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  posted on 7/2/2007 at 08:56 PM
So, it wasn't so much the show, because all the hits were played well. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves, band and audience alike. Great slide and vocals done by Bobby, and awesome licks by Charlie. Greg T. was right on, as I remember from so many years ago...enjoying himself with the one-year-with-the-band drummer, Michael Sollars.

I was so excited because that afternoon, I was able to put my hands on my 1990 tour shirt (Medicine Man tour). It's black, but there are a few pastel areas on the front, where the feathers are. I thought, "Perfect place for a few signatures"!! So, Sharpie in hand, off my hubby and I headed down the road, driving through 4 states to get to the show.

After the show, there was a meet and greet. I was in line, ready and looking forward to talking to the guys. Sharpie in one hand, shirt in the other, I waited patiently for my turn. Charlie was the first to the table. He seemed impressed as he signed the shirt that I had an older one. After Charlie came Michael. He was very cordial as well, and gladly signed the 'vintage' shirt. I saw Greg coming toward the table, and was really looking forward to saying hi to him. I showed him my shirt, telling him that I had kept it in perfect shape all these years, in hopes that one day I'd get his autograph on it.

Greg took one look at the shirt and said, "I'm not signing that thing." I thought he was totally joking! I even kinda laughed, and still with my Sharpie in hand, thought he would take it out of my hand and sign. No such luck. He made some comment that, "That was when Ricky was doing his solo sh!t, I ain't going to sign that shirt." I was stunned, to say the least. I told Greg (I am no shrinking violet, but I am very tactful), "Well, I remember buying a ticket to the Blackfoot concert, I remember hearing Blackfoot that night on stage, and I bought this Blackfoot t-shirt at the concert." This made no difference, he wasn't budging one bit about his firm decision. I was not expecting this at all.

Well, I didn't want to hold up the line (tactful, remember?), and I figured I didn't want to take a chance and have to go through all that again with Bobby, so I got out of line, and we headed out the door.

It's not like I've followed this band like I have the ABB (nothing comes close to that, except MULE!!), so I am sure that something negative could have transpired in the last almost 20 years...but what? What could have made Greg react like that? The girl behind me couldn't believe it either. She said, "Why couldn't he have at least signed it? What harm would it have done?" I agree. It's not like someone was going to see it anyway, it was just going to one day go on a wall with my 1990 Seven Turns t-shirt that has been signed by the Brothers and their friends. And even if someone ever did see it, would they say, "Hey, wasn't that when Ricky was with the band? I can't believe Greg signed it!!!" Highly doubtful.

Many thanks to anyone who could help clear this up for me.

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  posted on 7/2/2007 at 09:04 PM
thats kind of $hitty Mudflapgirl. I have played with a bunch of bands, a few which are still playing w/o me. Whenever I get the chance to hang out w/ or play w/ those guys, I jump at the oppurtunity. No sense in lettin ego's or jealousy ruin your day. I am sure Ricky isn't sitting around feeling bad for playing back then.

 

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  posted on 7/2/2007 at 09:08 PM
Extremely crappy thing to happen to you....

 

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  posted on 7/2/2007 at 10:18 PM

Other than his rudeness...I don't blame him for not signing it....he was probably embarassed to be associated with what was a subpar Blackfoot album...Rickey being the only original on it.

I bought that album the day it came out....tickled for a new Blackfoot release. What I got was a Medlock solo..that wimped out half way through.

I agree with this dude from AMG:
"This 1991 release was this once-great Southern rock band's swan song. After running out of steam on Atlantic with a string of increasingly overproduced albums, this bloated effort comes across as nothing more than very bad hair metal released approximately five years after the genre had peaked. By this time only Ricky Medlocke is left from the original band, with various local Detroit metal band refugees making up the rest of the lineup. The songwriting is clichéd beyond belief, the playing faceless, and while two of these tracks end up on their Rhino best-of, one really has to wonder why. Little wonder that Medlocke would soon be leaving for the comparative safety of a re-formed Lynyrd Skynyrd. For completists only."

Greg could have been nicer about it though...it's obvious that it hit a "sore" spot with him.

It would have made me feel bad if he acted that way towards me...but you can never tell whats going through someone elses mind at the time.

When Trapeze did the re-union tour in the early 90's....Craig Erickson who played one of the guitars..would not sign my "Medusa" album...although the "originals" did. He said he was not on it...which made sense. He took a flyer for the tour and signed it for me. He was nice about it...with a smile.



Was a nice cover:


Sorry about the bad experience though..

 

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  posted on 7/2/2007 at 10:50 PM
Find comfort that you hit a sore spot with him, he deserved it after the way he acted.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 05:39 AM
LOL...someone needs to see if Dickey Betts will sign a 'Hittin the Note" T-Shirt.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 05:54 AM
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LOL...someone needs to see if Dickey Betts will sign a 'Hittin the Note" T-Shirt.




Gregg signed my Second Set CD sleeve that had a great big Dickey Betts signature on it. I KNOW he saw it. BTW, Dickey was still in the band when he signed it, but not when Gregg did.

Too bad you ran into a 'diva' Mudflap girl.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 06:03 AM
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Find comfort that you hit a sore spot with him, he deserved it after the way he acted.


What Pam said!

Sorry that happened JoLyn!

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 06:18 AM
Don't take it personally. We never know what is going on with someone else. Not to make excuses. In a perfect world, rock stars would sign everything and always meet the fans. In reality most rock stars don't meet their fans after a show. I said most. PERSONALLY I think this guy sounds like a full on jerk and should thank his lucky stars that you cared enough to ask.
I hope you and your husband enjoyed the show, though, they were always a favorite band of mine.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 09:26 AM
I understand what ODR is saying though. He didn't play on what you wanted him to sign.
Not a chance that Dickey would sign a HTN shirt.

That being said he should have handled in differently. Been a nice guy and explained himself and offered to sign something else.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 09:56 AM
This guy sounds like a clueless turd. Blackfoot was big for about 2 minutes in the late 70s. He needs to get a grip and be glad that a handful of people still give a damn enough to pay for a ticket to see the band. And, by the way, many acts that do the post-show signings have it written into their contracts. They're getting paid to do it.
Rockstar Diva BS.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 10:07 AM
Too bad MFG. Stick with the Mule. Much more gracious.

As for Blackfoot, I don't even know them. Who are they? Famous for 2 minutes in the late 70's? Not in NYC.

Seriously, though of course I've heard their name.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 10:15 AM
I hate you had that experience. Some folks need to get their head out of their @##. It was an autograph signing and a meet and greet. Isnt that what they are suppose to do. I could understand if it were something that shows up on ebay to make money off of. Just old fans wanting something they cherish signed. Better luck next time, if there is one..............

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 12:14 PM
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This guy sounds like a clueless turd. Blackfoot was big for about 2 minutes in the late 70s. He needs to get a grip and be glad that a handful of people still give a damn enough to pay for a ticket to see the band. And, by the way, many acts that do the post-show signings have it written into their contracts. They're getting paid to do it.
Rockstar Diva BS.


Some bands have been selling VIP packages. Includes tickets, merch and meet and greet. But besides those instances artists don't get paid for a meet and greet. Not part of a contract. Contract with who? The promoter won't spend money for that. The record companies won't pay an artist to promote themselves either. Meet and greet are designed so that the band can meet the radio (media) people from the area and the retailers. they do this hoping to promote themselves to those that can push the band. This stopped working sometime in the late 70s/early 80s which is why some don't do it.

Others like the Mule continue and actually meet some fans also. The early days of the Mule, they would come out in the club afterwards and meet everyone who stuck around.

Official meet and greets are a pain for most acts and they don't like it. Can make them come across as an **** . Billy Gibbons was so rude to everyone backstage that the other two guys in ZZ Top were embarrased. Left a bad taste in my mouth and many others. A guy wearing a chia pet on his head should be more polite to people. Haven't spent a cent on ZZ since.


Not sure about the Blackfoot guy but he is either an **** or someone who thinks that you should be aware of what you ask him to sign. He might think a true fan should know he wasn't on it. But he could have reacted more politely and suggested signing something else.

I find it hard to believe that Blackfoot even bothers with meet and greets. They can't be drawing that many people to shows. just walk out and meet people like the Mule.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 12:26 PM
Thanks so much for your kind words, y'all. Truly a family around here.

Thanks for the info that I was wondering about, ODR. That removes a big chunk of my curiosity. I agree with those who said that I don't know what was going on with regards to his feelings for Ricky, so it would be unfair of me to judge Greg by not knowing the whole story. Now that I have a better idea, I'm not *as* upset as I was. That being said, I just wish he wasn't so rude about it.

If I had done my homework, I would have known that Greg wasn't with Blackfoot at the time that album came out, or when I saw that particular concert. All I remember was that they sounded pretty damn good, and that Budweiser 32 oz'ers were 5 bucks!!!! I thought that considering that Greg was a co-founder, that he had been a staple with the band, and not taken a hiatus. My bad....

Angelemerald, you can count on me staying true to ABB and Mule. I've never been disappointed with any of those guys, and to me ~ they are true super stars. I don't mean in the glam way, I mean that is what they mean to me. They are true shining stars. And so are all the people I have met through this board and at shows. What an amazing group of fans we are!!!!

Peace, and thanks again for your input and 'condolences'!!!

JoLyn
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I understand what ODR is saying though. He didn't play on what you wanted him to sign.
Not a chance that Dickey would sign a HTN shirt.

That being said he should have handled in differently. Been a nice guy and explained himself and offered to sign something else.


Exactly. Was about to make an identical reply. He handled it badly but i can understand if a musician is reluctant to sign anything from his band while he wasn't in that specific line-up. Actually, i personally wouldn't like to have an autograph on a specific item while that musician wasn't with the band at that time. It wouldn't be "historically" correct. To use an example already used: i wouldn't like Dickey to sign my copy of "Hittin' The Note" even if it would be okay with him. I could think of dozens of other items (both ABB and DB&GS)
for him to sign.

In the same way there's a big chance that Rickey Medlocke wouldn't sign a Blackfoot 2007
Tour shirt but maybe he would handle it better and explain why and would offer to sign
something else.

On another note: i could also understand if a musician would be reluctant or flat out refuse
to sign a specific item (for example some crappy guitar) because he doesn't want it to end up on Ebay. i guess sometimes you just can't tell if somebody is an honest and thrilled fan or just somebody who wants to make an easy buck but sometimes it's kinda obvious. But also in such case such a musician should explain why and not be plain rude.

Still, it's just too bad you had such a dissapointing experience with a band you like. Can be a real bummer.

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 01:30 PM
regardless of everything said, the fans come first and this ahole needs to suck it up, smile and sign. no room for egos for this band at the stage in their career they are at. too bad!

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 02:17 PM
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Yeah...like every band has that theory...LOL !

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 10:14 PM
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Thanks so much for your kind words, y'all. Truly a family around here.

Thanks for the info that I was wondering about, ODR. That removes a big chunk of my curiosity. I agree with those who said that I don't know what was going on with regards to his feelings for Ricky, so it would be unfair of me to judge Greg by not knowing the whole story. Now that I have a better idea, I'm not *as* upset as I was. That being said, I just wish he wasn't so rude about it.

If I had done my homework, I would have known that Greg wasn't with Blackfoot at the time that album came out, or when I saw that particular concert. All I remember was that they sounded pretty damn good, and that Budweiser 32 oz'ers were 5 bucks!!!! I thought that considering that Greg was a co-founder, that he had been a staple with the band, and not taken a hiatus. My bad....

Angelemerald, you can count on me staying true to ABB and Mule. I've never been disappointed with any of those guys, and to me ~ they are true super stars. I don't mean in the glam way, I mean that is what they mean to me. They are true shining stars. And so are all the people I have met through this board and at shows. What an amazing group of fans we are!!!!

Peace, and thanks again for your input and 'condolences'!!!

JoLyn
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I'm glad you did not take my comments as being offensive to your feelings.....

I was thinking about it today....how it must have made you feel. Your excited about getting an autograph and instead you get your feelings hurt. Maybe it's the fact that Ricky used "Hair Metal Dudes" on the album that bothered Greg so much..LOL ! Greg was a founding member. It's amazing how some bands that made so much good music...turn on each other.

Like when Eric Clapton said that at one point..all the members of Cream would ride to the shows in seperate limo's and not even speak to each other.

But I purchased all 3 of the Blackfoot CD's that Ricky did with other members...I liked the way he covered that song "I just can't wait... for Saturday night".



Hopefully later that night...Greg realized how rude he was and felt a little guilty for it...thats what I would like the think...anyway.

[Edited on 7/4/2007 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 11:18 PM
I have met countless "stars" and many have been **** s to someone. They just don't seem to get it. These people are your customers and you should treat them right. Not only does that one person get upset but they tell countless people who tell even more people. Real bad press. Just look at how many here have read about Mudflapgirl's experience and view Greg in a negative way.

Most of the biggest egos/a*sholes end up fading away. Some others just keep raking it in.

Some others are just great- The ABB guys for instance and all of the guys from the Mule.

I saw many go above and beyond for the fans. No one as crazy as Billy Ray Cyrus. 4000 women and me at the show! Got tickets and backstage passes from the company so I grab a date and off to the show. Wasn't expecting much to be honest. Well the band was smoking, three guitarist and all good players really took me by suprise. During the show, I helped a gentleman who had a disabled child in a wheelchair. I talked with the crew and they let them go on the side of the stage. Billy sees the child, smiles and tosses something to him without thinking whether or not the child could catch. Well he couldn't. Nails him in the face. Billy went over mid-song and apologized to the child and chatted for a minute. They set the kid up with all the merch they had. All signed and free. Made his world.

Never got to use the backstage passes. At the end of the show, Billy never left. Started signing off the stage for everyone. Then came down to the seats, signed more and took tons of pictures with everyone. I would say at least a third of the crowd! Maybe more. I left after almost two hours and he was still there. Unbelieveable. Never became a fan or anything but I do respect him and remember him as a real nice guy.

You do have to keep in mind that these were all women. So I guess I would do the same also.


[Edited on 7/4/2007 by CanadianMule]

 

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  posted on 7/3/2007 at 11:33 PM
Sure Glad Matt Abts Or Danny lewis didnt give me that treatment when i had them sign my ABB 2004 Tour Shirt Or when matt was signing my LBI cover And there was 15 abb ones for warren to sign and all matt could say was "allman brothers, another allman brothers one"

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I understand why Gregg T Walker wouldn't sign that shirt, and I can't blame him. At my second Dickey Betts and Great Southern show at the Freebird in Jax Beach, FL in 2002, Dickey wouldn't let me have a second band photo. He said I got one at the fist show and that I didn't need a second photo. All in all my conversation with Dickey was a bit insulting. I guess I wasn't COOL enough to get quality conversation with such a superstar as Mr. Betts. And no, I'm not downing Dickey while I am high on the present ABB.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2007 at 12:13 PM
Jammin' Right on to Dickey. Somebody who DIDN'T get a photo shoot deserved one far more than you getting a second one. You should have been HONORED he gave you one,and glorify and thank that, instead of your selfish pissy post here about him. What an ass.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2007 at 12:15 PM
There is a clip on Youtube with Gene Simmons arguing with a "fan" who Gene claims is just a pro looking to sell stuff. So he won't sign. Signs for some though.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWwjMmw0vKA

 

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  posted on 7/4/2007 at 12:26 PM
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Jammin' Right on to Dickey. Somebody who DIDN'T get a photo shoot deserved one far more than you getting a second one. You should have been HONORED he gave you one,and glorify and thank that, instead of your selfish pissy post here about him. What an ass.



I had that photo on my wall for about two years. I finally put it away since I don't think anyone but Dickey is still in that band. As for selling a signed photo on Ebay CM, I never had the first photo signed. And I really never thougth I would be taking a photo from a second fan. And Bird, please smooch, nibble and slobber all over my selfish ass.


 

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