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  posted on 6/18/2007 at 07:24 PM
I am a Strat man. However, I hate the whammy bar. Vibrato all the way!

but I am sitting here listening to Dickey Betts live at the Odeon. Dan Toler was the second guitarist at the time and he played a strat and whammied the hell through out the show.

So ... how many or for it and how many against?

I'm pretty sure how the Ginsonb crowd'll answer ...

 

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  posted on 6/18/2007 at 07:55 PM
I'm going to agree with you on this one. I never use my tremelo bar. Its not always bad, SRV does some stuff that isn't bad, but I prefer the vibrato also. I don't know...the whammy just doesn't do it for me. I play a strat as well.

 

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  posted on 6/18/2007 at 08:04 PM
I remember taking my whammy bar off the first week I had mine. It just didn't feel right. Something artificial maybe? I don't know. I've been playing my strat for 14 years and haven't missed that whammy. Mark me down as "to not."
 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 12:07 AM
Epic Whammy Abuse in the 80's led me to hardtail my Strat. Have no interest in the Whammy anymore. Few guitarists ever use it to the right effect (Hendrix, SRV and Gilmour are the exceptions)..NO Whammy please...Extra order of vibrato. Tanks!
 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 05:01 AM
I don't use the trem. at all when I play my Strat.
And maybe once in a blue moon with my LP.
It was cool when I was younger. But these days the trem. arm stays in the case.



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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 05:55 AM
I was told if I whammied, my eyesight would get worse.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 09:43 AM
As for the question, "To whammy or not to whammy?" It should be noted that Dangerous Dan actually changed his entire style during his last tenure with Great Southern. He has traveled from being a "poor man's Dickey Betts" as most popular criticism of him during his ABB stint to becoming a very unique voice as heard at the end of his GS run and some of his jazz inflected side projects since "River of Tears," "TGZ" etc.
It should be noted that early on in his style change (excessive whammy use or abuse and synthesizer) Dan kind of brought back some hair metal nightmares, but he really and truely has evolved to have his own very pleasant voice on the guitar. I believe he should be commended for rising above being a good "blooze rocker" in a very crowded field to becoming something special.

Now where is this leading us to? Put your whammy back on and whammy the hell out of it preferably in private. You may come up with some of your own unique sounding riffs. SRV, Gary Moore, Brian Setzer have all used the whammy to great effect. I always like Brad Gillis' technique and recently saw a DVD with Steve Lukather and Larry Carlton in France where Steve goes pretty much ape sh*t on one. While I've never been a big Luke fan, he has always come across as an *sshole in any interview I've ever read, I did like his solo on that Jeff Beck tune. Oh did I mention Jeff Beck does some nice whammy stuff ... Hey ... I don't have my wang bar on my strat either. So maybe just being the devil's advocate here ... who me? I wouldn't do that ... Lol!

 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 12:25 PM
what people dont understand is that the whammy bar is an effect, just like a wah or a flange, and you don't have to use it all the time, just to accompany something. Toler made me stop watching my DB & GS Live at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame DVD because he was constantly using that damn thing! He just needed to take it out! Seriously that was really annoying. But I, on the other hand, I use my Whammy Bar on my Fender Stratocaster, because If I didn't want it, I would have bought a hard-tail. But I don't use it constantly, just every now and then, as an EFFECT! So some whammy bar-ing doesnt bother me if you can do it right (Hendrix, SRV, KWS) but alot bothers me.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 02:23 PM
Check out Jeff Beck's use of the whammy - for my money, he's the best and most musical tremelo bar player there is, even giving Hendrix a run for his money.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 08:50 PM
Less whammie and more cowbell.

 

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  posted on 6/19/2007 at 10:59 PM
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Check out Jeff Beck's use of the whammy - for my money, he's the best and most musical tremelo bar player there is, even giving Hendrix a run for his money.


Ding-ding-ding! I'm in total agreement. There are a plethora of incredible JB videos on YouTube, almost all of which feature his unique and incredible whammy bar technique.

The cool thing about a "tremolo" bar (Fender got the name wrong - it's vibrato; tremolo is a variation in volume,not pitch) is that it can be used with a delicate touch to add just a hint of color to notes, riffs and chords. It also can bend a note down as well as up. You can't do that with finger vibrato. I say go for it! Tom

 

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  posted on 6/20/2007 at 08:33 AM
I keep mine on my Strat at all times, but rarely use it. I only use it for slight vibrato. I don't do divebombs or anything like that.
 

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  posted on 6/20/2007 at 10:17 AM
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Check out Jeff Beck's use of the whammy - for my money, he's the best and most musical tremelo bar player there is, even giving Hendrix a run for his money.


Ding-ding-ding! I'm in total agreement. There are a plethora of incredible JB videos on YouTube, almost all of which feature his unique and incredible whammy bar technique.

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I agree...well, almost. JB is incredible, but my favorite guy who uses a whammy with great results in David Gilmour. I like Dave's use of it better than Beck's because it's more subtle and he really uses it in all the right spots creating beautiful swells. dips, vibrato etc. I don't like when guys overuse and just beat the hell out of it like they are literally trying to rip it off the guitar...

...Personally, I don't use it much, but when I do, I like to use more for spacey drone- chords to add some depth and space to my chord comping...it can be a cool effect when used economically in the right hands.

 

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  posted on 6/20/2007 at 01:50 PM
Took mine off the first day (not even sure where it is). Sometimes I use the
palm of my hand on the part where it attachs (whatever that's called) but that's
about it.

[Edited on 6/20/2007 by jersey_devil]

 

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  posted on 6/20/2007 at 04:40 PM
Hard tail that sumbish!

 

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  posted on 6/20/2007 at 05:54 PM
leave that de-tuner be!

that be a no,

 

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  posted on 6/21/2007 at 09:28 AM
Yeah John like Hughie Thomasson never uses one! I know all y'all ex Tampites are wang bar wranglers. So ... don't lie.

 

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