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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 02:59 PM
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did anyone reply to my cast-iron fence/multiple locks suggestion? There's a pic of Billy the Kid's gravesite with one. Seems to work just fine. They sawed through the lock on it, thus my suggestion of multiple locks, it'd take hours to go through three or four locks, or, have a lock that's covered with a steel plate so sawing it is not possible.

just a suggestion to help in what is becoming a huge nuisance.


Oh come on, you're not a nuisance.
I responded in the "Dublin" thread about that.
There have been four fences erected around the gravesite over the years. Three were of the temporary type, and were promptly torn down. Many times phone calls would follow with the content generally being "Who are you to keep us off the graves?"
Proof of who these people were isn't court room certain, but there is a pretty good idea of what group they belong to.
One fence was left around the gravesite, but the posts holding the fence were bent level to the ground and the bushes underneath the fence were trampled down.
The other fence was eight feet high chain link with concertina razor wire on top.
The Mayor of Macon, Mr. Jim Marshall, decided that it spoiled his view as he jogged through Rose Hill, and ordered city workers to remove the fence.
the fence was removed before daybreak on morning, without a notification of the day/time of the removal.
What is really nasty about this, is that Marshall had recently fired a city engineer for mistakenly doing work on what he thought was city property, but was privately owned.



baloney. Not you, Jerry, or your post, the Mayor of Macon, first, and second, the cheesey fences put up. Cast iron, set in concrete, multiple or steel-encased locks. Again, Google "Billy the Kid's gravesite". Problem solved. In fact, one could be built that could look quite good, with flowers and ivy and such, and do honor and justice to Berry and Duane.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 03:44 PM
i left me a message too................................

 

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In fact, one could be built that could look quite good, with flowers and ivy and such, and do honor and justice to Berry and Duane.

Interesting that you would bring this up. There are plans to put up a fence surrounding the site that are tasteful and fan friendly. Plans that have been drawn up with the approval of Galadrielle, Brittany and Candace. If these plans are implemented there would be a way for visitors to have a clear view of the graves and there would be a place for any memorabilia one would wish to leave, yet the graves themselves would not be accessable. To do it this way will be more expensive than just a fence that limited access completely, estimates ranging upwards of $25,000.

So, as I said before, some of these places profiting from the gravesites need to pony up some money to help build this fence and the fans who want to be able to visit this beautiful place could help with donations specifically targeted for the gravesites. I know the first cookbook raised some money that went directly for the care of the graves, however other proceeds from the book will be going to help with the upkeep of the cemetery in general......traffic necessitates road repair, etc.

There you have it. Now all that's needed is the money to impliment the plans so everyone can continue to go and enjoy the peace and inspiration of the place.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 04:30 PM
I can attest to the need for road repairs inside Rose Hill. Back in July of last summer, when I met a few folks from the site who were in Macon for the first time, I bottomed my bike out in a big pothole and tore my kickstand return spring off the bike (Linnie will remember that, and the associated story. ) Inclement weather and water run off can beat the crap out of asphalt pavement if it gets a toe hold in the base.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 08:33 PM
My spider senses (bullchit detector) went off after reading Betty Davis's letter.

You can read the inscriptions perfectly standing at the foot of the graves.

And NO....Candace and Buford aren't the bad guys.

The City of Macon policeman and people who could right these type of situations (by fining people as they should)....shame on you.

 

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I just got a preview of some upcoming photos for this thread.....very interesting.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 09:20 PM
I'm sure she had no intention of composing a letter, until she was reminded by the HTW family that what she had done was not a nice thing to do.
Her letter is dated March 19...she was reminded of her tresspassing on the 18th.

So this is the lady who's daughter who is the attorney who was sitting on the grave with the ropes around it with the sign that says No Tresspassing ?

 

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I don't believe we have a picture of the ghost hunter women yet. There are so many, it gets confusing doesn't it!

 

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I don't believe we have a picture of the ghost hunter women yet. There are so many, it gets confusing doesn't it!



Yes it does. I feel so...so....so......militant and radical !

 

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LOL! Jon you sooo don't have a radical & militant look.....

 

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Seems they have a witness now that speaks a lot like Betty....

 

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LOL! Jon you sooo don't have a radical & militant look.....




 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 10:33 PM
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My spider senses (bullchit detector) went off after reading Betty Davis's letter.


She's got Betty Davis lies

 

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LOL!

Just checked my e-mail. Betty has also e-mailed the above same letter to the DA, who called her and told her he was very concernced.... As he well should be! Maybe if he starts prosecuting some of these "well intentioned" self centered folks it will eventually help the situation.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 11:03 PM
If that lying sack of sh*t tries to cause any more trouble for Candace and Buford I'm going to call forth a flock of angry spirits to ransack her dreams!

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 11:19 PM
It was awful nice of her to provide a written & probably recorded record of her transgressions.....

 

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Can I still summon the demons anyway?

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 11:38 PM
You bet....

 

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  posted on 3/19/2007 at 11:41 PM
If you want to see what these people are really like, go to the ghost website, click on shadowly pursuits and scroll down to haunted alabama. Scroll down a ways and check out the photo of the woman standing on the slab covering the grave. That says it all for me.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 01:33 AM
I sent an email to them too. I don't care who you are you don't have a right to trespass on anybody's grave! If I was at Rose Hill on a daily basis and saw what was going on right in front of me I would probably have been in jail numerous times by now. I can see why Candace and Buford are so angry!

I hope Cookbook #3 doesn't have to go toward Candace and Buford's defense fund!

 

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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 05:44 AM
saw the photos from 'haunted Alabama' - yikes! Talk about no respect....did she really want her foot on the gravestone photo as well? and oh so casually leaning on that headstone like it was a fence. She should have had a photo done of her with the 7' Indian Skeleton with his arm(bones) around her....

good one about the bail money cookbook for C&B!!!!

 

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poor victom...poor poor victom....









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  posted on 3/20/2007 at 08:29 AM
I still haven't recieved a reply from my e-mail, which included a copy of the "Guidelines".

Red, which DA got the e-mail, and is it identical? If it isn't, would you be able to post a copy of it here without getting into trouble?

 

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Here you go....looks the same but will post it anyways!

Hi Red, As you know there is a flip side of every situation. Please read the following letter that is in the hands of the Bibb County ( Macon) District Attorney. After sending him the email. I received a phone call from him. He was very concerned about the radical "grave watchers" and is personally looking into the situation. As well as my personal attorney who I happen to be the mother of. is checking into filing harassment charges. These people need to get a life!!! But I assure you they know that I have arrived and will think twice before they attack anyone else. Betty Davis

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March 19, 2007

To: Mr. Howard Simms Ė District Attorney

From: Betty Davis

Ref: Recent visit to your city

Dear Sir:

I and a lady friend were guests in your city this past weekend. We were their to take in the festivities of the Cherry Blossom Festival as well as doing some research at Rose Hill Cemetery. In doing genealogy research the name Temperance West had surfaced and I was to discover that she had been a victim of the Woolfolk crime
in 1887, thus I was hoping to collect some additional info that might be on her stone at Rose Hill Cemetery.

Unfortunately, this trip to Rose Hill put a serious damper to our visit to Macon, afterwards fearing for our well being we spent the remainder of our visit in our motel room. Quiet honestly I am not sure if I would feel safe ever returning to your city.

While at the cemetery and searching for the Woolfolk grave site, we were in the area on Carnation Ridge, which was near the Forest Hill section that we were looking for. We had noted from the map at the entrance of the cemetery the Duane Allman grave was in Carnation Ridge. We visited the grave site of the Allman Brothers and I was leaning over a bush/shrub at the front side of the grave trying to read the words on the epitaph at the foot of the grave.
While doing so I later realized having my camera on a strap on my wrist had fell off and into the bush/scrub. I stepped over the rope in the grave plot to retrieve my camera (as any other person would have done) and all of a sudden as I was leaning up Three (3) individuals two (2 ) males and (1 ) female came over a hill Commando style with the leader of the pack wearing a camouflage jacket.

These individuals were running toward me screaming and shooting vulgarities with the leader of the pack having a silver object in is hand pointing it at me!
All I could think of was ďOh my God these are crazed lunatics that are going to
abduct, rape and kill me. ďTo be frank with you sir the out come of this scenario could have been much more serious if this would of happen to someone carrying a weapon because all I saw was something silver pointing at me as these individuals were running and screaming toward me and all I could think of was it was a gun. I kept screaming and holding up my camera saying that all I was doing was picking up my camera that I had dropped. The main leader of the pack I discovered as he got closer to me was holding a camera and was taking a series of pictures of me while screaming in my face that he was having be arrested. I then run to my car that was parked a distance away and he then ran over got in his truck. A red truck and attempted to run my car down in the cemetery. Then a white truck emerged with the other male and the female in it writing down my car tag number while screaming verbal threats.

Apparently these people are relatives or crazed fans of the Allmanís. This was 3:30 in the afternoon. I am a 53 year old woman I weigh 128 pounds I certainly was not dressed or appeared to be a threat to any one or any thing. I am a white collar professional. I am social services cord. If this grave is such a high profile one I suggest these bunch of radicals hire armed security to protect it. I myself have a deceased brother and I certainly would not want any one trampling or desecrating his grave which I certainly DID NOT this one!! However, if someone dropped an expensive item in his grave plot and retrieved it I certainly I would not go ballistic!! One other thing!! I am NOT even a fan of the Allman Brothers and could not honestly tell you even one song that they ever recorded!

After leaving the cemetery I attempted to locate a police officer, I finally located a Lt. Parker at about 4:10 p.m. and explained to him what had took place in the cemetery. I showed him the paperwork that I had for my purpose of being in the cemetery to start with. Lt. Parker explained to me that ďall sorts of
people visited that particular grave and just blew it off ďI explained to him that
I felt threaten by these radicals. They had my picture, my car description as well as my tag number. My thoughts were what if they are just a small fraction of a larger bunch of radicals and will try to hunt me down. He told me he felt that I was safe and to enjoy the rest of our stay in Macon. (I left with the feeling this event occurs often at this cemetery) Lt. Parker was very polite but it really did not relieve my anxiety. I would of felt better perhaps if an officer would have went to the cemetery and if these individuals were still there to speak with them but that was not the case .

My friend and I instead returned to our motel parking the car in an area where it could not readily be seen and stayed put the remainder of the weekend missing all of the festival festivities.

I am bringing this matter to you attention so it can be looked into and dealt
with in hopes that the next person that visits the cemetery will not be subjected to the ordeal that I was forced to go through.
Events such as this will surely leave others with a bad taste in there mouth for your city and will not make future plans to visit it. Itís true a few bad apples can spoil it for every one. I myself being back in Florida tonight I am not sure how safe I am here with these radicals having my information. Itís a shame for the next while I will be forced to look over my shoulder just because I choose to visit Macon. This should not be happening to me or anyone else.

Again Sir, I hope you will rectify this situation at the cemetery. These radicals are going to cause someone to hurt them or get themselves hurt or worst. What
if a heart patient would visit and accidentally step the wrong way or drop something and were subjected to the treatment that I experienced. The out come could be fatal. Itís really a scary and serious situation.

I do appreciate you looking into this and hope for a postive outcome . Thank you.

Respectfully,
Betty Davis



 

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