, tape

Enlightening times indeed when sitting down to really listen closely to it
In brief, I think the tapes we have are probably one and the same
the "What D'Ya Want From Me" title is a mislabel, it's actually She Has Funny Cars
also, was incorrect in my post before about the tape I have probably being one show -- during the introductions at the end of the show the emcee intros, in this order, Duane, Dickey, Jaimoe, Butch, then Richie on bass & Reese on keyboards...
HOWEVER
there is almost no doubt that it's Berry's voice singing on Rock Me Baby, on the first side of the tape -- it sounds like him also on Born Under A Bad Sign, the last song on the first side -- so -- that leads me to believe that, like your tape, mine does consist of two different shows
This is pretty much it in a nutshell as far as the tape I have

A.
Don't Want You No More -- a 10 minute or so take on the Spencer Davis Group song that they led off the first ABB album with -- quite different of course, pretty raw
partial Rock Me Baby -- Reese Wynans organ solo, Duane slide solo, and what sounds like BO lead vox
partial Crossroads -- most likely Dickey lead vocals, wah-wah pedal on lead guitar
Born in Chicago -- definitely Dickey singing, high mix on the organ -- Reese is prominent throught this show
Blues jam (?) -- unsure of title, about a 10-15 minute instrumental jam or so
Born Under a Bad Sign -- BO vox
B.
SHE HAS FUNNY CARS (not What D'ya Want From Me, Stephen ( ) -- easy to understand it came to me labelled like that -- figured out some time back it was indeed SHFC, but had forgotten when I made that post on 9/5) -- anyways, Dickey sang this on the Second Coming version that appears on the Dreams box set -- on this tape though, it's harder to tell -- to my ears it's not like it's definitely Dickey singing -- perhaps Reese -- again, it's kinda hard to tell

Hey Joe -- Duane singing, & as you said in your 9/7 post, scat-singing along during part of his solo
I Got The Blues -- again, unsure of vocals -- perhaps Reese
Introductions -- (see above) -- also, during the intros the emcee says that there will be a jam in the next few days "at the Forest Inn" -- pictures of the band at the Forest Inn have appeared here in the forum
then after the intros the emcee yells out "now for some travelling music" and the tape ends with a 10-15 minute jam or so

thanks homeboy, just wanted to follow up on the posts of last week -- again your thoughts about this tape were right on the money

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