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  posted on 4/4/2003 at 07:20 PM
I bought ABB's Fillmore Concerts album a few years ago and after listening to it all this time, I still havent figured out what Tom Dowd really changed in this set. I know Whipping Post is missing the call out for it, some of tunes have a more echo-y sound and the bass is deeper and not 'in your face sound' like it was on At Fillmore East. But other than that it's been hard to figure out whether he really changed Liz Reed like he said he did. I've listened to that version and the original on At Fillmore East and I haven't been able to figure out the difference other than sound quality. Has anybody body else figured out what has been done to these sounds. It's been a real mystery since that day I bought it. Your imput is appreciated, thanks -Pat
 
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  posted on 4/8/2003 at 02:46 PM
I know what you mean -- I've never been able to hear any difference in the Liz Reed of the Fillmore Concerts, which supposedly has different guitar solos from the original album.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2003 at 08:58 AM
Not sure about the sound changes...but the main reason for the album (I think) was to get all of the songs that were played that night on to one release (i.e the Mountain Jam out of Whipping Post, One Way Out, Drunken Hearted Boy, etc.). The Stormy Monday now includes the harmonica solo that was edited out of the original...things like that. Not sure about the changes to the sound though...

 

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  posted on 4/19/2003 at 10:57 PM
Dont know for sure but to me it sounds like the drums are much more prominent.




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  posted on 5/23/2003 at 10:19 AM
"One Way Out" was always the version taken from the Fillmore East closing night show!

 

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  posted on 5/27/2003 at 06:28 PM
Actually, the reality is, in the liner notes he talks about editing different versions together, that was done on the original FILLMORE EAST as well, so they are "different" versions, they're identical versions, just remixed.
 

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  posted on 6/16/2003 at 04:38 AM
After listening repeatedly to both Fillmore Concerts and At Fillmore East versions of Liz Reed I have come to same conclusion as PauliG: editing must have been taken place on the original Fillmore East, they are identical versions but remixed for Fillmore Concerst.

Soundwise I like the crispiness of drums - you can hear cymbals clearly - and the ambiemce ("hall echo") on Fillmore Concerts, but why I like the original version better is that Berry´s bas is more prominent and the overall sound has more attack. But these are matters of taste. One day I listen to Fillmore Cincerts, another day to original Fillmore East...

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  posted on 6/20/2003 at 01:58 AM
I like both versions - the original for its' fat & compressed sound, and the Fillmore Concerts version for the overall flow and for that "wow! I'm really in the hall with them!" ambience that modern mixing/EQ techniques give.

My only real bugbear with the remix is the omission of the chat before Whipping Post -Duane's "...Berry Starts her up..." intro is perfect, & I'm amazed they thought to cut that out.

Paul

 
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