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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 12:29 PM
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(03-19) 15:22 PDT SAN JOSE -- Eric Clapton may have been the first superstar rock guitarist, but he let two young guitar slingers do all the heavy lifting Sunday at the HP Pavilion.
With 27-year-old bottleneck expert Derek Trucks of the Allman Brothers Band and Texas dynamo Doyle Bramhall II, 38, on guitar, Clapton, 61, consistently took the backseat in the two-hour concert.
After the young Turks had their way with a song, he might step up to offer a final, laconic solo, matching neither the intensity of his bandmates or his own past glories.
Without a single word to the audience outside of a furtive "thank you" or a mention of the soloists' names, Clapton went through 16 songs, Trucks and Bramhall playing most of the solos. Rounding out the band were heavy-hitting American freelancers Steve Jordan on drums, Willie Weeks on bass and seasoned British sideman Chris Stainton and Babyface associate Tim Corman keeping everything between the gutters on keyboards. Clapton's wispy vocals were cushioned by Bramhall's brawny harmonies, as well as the vocals of two background singers.
When he chose to play -- as on the tag of "Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?," following two exquisite Trucks solos -- Clapton was fleet-fingered, easily flexing his trademark rumbling tone and stinging flurries. But he seemed bored.
With Trucks onboard -- he left the tour to rejoin the Allmans after the San Jose show -- the program drew heavily from "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs," the magnificent 1970 double record by Derek and the Dominoes that featured Clapton and the late Duane Allman on bottleneck, both at the height of their considerable games.
Clapton has struggled for relevance as an artist ever since. Outside of a fluke pop hit or three in the ensuing 35 years, he has never tapped the kind of revolutionary power that informed Cream, the archetypal improvisational trio he was in that exploded on the rock world in 1967. Despite an endless procession of mediocre solo albums sung in one of the most uncharismatic voices of any major rock performer, Clapton could always be counted on to get onstage and play. Now it would appear he has given up even that.
The telling moment Sunday came during the meat of the concert, after the inevitable "acoustic set," when the band hitched the Fender and Gibson electrics back on and crashed into "Little Queen of Spades," the Robert Johnson blues Clapton recorded on his 2004 tribute album, "Mr. Johnson and Me." Clapton took the introductory guitar solo, dipping at last into his glistening psychedelic B.B. King bag -- but only for a tantalizing taste. He sang the song and then stood back to leave the big solos of the evening to the band.
First, Bramhall brought the crowd to its feet with piercing, screeching stop breaks, then Trucks started slowly, quietly, scratching out a few jazzy lines that improbably but inexorably spiraled into a walloping barrage that also got the crowd standing.
What should have happened next is that the British guitar immortal, the man who played the solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," should have stood up and knocked the ball out of the park. Instead, he listlessly drove the song to an anticlimactic close that left the audience in its chairs.
Clapton still commands a faithful following. As long as he closes his shows with "Layla," "Cocaine" or "Crossroads" -- even if he brings out opening act Robert Cray to play and sing the songs -- he can count on capacity crowds paying top dollar.
Only now he has become a kind of figurehead, a cagey veteran cunning enough to toss off a few licks as he surrounds himself with hot, young musicians who handle the dirty work of playing the music, while he steps forward to take the bows.

 
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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 12:42 PM
...saw 2 of these shows & listened to the last few from sydney---we all agree on derek & doyle--they are gifted,but EC was NOT bored--this was his finest playing since the 70's--all personal taste,but i'm not a fan of EC bashing...also watch & listen to DEREK closely & you'll see & hear the impact of EC on Derek---his more agressive rhythm playing,his improved & finely honed blues work,his chordal selectiond,his thougt process on leads,playing a whole bunch of great songs---if you want to know about ec's level of playing & his massive skill set---Derek might jusy have a better insight..... ----& no,i am an ec fan who is critical of his fluff work over the years--but,try the cream dvd & this tour make ec more crucial to the genre than ever...ask derek....ask doyle...read a recent GA interview---these are musicians & my ears like to listen to ec as much as they do----all personal opinions so your review probably has those who agree on ec---but others still feel the genius of EC....peace

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 12:44 PM
...the fact that ec is secure enough to let the young guys shine spesks to who he is......

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 12:50 PM
This was not my personal review, but one from a local paper, but I take everything I hear from "critics" with a grain of salt.
 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 12:56 PM
...critics,if you've ever read my past comments on them---are meaningless to me---they are mostlt,with few exceptions,ignorant jerks with little knowledge of music & agendas related in no way to the music.....----glad you take em with a grain of salt.....

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 01:07 PM
That review is crap.

Clapton's playing was just fine in the early 80's when he had Albert Lee and Duck Dunn in his band, Chris Stainton too. Check out the Money And Cigarettes tour. It's not like he just took the last 37 years off and exclusively played pop music.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 01:45 PM
I always take any music review I read with a grain of salt. That being said, I've seen Eric Clapton many times over the years (beginning with Cream in the way back years until more recent 'solo' outings) and I have never been disappointed with him. I think he is one of the best guitarists out there. I also think that touring with him has been a great opportunity for Derek and it's great to see the well-deserved props he is getting from this tour which he may not have received otherwise. I think Dad hit one point squarely on the nose - that EC has enough confidence in himself to take these young guys for the ride and let them shine...many artists out there more tied up in their egos than the art who would not allow this. My only disappointment about this tour and this pairing is that I have not seen it!!!

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 06:11 PM
I saw them a few months ago, and the biggest suprise to me was how good Clapton was. I was there to see Trucks, but is was evident which one was the master, and which one was the prodigy. I agree that it was so cool for Clapton to throw his ego out the door, and give us all a beautiful rock show.
 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 07:18 PM
Eric played well in Dallas. I wonder if he's kinda bummed that Derek is moving on now.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 08:49 PM
While plenty of people have denigrated Clapton's post-Layla output, this review was off the mark in plenty of areas, but certainly these:

1. his having had the "odd pop hit or 3 in the past 35 years"? Please! I do not dig all of the guy's solo output either, but anyone who listens to radio can spin off a good dozen radio songs Clapton has had without even thinking about it. The past 35 years, I think, probably includes Cocaine, Lay Down Sally, I Shot the Sheriff, Ain't Going Down, Rock'n'Roll Heart, She's Waiting, Forever Man, Old Love, Bad Love, Running on Faith, It's In the Way That you Use it, Pretending, Tears in Heaven....see what I mean? There are more also.

2. uncharismatic singing voice?! The guy's voice gets better and better. Jeepers. I don't even know what to say about that one.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 10:43 PM
when an aging b.b king or buddy guy brings young guitarists up on stage he's a mentor. when clapton does he's "laconic" and "bored". has any other guitarist of clapton's stature and class ever had to take so much b.s.? this reviewer needs to find a new occupation.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2007 at 01:07 AM
I was at the San Jose show and was incredulous when I heard comments from this review this morning. Like many, I believe Eric established his legacy very early in this career and never quite reached the same high points again. I've also firmly believed that when he has been challenged as a musician he has excelled.

And so he brings an all-star band on the road with the most talented slide guitarist he has been associated since Duane Allman fortuitously joined Derek & the Dominos. And you know what happened- this "band" did justice not only to the Derek and the Domino's material (including the first five songs of their set) but a wide range of the Clapton/blues catalogue.

I think the key element that the SF critic Joel Selvin misses is that this was "a band". Everyone was allowed to contribute and this was evident throughout the SJ show.

And Eric did not disappear. He did a signature lead on nearly every song, including a classic solo acoustic performance on "Driftin'", but everyone shared the spotlight. Granted Clapton might not have had the most outstanding lead on every song, but surprisinigly for me, there were more than a few where his bite was felt the most. He even took the "fast" lead in Layla when I was expecting it to be Derek.

The three other people I attended the show with all thought he excelled and was neither road-weary, bored or concerened about Derek's impending departure.

From the smiles and comraderie that the musicians showed each other the entire night it was clear this was a celebration not a wake. Maybe that's the word that's most appropriate for Mr. Selvin as in "wake up". He missed appreciating one of the great touring "bands" from the last few years on a night they and their leader were really on.

I had only one complaint about the music (besides having to endure "Wonderful Tonight" another time). During the Layla closing section Eric and Derek attempted to play complimentary leads. Unfortunately, the charming lilt of the original completely disappeared. Having one or the other play the lead while the other quietly supported would have been better. But even this was an attempt by Eric to bring his stellar supporting guitarist into the forefront one more time.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2007 at 05:28 AM
I was lucky enough to see this Tour in San Diego. Maybe "Lucky" isn't the right way to phrase it. At the last Minute, I found myself there at the show, buying a Ticket at face value ($75) and getting to my seat just as Robert Cray exited the Stage. Perfect timing. I Know a lot of people have raved about this show and That's Great, to each his own. Over the years, I'd seen Clapton 2 or 3 times and always left feeling I had seen and Heard One of the Great Guitarist Singers in Rock. But this Show was more like a Vegas act than a "Clapton" show. In San Diego, there was One extended version of a song (Queen of Spades, which clocks in at about 17 min.) with everything else being the 4 to 5 min version of the song. Very Vegas, short attention span. I listen to Eric because I love it when he "Streches out"... so to speak And when I go to a Clapton show, I want to hear Eric play, Not Doyle. I thought the Guest appearance from J.J. Cale slowed the show down terribly...Cale played with Eric and Derek for about half an Hour....Too Long.
Once again I'd rather hear Eric Play "I am Yours" acoustically w/Derek..or How about "Can't find my way Home"?... Or "Driftin' Blues"?...

The show ran about 1:50 with the Encore...
I was kind of dissapointed.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2007 at 06:33 AM
Wow! Did this guy show up to the same show everyone else went too?

I have many videos and recordings of this run and think Clapton is having a blast. He doesnt go crazy but when the time comes he lets you know it is still his gig.

I think that they gelled so well Clapton was comfortable with Derek and Doyle taking the lead. This guy missed the mark! They played as a band not individuals. As was said earlier Clapton was comfortable enough with his legacy to let the young guns shine

 

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I think the key element that the SF critic Joel Selvin misses is that this was "a band". Everyone was allowed to contribute and this was evident throughout the SJ show.


I was at 2 shows in Brisbane and agree with dzobo's post. this was a band doing what band does playing great music, the reviewer has lost the plot.


 

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  posted on 3/22/2007 at 06:03 AM
IMHO..... Live Rock & Roll comes in Two sizes. it's either a "Show"...or a "Concert"... This Clapton performance was a Show. A Vegas act.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2007 at 07:50 AM
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IMHO..... Live Rock & Roll comes in Two sizes. it's either a "Show"...or a "Concert"... This Clapton performance was a Show. A Vegas act.


The concert you saw was different from the majority of the tour because you had JJ and Derek. JJ isn't everyones cup of tea, but the half hour they added with him probably took away from the length of some songs and reduced everyones playing time somewhat.

I would have loved to see JJ but would know that's taking away from some jamming time. To get some perspective on the difference between a concert and a show I'd suggest going to see Toby Keith....now THAT'S a show!


 

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  posted on 3/22/2007 at 12:51 PM
Hearing Clapton's San Diego show referred to as a Vegas Act is really interesting (and ironic), because I actually caught the show in Vegas and it was 2 hrs of blazing jamming by Clapton, Derek and Doyle (and the 2 key players). It was somewhat akin to an Allmans show, where after every song you think "how in the world are they going to top that?" Incredible performances by all, and they band stretched the songs out beyond what I was reasonably hoping for. My understanding from others and from surfing the net is that these types of performances have been the norm on this tour. Sounds like the San Diego show was a different story, probably due to the JJ Cale factor. That's too bad, to some extent, because the standard shows have apparently been uniformly screaming good and exceptionally jammy.

One interesting observation from Vegas - heard a few folks mutter about Clapton not playing certain "hit" songs and letting the "other guys" take to many leads. There will always be these types of folks out there. Bottom line, in this day and age of easy access to information, anyone who was really into Clapton and planning to go see his show could have easily discovered what to expect - set lists and show reviews are just a mouse-click away.


 
 


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