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  posted on 5/3/2007 at 09:31 PM
To complicate an already simple procedure that was in place for decades. All first class mail, one rate for 1st ounce and another rate for each additional ounce. Simple, right? Not anymore. According to the note that was placed in my PO box, letters are now .41 for the 1st ounce, .17 for each additional with a weight limit of 3.5 ounces. Large flat envelopes (1st class) are now .80 for the 1st ounce, .17 for each additional. So, you ask, where does this leave our nifty little CD mailers? Seems the folks at my post office don't have the answer. I asked a clerk and got a response of a blank look and shrugged shoulders. She asked the other 2 clerks and got the same response. So I asked for the supervisor, and well, I at least got an answer, which was, "I honestly am not sure, but if I were you and wanted it to get there without problems, I would put the additional postage on." Great. I love giving the feds more money if I don't have to, even pennies at a time. Doesn't anyone in govt. believe in the KISS philosophy? I know, I know, dumb question...
 
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  posted on 5/4/2007 at 01:57 AM
ummmmmm
I believe they do adhere to the KISS philosophy...
that is, if KISS stands for Kan't Implement Simple Solutions.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2007 at 01:16 PM
Sounds like the new procedures we have here in Canada for mailing to the US. Each post office I go to gives me a different story on how to ship my cds to the US. Damn, it used to be so easy
 

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  posted on 5/6/2007 at 05:16 PM
I'll stick to the 41+17,etc rule unless they kick one back to me. If they can't figure it out give it a few years and fed-ex will take over. I went Friday to ship packages out and buy new stamps. My P.O. didn't have anything but those ugly "forever" stamps and no such thing as a .17 - tried to sell me .05's and .02's - jag offs.
 

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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 08:24 AM
one PO employee said the second ounce was going up to 26 cents. but when i went back to mail a package and tried to buy extra ounce stamps they "didnt have any". so i'll have to wait until the 14th to see.
but it stinks they don't have their act together.
will be interesting. if its 17 cents then it will actually be cheaper to send cds up to 3.5 oz.

 
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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 08:34 AM
My Post Office gave me a nice rate card cause i"m in there all the time harrassing them with questions whitch they can never answer.
 

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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 12:09 PM
and what does that card say sniff? please do share!
 
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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 02:05 PM
This all changes on 5/15?

 

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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 02:09 PM
Do tell sniff!!!

 

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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 04:40 PM
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My Post Office gave me a nice rate card cause i"m in there all the time harrassing them with questions whitch they can never answer.


I love handing them International Postal coupons.

They never treat them the same way twice.

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  posted on 5/7/2007 at 07:24 PM
Hope this helps out somewhat.

Effective May 14
First Class Mail Single Piece
Weight Letters Large Packages
Not over Envelopes
(ounces)
1 - $0.41 - $0.81 - $1.13
2 - .58 - .97 - 1.30
3 - .75 - 1.14 - 1.47
3.5 - .92 - 1.31 - 1.64
4 - 1.31 - 1.64
5 - 1.48 - 1.81
6 - 1.65 - 1.98
7 - 1.82 - 2.15
8 - 1.99 - 2.32
9 - 2.16 - 2.49
10 - 2.33 - 2.66
11 - 2.50 - 2.83
12 - 2.67 - 3.00
13 - 2.84 - 3.17

Additional Ounces $0.17
Postcard .26

Letters that weigh one ounce or less meet any nonmachinable characteristics in DMM 101.1.2 are subject to the $0.17 nonmachinable surcharge.

[Edited on 5/8/2007 by sniff]

 

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  posted on 5/9/2007 at 11:01 AM
i just got a rate card at the PO when i mailed some bubble mailers.

like reported earlier, large envelopes (outer envelopes) will be 80 cents for the first ounce and 17 vcents for each additional ounce.

where it leaves the 6x6 or 6x7 bubble mailers is beyond me. i guess we will just have to wait and see.

it just says letters first class 41 cents, additional ounce 17 cents, large envelopes 80 cents--first ounce.

no definition of what constitutes a large envelope. if the small bubble mailers constitute a "letter" then maybe people should start sending stamps and return labels like in the old days of tape trading. that would eliminate the need for large envelopes and still make it relatively easy for the burners of the b&p's.

opinions? would like to hear some.

thanks,
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  posted on 5/9/2007 at 11:09 AM
what i am going to do is either wait and see what someone reports on here when taking a small 6x6 bubble mailer to the PO on monday or later and see how they treat it. they will have to have the guidelines in place by then. then the question is what about the 6x9 mailers. i think if the 6x6's go through then we will all have to switch--i have already a long time ago.

and if they do go through then i will send postage and a return label on my b&p's and use a new or relatively new mailer.

just have to wait and see what the news is. but i dont think i will be using any outside mailers if the small ones are treated as "letters"

 
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  posted on 5/9/2007 at 11:27 AM
So your saying we should start using the same mailer to ship back? Geez, this is really confusing the !@#% out of me!!

 

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  posted on 5/9/2007 at 11:34 AM
im just saying that it is a possibility of getting around using the outside big envelopes.
 
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  posted on 5/9/2007 at 05:02 PM
Who wants to bet that some PO's will treat them as letters and other PO's will treat them as large envelopes....
 

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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 07:29 AM
this may be of use to us (now determining if a pkg is more than 1/4 inch thick will be tricky.

http://www.usps.com/prices/prices_shape.htm

Letters

* Maximum weight: 3.5 ounces
* Maximum length: 11 1/2"
* Maximum height: 6 1/8"
* Maximum thickness: 1/4"

if your letter exceeds these dimensions it will be classified and priced as a large envelope (flat).

Large Envelopes

* Maximum weight: 13 ounces
* Maximum length: 15"
* Maximum height: 12"
* Maximum thickness: 3/4"

If your large envelope exceeds these dimensions, it will be classified and priced as a package (parcel). Large envelopes must also be flexible, rectangular, and uniformly thick. A large envelope that exceeds 13 ounces is classified and priced as Priority MailŪ.

It looks like our mailers will fall between letters and large envelopes. its the bubble thats going to push 3 and 4 cd mailers into the envelope category. this should clear up a few things, but I still bet the PO will screw up some packages.

 
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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 10:45 AM
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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 01:55 PM
yeah i see chaos ahead... "uniformly thick" ?? is there gonna be some guy at the PO measuring every bubble mailer to make sure it's "uniformly thick"??

choas looms on monday

 
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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 02:19 PM
Yep, it should be very interesting. My mailroom here told me not to worry about anything, that their meters are all set for the rate change and I can bring down the mailers and they will take care of it. HA!!! I want to see if they are going to measure them as well.

 

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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 04:39 PM
This is going to be a mess

 

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  posted on 5/10/2007 at 05:53 PM
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im just saying that it is a possibility of getting around using the outside big envelopes.


Nine out of Ten traders will accept a B&P in one envelope, as long as you supply return self adressed stickers and postage. Check before you mail though if your not sure of their preference.

You can also fold the large envelope around the bubble mailer inside, trimming any excess if your close on postage. This also allows for easy access to and from a standard size mail box. Large envelopes are often folded by carriers to fit in the box anyway.

 

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  posted on 5/11/2007 at 10:12 AM
thats cool. that may work out in the long run to use 1 mailer instead of 2. i have gotten folded envelopes out mailers too.

BTW, I just measured my smallest cd mailer i use, the squareish one and its 7.5 inches high and 7.75 inches wide.

the height is going to make all bubble mailer's treated as large envelopes. the maximum height for an envelope is 6 1/8 inch.

so its .80 +++++ from now on

[Edited on 5/11/2007 by northernman]

 
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  posted on 5/11/2007 at 10:15 AM
YIKES!!!

 

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  posted on 5/11/2007 at 10:21 AM
I will probably take any B&P returns I have to the post office to insure that
the postage is correct before sending them back to poeple.

If you wait till monday you should be able to get your own B&P returns checked and
get the correct return postage for them before sending them out.

Either way, it will mean a trip to the PO.

 
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