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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:11 AM
last night justin verlander pitched the 6th no hitter in Detriot Tigers history. i read that in aug. and may of 1952, virgil trucks had also pitched a no hitter for detroit. isnt he related somehow to butch and derek?
 
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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:17 AM
I believe you are correct. Not sure the relation though. Maybe Butch's Uncle.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:21 AM
Butch's uncle, Derek's great-uncle.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:22 AM
Trucks is the uncle of Butch Trucks, and Derek is Trucks' great nephew

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:22 AM
per Wikipedia:

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In a 17-season career, Trucks posted a 177-135 record with 1534 strikeouts and a 3.39 ERA in 2682.2 innings pitched. His career numbers are not reflective of the quality of his pitching. In 1952, he was 5-19 with the last place Detroit Tigers (50-104). His five wins came from two no-hitters, a one-hitter, and a two hitter. Trucks suffered from playing for poor defensive teams until he came to the Chicago White Sox.

Trucks had an excellent pre-war minor league career (1938-41). He threw 4 no-hitters in the minors and still holds the American Baseball strikeouts in a season record of 418 strikeouts (1938). He struck out another 30 batters in the playoffs.

Trucks is also the uncle of Butch Trucks, a founding member of the legendary group, the Allman Brothers Band. Trucks' great nephew, Derek Trucks, is also currently a member of the Allman Brothers Band and fronts his own band, The Derek Trucks Band. In addition, several of Trucks' other relatives are accomplished musicians.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 10:23 AM
hahahahahhahahaha

yeah what they said

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 11:24 AM
Hand Trucks Sr.


 
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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 11:26 AM
A hell of a ball player too......................

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 11:30 AM
isn't Virgil Trucks also the little kid on the cover of Butch Trucks? (obviously not the same one if it is)

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 12:08 PM
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isn't Virgil Trucks also the little kid on the cover of Butch Trucks? (obviously not the same one if it is)


Close...but it's Butch's son Vaylor, also a fine musician.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 12:31 PM
This is what Derek told me about Virgil when I interviewed him last year;


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http://www.swampland.com/articles/view/swampland/27



Ok, I came up with an idea. There are a ton of other great musicians out there who appreciate your work, so I got the idea of asking a few of them to come up with a question or two for you. The response was immediate. First up is Dobro great Jerry Douglas. You appear on his latest album called “Best Kept Secret,” and he has long been a fan of yours. His question for you is- “When your at your highest level of playing, when you can’t do anything wrong and you’re almost standing off to the side and watching yourself play, what do you think about? Do you think about being airborne or gliding? Do you see any colors or landscapes? Do you hear the music of jazz or Indian Classical musicians like Nusrat Khan or Ali Akbar Khan?? What happens?...........

................Here is a question from Col. Bruce Hampton……


“(laughs) These are good ones. I like it. Jerry Douglas and the Colonel!”

Hampton’s question is – “Who pitched two no-hitters in the 1950’s in the American League?”

" That’s beautiful. (laughing) Virgil Trucks. 1952. The second one against the New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium. He’s my great uncle. He’s still alive in Birmingham, Alabama. I got to throw out the first pitch at Fenway Park when Ted Williams inducted Virgil Trucks. Ted Williams has his own Hall Of Fame in Florida, and Virgil couldn’t make it so Butch and I got to throw out the two first pitches. That was a blast. Susan sang the anthem, and we got to throw out the first pitch on Virgil Trucks Day at Fenway Park! Ted Williams said that he was one of the two hardest pitchers to hit against, so he was a bad-ass."



[Edited on 6/13/2007 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 01:17 PM
I don't think Derek has ever met Virgil, but he sometimes wears a Tigers cap as a tribute and keeps one of Virgi's baseball cards on the tour bus.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 02:44 PM
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Ted Williams has his own Hall Of Fame in Florida,
Yeah, there's a very lifelike bust of Ted on display there.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 03:05 PM
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Hand Trucks Sr.





Ever wonder why they call them Hand Trucks. You hear folks say...........
"

go get the set of hand trucks.


"where is the pair of hand trucks?"


Hell there is only one hand truck. I have pushed one all my life. Nobody ever comes back
with two handtrucks.

That always struck me funny.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 05:27 PM
Fire was a "bad-ass"!!!

Virgil Trucks

Unfortunately, Virgil Trucks might best be remembered for his two no-hitters in the midst of a dismal 5-19 season, but he was a fine pitcher with superb control who kept the ball down and coaxed groundballs. He missed nearly two full seasons while in action in World War II, but still managed to acumulate 177 wins in a 17-year career that saw him wear five different American League uniforms. Though he didn't return to the Detroit Tigers until the last stages of the 1945 season, Trucks pitched and won Game Two of the World Series against the Cubs that fall.

PROFILE:

Virgil Oliver Trucks

Born: April 26, 1917, Birmingham, AL

Batted: Right, Threw: Right

Debut: September 27, 1941

Primary Position: P
Primary Team: DET

Nicknames: Fire

Nine Players Who Debuted in 1941:
Stan Musial
Phil Rizzuto
Bob Lemon
Vern Stephens
Dave Philley
Jim Hegan
Danny Murtaugh
Dick Wakefield
Virgil Trucks


Played For
Detroit Tigers (1941-1952)
St. Louis Browns (1953)
Chicago White Sox (1953-1955)
Detroit Tigers (1956)
Kansas City Athletics (1957-1958)
New York Yankees (1958)


No-Hit Fame
5/15/1952: For DET (A) vs. WAS (A), 1-0 at DET. 9 innings pitched.

8/25/1952: For DET (A) vs. NY (A), 1-0 at NYY. 9 innings pitched.


Post-Season Appearances
1945 World Series


All-Star Selections
1949 AL
1954 AL

 

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  posted on 6/13/2007 at 06:02 PM
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Ted Williams has his own Hall Of Fame in Florida,
Yeah, there's a very lifelike bust of Ted on display there.


Is it still open? Thought I'd heard they'd closed it (Hernano Fla?)

 

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  posted on 6/14/2007 at 01:26 AM
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Ted Williams has his own Hall Of Fame in Florida,
Yeah, there's a very lifelike bust of Ted on display there.
Is it still open? Thought I'd heard they'd closed it (Hernano Fla?)
Whoops--I must've been thinking of that cryogenics lab.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/243339/ted_williams_tragic_life_af ter_death.html

 

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  posted on 6/14/2007 at 04:31 PM
Wainwright throws 1-hitter, gives partial credit to Verlander

Last night (Wednesday) Cardinal Adam Wainwright almost threw a no-hitter against the Royals. Before you say that's nothing, consider that the Royals had scored 8 runs (on 13 H) the day before vs. StL and 17 R (14 H) the game before that vs. Philly. (And yes, that's former reliever Adam Wainwright, a 2006 October standout, called to starting duty in 2007 because of a Cardinal pitching staff decimated by injuries, free agent losses not being covered, and other problems.)

It sorta coulda been a no-no, but Esteban German got that hit right after a 2-out StL error. Before the error, Wainer had walked 1 man in the 1st, then 1-2-3'd the Royals in the 2nd-5th. After the 6th, with its E and 1b, Wainer put down the next 6, into the 8th, before issuing another BB. He didn't come out to pitch the 9th.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270613107&page=plays



No, the Royals are not this easy to pitch to!
"St. Louis Cardinals opener Adam Wainwright throws to first for an out on a ground ball hit by Kansas City Royals' Joey Gathright during the 6th inning of a baseball game Wednesday, June 13, 2007, in Kansas City, Mo. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)"

This was while the no-no was still going on, moments before the error and then the hit wrecked it.

By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer
June 14, 2007
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Adam Wainwright fired up his computer Tuesday night and studied the no-hitter Detroit's Justin Verlander had thrown against Milwaukee.

The St. Louis right-hander took a no-hitter of his own into the sixth Wednesday night, and shut out Kansas City on one hit through eight innings. . . .

"I went online and watched every out he got," said Wainwright. "I was not quite Verlanderish today. But I'll take it." . . .

[After making the error, and then the hit occurred, shortstop Aaron] Miles then retired the next batter with a fine leaping catch of Mark Teahen's line drive, and Wainwright wouldn't hear of it when he tried to apologize for not retiring DeJesus for the third out. "I don't believe that changed anything," Wainwright said.

"I still felt locked in after the play. Then he made an amazing play to save a run. If he doesn't make that play, who knows? I'll take him in the field behind me any day. He shouldn't hang his head about that at all. It wasn't in the cards. God didn't want me to throw a no-hitter today. That's fine."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_ylt=AlNL4.jRaKUFAtTgpgW2ueERvLYF?gid=270 613107&prov=ap

 

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  posted on 6/14/2007 at 08:33 PM
I found the picture of Derek as a child interesting , its courtesy of Artimus Pyle .

 

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  posted on 6/14/2007 at 10:48 PM
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Hand Trucks Sr.


Ever wonder why they call them Hand Trucks. You hear folks say...........
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go get the set of hand trucks.


"where is the pair of hand trucks?"


Hell there is only one hand truck. I have pushed one all my life. Nobody ever comes back
with two handtrucks.

That always struck me funny.
rottinpeach, up here in Illinois we always call it "a hand truck," singular. Like in "We'll need to borrow Ken's hand truck to move that refrigerator; we gotta move these color TVs."

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Maybe a related one you hear 20% of the time here: "It's got two pair of wheels." "I bought two pair of pants." Maybe they're thinking that because there's two of them, it has to be "pair," singular, but I would always say "pairs" in those cases. "A pair of scissors; two pairs of scissors."

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Bonus from the gas station yesterday: The two little girls ahead of me got something for 49 cents, so the cashier goes, "Here's your change: fitty-one cent" (singular).

I said to the girls, African Americans (like the cashier), "Fitty-one Cent--he's my favorite singer!"

One girl, amazed, goes, " You like Fitty Cent?!"

"No, Fitty-one Cent. He's one better than Fitty!"

 

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  posted on 6/15/2007 at 06:48 PM
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I found the picture of Derek as a child interesting , its courtesy of Artimus Pyle .
Dimples, I didn't get this until I looked at the whole Derek-Derek article. Mind if I link, Derek?



Thanks for the article, Derek. I think I've read it before around here, or at least several excellent excerpts, because everything seems familiar. Nice to go over it again, though.

 

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