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  posted on 8/9/2007 at 11:54 PM
Who's a better guitarist? Ace or Gregg?
 
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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 07:43 AM
Very different roles. I can't really compare them. Bobby certainly has a more important guitar role in the Dead than Gregg in the ABB.
 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 07:52 AM
Where's AFFS????

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 08:07 AM
I don't really get this comparison...Gregg is a great B-3 player who happens to play acoustic guitar as a second instrument. Bobby IS a guitar player and an excellent one at that - in fact one of the best rhythm players in the history of rock music. Gregg is a wonderful acoustic picker - I love his style and feel he doesn't get enough credit for it, but if Gregg had to play some electric rhythm in complex musical situations like Bob does he simply would not be able to, no way. In fact, I am sure Gregg himself would telll you that. Bob's rhythm playing borders on the genius level, like him or not. This would be like saying whose a better mandolin player Allen Woody or David Grisman or who is a better keyboard player Neil Young or Chuck Leavell?...not a good comparison.

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 08:10 AM
Weir but I am pretty sure Gregg could play slide better than Weir! I am pretty sure I can.

Eddie P hit it onthe head, B3 player vs Rythym Guitarist.Weir is a unique rythym player and does not get the accolades he sometimes deserves.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 09:00 AM
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Weir but I am pretty sure Gregg could play slide better than Weir!
Where and when did Gregg Allman ever play any slide guitar? Can you offer any proof?

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 09:06 AM
Greggy or Bobby?

Marsha could smoke both of them...

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 09:13 AM
I think a better comparison could be Gregg & pig Pen, since Pig Pen like Gregg sometimes played acoustic blues. And since I brought up this comparison I would say that each has their own style of playing acoustic blues. Pig Pen was a hell of a country blues picker. Gregg is a hell of a songwriter, who used the guitar early on to write many of the songs that the Brothers later played electric, such as Come n Go Blues.

On B3 I would dare to say that Gregg is better, since he has taken solos on more songs throughout the years, including Liz Reed, Hot Lanta, High Falls, and Les Brers in A Minor.

Pig Pen's role on B3 provided a nice layering behind the rythmic guitar work of Bob Weir, as is easily recognizable in Dark Star early on. But you don't hear him taking many solos. In fact it appears to me that he sought more of a front man role than anything.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 09:51 AM
You guys dont really think Gregg is a good guitar player...do you?

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 10:02 AM
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You guys dont really think Gregg is a good guitar player...do you?


I do...here is what I said earlier.

"Gregg is a wonderful acoustic picker - I love his style and feel he doesn't get enough credit for it"...

I just can't for the life of me figure out why this is even a good comparison...you have 2 guys whose primary instruments are completely different. Gregg simply can't touch Bob in playing electric rhythm guitar in complex music, it shouldn't even be a discussion, he is a keyboard player...

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 10:25 AM
Try playing Gregg's acoustic part in Come n Go Blues or Midnight Rider, both of which are intricate finger picking rhythms that are hard to nail. And even while Melissa is a straight flat strumming tune it is not a simple rhythm either.

Acoustic Allman Brothers music is so often overlooked & it is a shame. While it seems that Dickey may have been the driving force behind including an acoustic set for a while inthe 90's, it is rare that you see them revisiting many of their best acoustic tunes, like Low Down Dirty Mean & Come On in My Kitchen.

If you haven't explored this sid eof them then do yourself a favor & find this stuff. It will change your mind about Gregg's abilities on acoustic, for one thing.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 10:34 AM
There is a nugget posted by Clay on Youtube of Gregg doing either Come and Go Blues and or Catfish Blues, it's from a radio show with former Turtle Members as the DJ's. I have never heard Gregg play such fine guitar in all my life, if you hear it'll floor you.Afterall Gregg taught Duane to play remember? As far as Ace goes, 30 years with Jerry and he didn't learn an effin thing. The Pigpen era was my favorite era of the Dead ,too bad they were trying to shove him out and he died.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 10:36 AM
Gregg is an excellent acoustic picker. Witnessed that first hand.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 12:01 PM
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I don't really get this comparison...Gregg is a great B-3 player who happens to play acoustic guitar as a second instrument. Bobby IS a guitar player and an excellent one at that


Gregg is a guitar player that switched to B3 because his older Brother was Duane Allman.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 12:07 PM
We ALL know that Mr Wott, but that was 38 years ago or more...so for 38 plus years Gregg is a B-3 player first and foremost.
Now Go put on some Zakk, will ya.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 12:09 PM
I've got to agree with Eddie - don't understand the point of the question since Bob's main role is as guitar player and Gregg's is on B-3 and sometimes accostic.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 12:18 PM
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We ALL know that Mr Wott, but that was 38 years ago or more...so for 38 plus years Gregg is a B-3 player first and foremost.
Now Go put on some Zakk, will ya.


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butt if he switched from guitar to B3 wouldn't B3 be his second instrument?

I ended up playing guitar but It was my third instrument,

just pulling yer leg Eddie!

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 01:05 PM
I have been playing acoustic guitar as long as I've been an Allman Brothers fan. 1973 to be exact. I've owned Les pauls, Strats & SGs over the years, but have always sold them because I'm an acoustic player first. I learned to play "Come & Go Blues" by watching Gregg's hands move up and down the fretboard on the Videotape, "Brothers of the Road". My friend and fellow Guitar player Mark F. taught me the fingering pattern for "Midnight Rider". That being said, here is my .02 cents worth. I think Gregg is an average Guitar player and a "Serviceable" B-3 player. Gregg Allman's musical instrument is his beautifully soulfull singing voice. God is he blessed. The man can flat out sing. Duane could play the guitar and Gregg can sing.
His B-3 playing?... listen to the solos on 'LIz Reed and most of the other standard ABB classics, Gregg's solos are all rehearsed and pretty much the same. You want to hear B-3?..try the improv of Jimmy Smith and then tell me that Gregg is a great B-3 player.
I undertsand that there are fans that will take issue with this, but what the hell, It's only my opinion.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 01:37 PM
I agree with BIGV on this. Gregg's a talented man, but his organ playing isn't his true talent. And yes I have heard Gregg's solo on Hot Lanta.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 02:11 PM
When Gregg is singing and playing acoustic guitar or singing and playing his B-3,
no one could touch him. His bluesy vocals are the best. He has written classics that sound new today. Put all that together and Gregg comes out on top.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 03:37 PM
I like Gregg's Playing but the question was Better Guitarist Weir or Gregg. i gave my opinion.

On Gregg playing slide I offer no proof just sarcasm as I have heard Weir play slide and my farting in the tub has a better sound

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 03:48 PM
we'll take your word on that one, cowboy...

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 03:51 PM
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On Gregg playing slide I offer no proof just sarcasm as I have heard Weir play slide and my farting in the tub has a better sound


Any tapers???

 

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  posted on 8/10/2007 at 05:50 PM
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On Gregg playing slide I offer no proof just sarcasm as I have heard Weir play slide and my farting in the tub has a better sound


Any tapers???


GROSS!!!

 

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  posted on 8/11/2007 at 02:23 PM
It is Gross, Trust me thats how bad Weir plays slide.

I would make a bathroom,beer run in the mid70'swhenever Little red Rooster came on as I knew that tororous screeching was coming. It was truly sad.

 

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