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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 06:53 PM
There have been many Beacon threads & i want to say a few things which may anger some of you but it's something i want to say: i went to 6 shows---the music can't be beaten---wonderful,creative & inspiring.The people i met from this site were & are fantastic people.The weekend of 3/30--3/31 was awesome---the people,the parties,family,friends----what can be better!!! The setlists were fun,interesting & diverse & the Brothers covered some old ground in some new & breathtaking ways.The Beacon vibe/security was not nearly as bad as i thought,was quite decent in certain ways & the only complaint was too much beer & booze given to out of control people. 3 nites--2 in orch. & 1 in the loge were great....3 nites were a disaster---the drunken behavior by rude,immature people of all ages who had no interest in the music,a woman peeing at her seat,a guy passing out,people puking,the unbelievable amount of very loud talking,the spilling of beer on people,the idiot who loved the show so much he decided to use my back as a rum(after the second time i told him,in as gentle a way as possible i would remove all his fingers if he touched me again),& on & on with more & more rude & unkind behavior.Now,i have been seeing the ABB for over 32 years & have been to too many Beacon ABB shows & other shows to count...this was the worst behavior i've ever seen--- i have to believe that the band heard the talking--they have ways,i presume,of shutting it out....but,the ABB @ Beacon has become an "event" in NYC & as a nation,we are rude & nasty to one another with too much ease--the results turn up,even in the spiritual world of music....& that's sad.Finally,i have noticed some of this idiocy creeping into here over the past few days---this will probably tick many of you off---but,read some of the posts by some of these "isle" crashers & you'll see that some are coming here with stories that simply don't add up to anything more than BS(i.e.--the post started on sat. by a guy claiming to have been thrown out of Beacon & then resorting to the race card.....)-----i have MS & am too old to battle this wave of concert stupidity----so,my lessons:sit in the loge,go for the "big" weekend,& hope that Butch can get moogis up for next year---my wife & i left the Grateful Dead "bus" in 1988,as we saw the scene turning ugly---i'm not ready to give up,but will cut back on the # of shows we attend.....it was still great---but this,for me,is a sad turn of events----the dark world we live in is seeping it's claws into the music....

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 06:57 PM
solution......Wanee

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:00 PM
Well, for certain, that one thread by the kid who claimed to get thrown out and then turned on all of us claiming we were racists was complete, absurd BS.
 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:02 PM
^^^^^What thread was this? I missed it.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:16 PM
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^^^^^What thread was this? I missed it.


It was a previous thread called "I got thrown out of the beacon.." Some of it amusing, some will make you angry. Much of the claims were BS. I think he may have deleted it after the race card came out.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:20 PM
I wasn't aware that someone was using race as an excuse for behaviour - missed that post.


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as a nation,we are rude & nasty to one another with too much ease--the results turn up,even in the spiritual world of music....& that's sad
Effie - you had some of the worst luck on the seat assignments this year!!! Can't believe some of the bad behaviour you had to put up with (I've seen people get drunk and obnoxious at shows but usually it doesn't extend to urinating in their seat on purpose or using another's back as a rythym device!!!) Hope this does not diminish that Effie spirit because I still plan on meeting you one day and hopefully we're headed to the same show!

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:31 PM
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Yes, yes,

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:33 PM
Deb--we'll meet at a future show---if you promise you won't pee on me LOL

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:36 PM
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Deb--we'll meet at a future show---if you promise you won't pee on me LOL
LMAO - not even if I've got those astronaut approved Depends??? Never mind - it's a deal...I will behave (kinda).

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:37 PM
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There have been many Beacon threads & i want to say a few things which may anger some of you but it's something i want to say: i went to 6 shows---the music can't be beaten---wonderful,creative & inspiring.The people i met from this site were & are fantastic people.The weekend of 3/30--3/31 was awesome---the people,the parties,family,friends----what can be better!!! The setlists were fun,interesting & diverse & the Brothers covered some old ground in some new & breathtaking ways.The Beacon vibe/security was not nearly as bad as i thought,was quite decent in certain ways & the only complaint was too much beer & booze given to out of control people. 3 nites--2 in orch. & 1 in the loge were great....3 nites were a disaster---the drunken behavior by rude,immature people of all ages who had no interest in the music,a woman peeing at her seat,a guy passing out,people puking,the unbelievable amount of very loud talking,the spilling of beer on people,the idiot who loved the show so much he decided to use my back as a rum(after the second time i told him,in as gentle a way as possible i would remove all his fingers if he touched me again),& on & on with more & more rude & unkind behavior.Now,i have been seeing the ABB for over 32 years & have been to too many Beacon ABB shows & other shows to count...this was the worst behavior i've ever seen--- i have to believe that the band heard the talking--they have ways,i presume,of shutting it out....but,the ABB @ Beacon has become an "event" in NYC & as a nation,we are rude & nasty to one another with too much ease--the results turn up,even in the spiritual world of music....& that's sad.Finally,i have noticed some of this idiocy creeping into here over the past few days---this will probably tick many of you off---but,read some of the posts by some of these "isle" crashers & you'll see that some are coming here with stories that simply don't add up to anything more than BS(i.e.--the post started on sat. by a guy claiming to have been thrown out of Beacon & then resorting to the race card.....)-----i have MS & am too old to battle this wave of concert stupidity----so,my lessons:sit in the loge,go for the "big" weekend,& hope that Butch can get moogis up for next year---my wife & i left the Grateful Dead "bus" in 1988,as we saw the scene turning ugly---i'm not ready to give up,but will cut back on the # of shows we attend.....it was still great---but this,for me,is a sad turn of events----the dark world we live in is seeping it's claws into the music....


I didn't have any specific problems and was generally surrounded by great fans at all six shows I attended and I was all around, in the loge, upper and lower balcony and both sides of the Orchestra. Perhaps I got lucky. I did notice a certain sporting event vibe with the beer flowing so freely. But it did not detract from my enjoyment.

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:37 PM
i'm gonna wear a hazmet suit next year,so no need for depends

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:39 PM
...or i'll let Dougrhon pick my seats!!!!!

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 07:52 PM
I like the Hazmat idea ... it immediately brought to mind Woody Allen movie (Sleepers or Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex) and frankly I'm cracking up and have spit water all over my monitor!

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 08:11 PM
The only problems I had in my 4 Orch shows were the incessant talking, and the one drunk who bumped into me at the bar and made me out the bad guy by my retaking physically and subtly my personal space. And the usher who woul not let me stand in the aisle in the back orch corner so as to not block the couple of rows behind. Oh and the "sit down, you A-holes" guys in Orch, which again is a symptom of the me me me thing. How bout we stage 3-4 "private events" next year? That would be something.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 08:17 PM
private events on moogis??!!!!

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 08:21 PM
Effie, It really makes me sad that you caught the crowds you did at some Beacon shows. I had heard a lot of similar stories about what you described. This was my first Beacon show and I was apprehensive about it. We were lucky to get good seats in the loge on a good night. The only thing I saw were a few guys lighting up joints uninterrupted by security. It reallydidn't bother me. My daughter said we could get high just breathing it in.

The last thread started today by johnnymusc "I was kicked out of the Beacon last night" is funny and in the end he said it was his fault. Johnny is not negative or mean-spirited but he is a hoot.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 09:31 PM
Effie, I know you had to deal with the squatting squirter early on, I'm sorry it continued through the run.
Sadly, I've become somewhat insulated to the aholes that make this their private 'piss everyone around them off' time.

I've become more sensetive to the people around me and after listening to my own private "whooohooer" saturday night, he finally apologized to me at the end of the night, I'm hesitent to be with the orchestra crowd anymore. Of course Dolan and Co. could make the general addmission area off limits for a lot of us.

Having a seat crasher behind us rave about how great it is to be up front and then have him complain that they weren't playing their hits....Melissa and Midnight Rider, just about sealed the deal.

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 09:34 PM
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Last night I was sitting right next to two very cool people, a married couple who has been seeing the ABB for around 9 years but only once a year or so and does not really follow them. Before the show he asked me how the band was playing and I said he was not going to be disapointed. He had no idea. From the first stanzas of Jessica he was freaking out. Before they even got to the good part, the soloing, he was in heaven and he was just floored the whole time. In the second set he said "The first time I saw them they played a song that went 'people..." What's that? I answered "Do you mean 'people can you feel it...'?" He said "yeah that's it." I said That's "Revival" He said "Wow I'd love to hear that". Well needless to say when the finale began he practically did backflips. I love being with great fans.

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 09:35 PM
I think if you go to the show looking to see drunks and people behaving poorly you'll find them. I only went to 2 shows this year. 1 in the loge wich I thought the crowd was almost too mellow and last Thursday back of the floor which was a big party but nobody seemed too out of control. It was fine. Maybe I'm just lucky but the worst I ever saw the beacon was 1999. They over sold the standing room and the loge stairs became seats for tons of people. I even saw a full on brawl. I didn't think I was going to see the ABB again after that since the playing was pretty uninspired that run also. I didn't realize part of the reason was Jack's Tinitus acting up and Dickey being a bit out of control. 2000 I came back to see what this Trucks kid was all about and I was interested again but pissed at the quality of the peakin at the beacon CD. All the runs since then have been great although I thought 2004 dipped a bit. I can't believe in 2006 and 2007 they seem to be just getting better and better. That's what I take away from the shows and will remember not the bad stuff.
 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 11:56 PM
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I think if you go to the show looking to see drunks and people behaving poorly you'll find them. I only went to 2 shows this year. 1 in the loge wich I thought the crowd was almost too mellow and last Thursday back of the floor which was a big party but nobody seemed too out of control. That's what I take away from the shows and will remember not the bad stuff.


I seriously doubt anybody went to the show looking to see drunks and people behaving poorly. There really are drunks and people behaving poorly. I have heard about this problem many times.Maybe you just got lucky like I did and had a mellow crowd at your shows.

I imagine if somebody pees on you , spills beer on you and pushes you out of your space, plays drum on your back, you might go home with some bad memories as well as good. It could also depend how much a person drinks as to how much loud drunks bother them. I'm talking in general, not saying it applies to you.Please read johnnymusc's thread "I got thrown out of the Beacon last night" and you might get some perspective. You can have good crowds and bad one's. Just because you had a good one doesn't mean somebody else didn't have a bad one.

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  posted on 4/10/2007 at 12:32 AM
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LMAO - not even if I've got those astronaut approved Depends??? Never mind - it's a deal...I will behave (kinda).


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  posted on 4/10/2007 at 01:08 AM
You know, the beacon isn't that rigid. If you have a real jerk near you you can move around a bit. Personally, that is why I prefer GA shows. Never used to but once I realized I didn't need to stand next to the a hole and could move around, I got that it is a good thing. I do get that I have a little more flexibility and can move around in the Beacon and other seated venues because I am a female and don't travel in a group. I also think if you are having a real problem with someone you could probably ask the security to see if there is another spot for you to stand in. I've done that too in years past and it usually prevents any altercations.

I think I mentioned in another thread that I only had 2 negative incidents. I saw mostly well behaved people and found most people to be respectful if you asked them to move a bit or stop drumming on you and the like. I witnessed much worse in years past.

I do expect some drunken foolery. I mean it isn't an opera. Also you have to be able to deal with the fact that people are gonna talk and some are even gonna think they are the act, and some are gonna want to rap with you, but like I said, I didn't personally witness any really out of control behavior and I went each weekend each time in the orchestra.

 

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  posted on 4/10/2007 at 08:08 AM
i feel sorry for you folks who happend to be around folks who talks to much and drinks to much at shows!!it sucks..
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  posted on 4/10/2007 at 08:09 AM
...that one i gotta laugh---if anyone knows me they too would laugh--you're right Tommars,i was looking for it & probably deserved it because my vibe isn't the right one---woops,forgot that i never saw this level of behavior till this year,albeit ,if you've been going to concerts for awhile you realize this can be brewing---the progressive problem simply got worse this year---also if you read my original thread you'd see i said 3 nites were perfect!! 2 of the 3 bad nites were in upper balcony--was i looking for it on the perfect nites too---sorry i failed--searched the entire beacon & couldn't find it Angela--i'm glad you had a good experience--so did i for the most part---i'm not as forgiving of people who could care less about others & with MS it's enough of a struggle to even get into shows...if people want to excuse moronic behavior i have no problem until that moron begins to ruin it for me or those sitting with me---many many many wonderful fans....but IMO this is merely a reflection of everyday life in our USA......anyone is free to differ---but don't say i was looking for it---you weren't there.....

 

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  posted on 4/10/2007 at 08:11 AM
Hey, AFFS how are shows in your country--any issues like this---or is it an American custom ---seriously????--i'm curious.....

 

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