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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 10:55 AM
Our first trip to NYC for the Beacon run. Here is what I learned.

If you like to dance get ORCH seats. End of story. How people can sit through such incredible music is beyond me - but they do and the only way to avoid it is to avoid the loge and the balcony. Luckily I learned this the easy way, through this board, and through watching the crowd on 4/5. On 4/6 I paid $150 to upgrade my loge seats to ORCH and it was worth every penny. To those who would have been seated behind me in the loge, you are welcome. :-)
There are still plenty of people with great ORCH tickets who really want to sit. They leave early and seat upgrades are easy. Back of the ORCH is fine - you can constantly improve as those who don't appear to know the lay of the land leave. The 4 heavy drinkers in front of us who announced "you're going to hate us before the night is through" sat through the first 3 songs and then LEFT and NEVER CAME BACK! Hate them?? We LOVE THEM!!! :-)


Don't expect anything to happen. What will happen will be unexpected and great. These guys are bringing it at a new level. Their jams are tight but out of control, rhythmic, but not predictable - in the "jam band" genre they are the best out there right now. If they don't think they belong in that genre, that's cool. The guests were awesome. Peter Frampton?? Are you kidding me?? And then he just tears it up. What a hoot!

Don't eat the food at the sidewalk vendors. Bad food made me and my wife so sick we had to miss the Saturday night show. Still recovering. Damn.

Go see more - these shows are special. We'll be there next year if it happens.

That's about it. Thanks for the help with my questions leading up to the trip.

Graham

 
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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 11:03 AM
I FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!

Bring lids for Aquafina water bottles!!!!!!!

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 11:18 AM
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I FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!

Bring lids for Aquafina water bottles!!!!!!!

Graham



I did last night. If you'll give me a bottle why take away the smallest part of it?
Very sorry to hear you and your wife got sick from bad food. When in doubt - pizza

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 11:42 AM
My wife and I sat in the loge , we were seated and we still enjoyed the shows , if people had stood we would have stood as well no problems , but it seems folks in the loge like to sit , to each there own .
 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 11:55 AM
Good lessons for the ABB @ Beacon. I can add a few things I've learned over the years...

1.) Do Not fire one up outside the theater, especially if you're a teacher from Long Island
2.) Do NOT expect to wait for bathroom of you're a lady
3.) Do expect to wait for the bathroom if you're a guy
4.) Do not wear anything that you don't expect to toss in the laundry immediately after leaving the show
5.) I never knew floors could be that sticky
6.) Security?? What security?!
7.) Careful sitting next to the teenager who looks like he's just "discovered" beer
8.) Eat at Grey's Papaya after the show (not before)
9.) $8 beer tastes just like $2 beer
8.) Expect the unexpected from the World's Greatest Live Band

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:10 PM
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8.) Eat at Grey's Papaya after the show (not before)


If possible, eat at Gray's papaya before AND after the show.



Make nice with security on your way in (they treat you better during the show, if need be.)

BYO munchies (but maybe not a Grayís Papaya dog).

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:15 PM
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Our first trip to NYC for the Beacon run. Here is what I learned.

If you like to dance get ORCH seats. End of story. How people can sit through such incredible music is beyond me - but they do and the only way to avoid it is to avoid the loge and the balcony.


I've been to at least one show at every Beacon run since '96 (excepting '00 and '05), and I was stunned not only at the number of people sitting in their seats in the Upper Balcony, but also of their intolerance of those who prefer to dance at their seats.

At the Saturday night show the group behind us became very angry at and hostile with my wife, sister and I. We danced for a little while at the entranceway fo the corridor, but security directed us back to our seats. So, I did sit at my seat for a song or two, but when I returned to dancing, the person behind me became beligerant and threated to throw me off the balcony. So, I went and spoke to security. I explained the whole situation from the begining, how we were dancing at our seats, the people behind us were unyhappy, we danced in the corridor but were told to go back to our seats, then the people behind us got very angry. I directly asked the security person, "I need to know, are we in the wrong for dancing at our seats? Or are they for getting angry and yelling at us?" The security person said, "No, you are not wrong. Take me to your seats." So, he went up and spoke to the person who threatened me for a minute or two, then left. Although the group behind us didn't go out of their way to bother us again, there was noticable tension the rest of the night.

Even if someone want to go to a concert and sit , you'd have to go into the event expecting that people sitting near you may not want to sit the whole time. I've been to some shows where I didn't feel like dancing (even the ABB), but I've never once asked someone in front of me not to.

The ultimate irony of the Saturday night experience was during Dazed and Cunfused and Lovelight, the people behind us were up and dancing! I guess it was OK for them to do so when they felt like it, but not for others when it bothered them.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:15 PM
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I FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!

Bring lids for Aquafina water bottles!!!!!!!

Graham



Actually, I recommend buying a bottle for $1.00 outside the venue and sticking it inside your coat to sneak it in.

Doug

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:22 PM
Well, I don't know why, but we sat first row loge on 3/31 - and stood and up danced for a good portion and NO ONE said anything at all to us!! Must have just gotten lucky

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:40 PM
"Hey! Do you need a lid?"

I was all excitied until it turned out that the guy sitting next to me was only offering a cap for my water bottle. I'm noticing the confiscation of bottle caps at more and more places. Someone told me it was so the full bottle couldn't be used as a projectile. Same person pointed out that you could probably do more harm by throwing coins at somebody. I didn't realize our society had gotten to the point where we had to be able to create weaponry at public gatherings!

Sitting vs. Standing - What I learned at the Beaon was that some of us can't stand for as long as we once could. While I can walk 10 miles with no problem, standing in one place cause me great pain in my arches and knees.

The first show that we went to (last Friday) we were on the floor, so we stood the entire night with everybody else. No problem.

By the next night, my arches, shins and knees were killing me! I was actually grateful to have those balcony seats! We were high enough up to see the entire stage and everything that transpired on it. I forget now what we paid for both sets of seats, but the balcony was cheaper. I could hear and see great! I might specifically seek balcony or loge seats for any future Beacon show that I attend. For me, it was the best of both world.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 01:31 PM
A couple from me on this Easter Monday. Please note first time in NYC
1) pre-show at Yogis is a must do and post show ain't too bad either
2) Heiniken in a can ain't that bad
3) Gray Papaya dogs are a blessing and should be eaten anytime
4) Lower East side has great bars
5) Central park on a Sunny day is awesome for a hangover
6) Sound in Loge was way better then Orch

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 06:05 PM
The standing/sitting thing is something that bothers me. Iím a deadhead so I LOVE to dance, but I realize that there is no way you can stand in your seats in the balcony. Most people not only want you to sit down, but actually scream, yell and become visibly disturbed while trying to get you to sit down. Iím a respectful kid(1m 19 a youngin) and I have ALWAYS moved or sat down when a person asked me to while dancing. The thing that gets me the most is the people do not say" hey can ya sit I cant see" ....they say "hey you kid sit the **** down" ...this happened 3 of the 4 shows I saw this run. I know Iím not at a ratdog show and the crowd is a little different but seriously why the hostility???? At a Gregg allman show an older man almost got physical because I wouldnít sit down during the ENCORE, after I sat the entire show... I really donít get it.
 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 06:22 PM
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"Hey! Do you need a lid?" I was all excitied until it turned out that the guy sitting next to me was only offering a cap for my water bottle.
LOL I've noticed that the water lids always get removed at shows anymore. I guess Mom was right - "You could put somebodies eye out with that thing!". I try to remember to take a bottle top in the bottom of my purse when attending shows anymore.

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 06:58 PM
My two cents:

1. If you're a woman, you can smuggle in just about anything. Example: A great place to hide a can or bottle is horizontally in your bra. No one would DARE touch you there, nor does anyone have a clue what your actual cup size is. Plus, with the cool weather, I had a jacket over it.

2. As I stated in another post, the best way to indulge in a little shmoka once inside is to use either a one-hitter or a very small pipe and smoke only small quantities at a time.

3. There is always a line in the Balcony ladies room. There is never a line in the lower level ladies room.

4. Watch out for random puke on the floor.

5. There is PLENTY of room in the front row for "guests" of actual ticketholders.

6. The Aquafina lids also fit on the plastic beer bottles. I have been known to remove a needed lid from the trash can after the "bartender" (i.e. glorified concession worker) removes it and pitches it in there. Usually they are sitting right on top and it's an easy grab. They look clean enough to me...

7. The Westside Brewing Company is a great place for a decent, inexpensive pre-show meal. You can almost always slide up to the bar, order something, and by the time your chow arrives, you have found yourself a vacated barstool.

8. Street (i.e., free) parking was easy to find (on a Monday, anyway).

9. You can use a front rows (AA - DD) ticket from another night to get down there on your particular show night...once the show's started, the ushers don't look at the date on the ticket, only the seat location.

and finally....

10. The ABB plays their ASSES off for us every single night. MASSIVE props to the band!!


Laura in NJ

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 09:10 PM
The one useful thing I learned is that Megan at Yogi's likes men w/ a good vocabulary. Got to make a cheatsheet of more $10 words for next year.

 

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