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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 07:23 PM
Did anyone catch the RnR HoF induction? I caught most of it live Monday night on MTV's HiDef station. A few highlights were Keef Richards intruducing The Ronnettes...he was so friggin' classic, he same swaggerin' out with an unlit cig hanging off his lower lip and said something like "thanks to the mircale of modern medicine I'm able to stand here and say good evening ladies and gentleman". His intro of the Ronnette's was a mix of funny and believe it or not touching. Of course Van Halen was also inducted...they were introduced by Velvet Revolver who then did one song, a rendition of Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love, which was just ok...Weiland's vocals sounded like crap IMO. Micheal and Sammy were the only VH members there and after Velvet Revolver they did Why Can't This Be Love with the house band (Paul Shaeffer on keys). In the press room afterwards they both said they hoped Eddie would come out of rehab ok and that everyone including themselves could "grow up" and put together a VH reunion tour, they didn't seem to think that it was out of the question...Sammy even said he would step aside for DLR since that's what the fans want. The other inductees were Patti Smith (is it me or could she pass as a Howard Stern look-alike these days) and R.E.M. (was never a big fan but gotta admit they sounded great, Eddie Vedder sang with them) and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Itís like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under). They also did nice tributes to late Atlantic Records co-founder Ahmet Ertegun and James Brown. Some of the clips from past shows were great, I really dug the clip of BB King, Buddy Guy and Eric Clapton playing together. All in all I thought it was a pretty cool show, very eclectic assortment of music.

Here's a more complete recap if yer interested...

http://www.spinner.com/2007/03/12/liveblogging-the-rock-hall/

 

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 07:42 PM
I am reallly against the idea that a rap artist is inducted, especially when many worthy rock and roll acts are still waiting patiently to get in. But I guess I'll have to live with it.

I still feel that rap is not related to rock, and should have its own hall of fame (where I doubt any rock artists will even be considered).

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 07:46 PM
Me too Barry! There are many rock groups/stars way over due for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame including ABB!
 

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 07:48 PM
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Me too Barry! There are many rock groups/stars way over due for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame including ABB!


ABB is in the HoF, inducted in '95

http://www.rockhall.com/inductee/the-allman-brothers-band

 

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 08:30 PM
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Me too Barry! There are many rock groups/stars way over due for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame including ABB!


ABB is in the HoF, inducted in '95

http://www.rockhall.com/inductee/the-allman-brothers-band[/url]


Oh Lord!! And what a ceremony it was! Allman Brothers, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, Frank Zappa, and Janis Joplin to name a few.

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 10:34 PM
Velvet Revolver was an abomination. Other than Slash's introduction comments about EVH, they were insecere in their introduction and their renditions of VH tunes was horrible. And it wasn't just ATBL. They also did a horrible horrible take on Runaround to cover the Van Hagar years. The whole thing was insulting to VH. The only thing worse was Alex and DLR. At least Al had the "excuse" that he was staying near his brother in rehab as moral support. DLR friggin' lives in Manahattan and bailed. The whole thing ruined what could've been a great moment, even with EVH in rehab. For example, Dweezil Zappa & Gene Simmons could've done the induction and both DLR and Hagar could've performed with the house band. If Paul Shaeffer's guitarist couldn't play the EVH licks (he was struggling on Why Can't This Be Love, which doesn't have any guitar solos or licks to speak of), then I'm sure Steve Vai or Steve Luthaker or someone else would've been thrilled to sit in. They could've done one CVH original tune, one original Van Hagar tune.....and if the singers could've acted a third of their age, they could've both sang a classic VH cover tune together. Fvcking hell.....the Atomic Punks (tribute band) would've been better than the debacle that was Velvet Revolver. And Herion Weiland's speech was about as half-a$$ as I could think of. I could've come up with more sincere thoughts about the friggin BeeGees than what he had to say about VH.

The one postive note was that both Hagar and Mike Anthony played things cool. They were both well within their right to bash the Brothers and DLR. It was a worse showing by a band than what would be expected at a third-tier musical awards show like the AMA, much less than the friggin' HoF (say what you will about the HoF having sold its soul down the river).

There are plenty of clips left online if you want to relive the debacle: http://spinner.aol.com/rockhall/2007-induction-ceremony

 

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  posted on 3/15/2007 at 10:39 PM
I will say that the tributes to Ahmet Ertegun and James Brown kicked a$$ though. Just fast forward past the other crap.

Again, kudos to Mike Anthony and Hagar for being stand-up guys at both the event and the press Q&A afterwards. The press was trying to bait Hagar into comments about EVH and DLR, and Mike Anthony about being unceremoniously booted from a band for NO reason after 30 years in favor of a 15 year old who just started playing bass 6 months ago. The VH brothers are total a-holes who've sullied their legacy.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 12:18 AM
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Velvet Revolver was an abomination. Other than Slash's introduction comments about EVH, they were insecere in their introduction and their renditions of VH tunes was horrible. And it wasn't just ATBL. They also did a horrible horrible take on Runaround to cover the Van Hagar years. The whole thing was insulting to VH. The only thing worse was Alex and DLR. At least Al had the "excuse" that he was staying near his brother in rehab as moral support. DLR friggin' lives in Manahattan and bailed. The whole thing ruined what could've been a great moment, even with EVH in rehab. For example, Dweezil Zappa & Gene Simmons could've done the induction and both DLR and Hagar could've performed with the house band. If Paul Shaeffer's guitarist couldn't play the EVH licks (he was struggling on Why Can't This Be Love, which doesn't have any guitar solos or licks to speak of), then I'm sure Steve Vai or Steve Luthaker or someone else would've been thrilled to sit in. They could've done one CVH original tune, one original Van Hagar tune.....and if the singers could've acted a third of their age, they could've both sang a classic VH cover tune together. Fvcking hell.....the Atomic Punks (tribute band) would've been better than the debacle that was Velvet Revolver. And Herion Weiland's speech was about as half-a$$ as I could think of. I could've come up with more sincere thoughts about the friggin BeeGees than what he had to say about VH.

The one postive note was that both Hagar and Mike Anthony played things cool. They were both well within their right to bash the Brothers and DLR. It was a worse showing by a band than what would be expected at a third-tier musical awards show like the AMA, much less than the friggin' HoF (say what you will about the HoF having sold its soul down the river).

There are plenty of clips left online if you want to relive the debacle: http://spinner.aol.com/rockhall/2007-induction-ceremony


I couldn't have said it better. I am a fan of Slash and Velvet Revolver, but I lost a little respect for them after that induction debacle. They have a ton of work to do if they ever want to even touch Van Halen's jock straps. They should learn to respect those who paved the way. They couldn't match either of VH lineup's and if Weiland is going to sing like he did on Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love he should just hang it up. This was supposed to be a special night and it turned into an awkward mess. I felt really bad for Michael Anthony. He was obviously embarraced by the whole thing. I'm glad that Mike and Sammy came out and played. That was the only good part. They also should have let Roth do whatever song he wanted. This night was about Van Halen, not Velvet Revolver. Their next album is gonna have to be damn good to make up for this with me.

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 10:28 AM
I watched the show on MTVHD and I sat there mortified. Ronnie Spector was an egomaniac who obviously didn'y want to share the stage with the other two. The rap group-I'm sorry-not R&Roll. R.E.M. takes themselves way to seriously and Pattii Smith....please....please.. be honest with youself. That is NOT talent. Dropping the"N" word and singing lousy (like an out of tune man) just is not HOF worthy. Hagar and Anthony were the only grateful, honest inducties. I'd take hard working, 'not cool' bands like The Doobie Brothers, Grand Funk, Deep Purple over this crap anyday. If this is who they put in these days; the best of R&Roll is over!
P.S. Off the subject-I thought Chuck should have received an award with the brothers. He is a true Allman Brother.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 10:49 AM
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I am reallly against the idea that a rap artist is inducted, especially when many worthy rock and roll acts are still waiting patiently to get in. with it.


[Edited on 3/16/2007 by BarrySmith]
amen brother. the hall of fame is a joke. where the hell is YES, RUSH , KISS, ALICE COOPER, JUDAS PRIEST, IRON MAIDEN, DEEP PURPLE to name a few. f-n shame

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 10:56 AM
The show was SAD on many levels. Thought Ronnie Spector's dentures were going to fall out.
Patti Smith.....is she one of the most physically unattractive females on the planet? She can grow a better stache than me! (I know, very crude, but CHRIST, do something about the facial hair!!)
The Furious 5 was kind of a mess. I think that they thought this induction was going to spur some kind of rebirth of their careers.....sorry to say it, but its just not gonna happen. I think there won't be too many 50+ year old hip hop stars in the future either. Very funny that they acted as though the show was over at the end of their set. My wife and I had a good chuckle over that.
REM....BOOOR-ING.
The Van Halen segment was also just AWFUL! I lost a ton of respect for Scott Weiland after this shameful event. Absolutely horrendous. WTF was going on with his voice?? It seemed contrived and down right bizarre. It was as though he was mocking VH. The CBS Orchestra tune with Sam & Mike was pretty weak as well.
The only highlight, aside from the past performance clips, was the class of Sammy Hagar and Mike Anthony. They both just seem like very genuine, humble dudes. I'd love to do some drinking with these guys.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:05 AM
I vote for THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND

http://www.petitiononline.com/MTBHOF/petition.html

These guys are long overdue.



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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:09 AM
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The Van Halen segment was also just AWFUL! I lost a ton of respect for Scott Weiland after this shameful event. Absolutely horrendous. WTF was going on with his voice?? It seemed contrived and down right bizarre. It was as though he was mocking VH. The only highlight, aside from the past performance clips, was the class of Sammy Hagar and Mike Anthony. They both just seem like very genuine, humble dudes. I'd love to do some drinking with these guys.

i agree. i think he was truely making fun of it. he sang like elvis and count dracula. f-him. dancing around like a dickhead. i never thought much of v.r. anyway

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:15 AM
R&R hall of fame is a complete joke untill groups like Deep Purple Ten Years After Canned Heat and a ton of others are in when you vote in a rap group ahead of any of the groups i mentioned or the many others then how can you take it seriously? as a joke i do not watch it disgusting!

 

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R&R hall of fame is a complete joke untill groups like Deep Purple Ten Years After Canned Heat and a ton of others are in when you vote in a rap group ahead of any of the groups i mentioned or the many others then how can you take it seriously? as a joke i do not watch it disgusting!



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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:41 AM
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The Van Halen segment was also just AWFUL! I lost a ton of respect for Scott Weiland after this shameful event. Absolutely horrendous. WTF was going on with his voice?? It seemed contrived and down right bizarre. It was as though he was mocking VH.


Did something happen between VR and VH? Im missing something I think.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:41 AM
I agree about the Van Halen induction. Disrespectful and rude. I wasn't at all surprised that Weiland couldn't deliver, but Slash? The riff to ATBL is probably the easiest EVH ever wrote. It's a good thing they didn't play one of EVH's really difficult tunes. I am glad Sam and Mike wished Eddie well. While he's no angel, they both owe a great deal to Ed. As a big VH fan, I'm hoping Ed will come out of rehab a better person and apologize to both for his past mistakes and treatment of both of them. And I have to say I'm shocked Dave didn't make the event. The guy lives for the spotlight. Suck it up and just f*cking play.....
 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:43 AM
You have to add Yes to the deserving groups that are not in the Hall. The biggest disappointment is actually going to the hall and paying money to see outfits worn by Brittany Spears and Christine Agulerra
 
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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:52 AM
I agree with all the comments. Rap has no place in the RRHOF and if it was the other way around, you bet there would NEVER be a rock band being inducted there!!

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:55 AM
They are starting to induct bands that really don't deserve the merit IMHO-but then again, the R&R HOF is an event. A big, promotional show. Looking at it from that perspective, I guess it really doesn't matter who gets in, & who doesn't.

I mean, are some of these artists/bands really "waiting to get in" the R&R HOF? Wasn't Ozzy Osbourne looking at the whole Black Sabbath thing as a joke? He may not be a deep, introspective thinker, but he seems to have the right idea of what the music business is all about. A big, clump of bullshiat.

Unlike sports, where the criteria to get in is based mostly on statistics, music & art is quite difficult to categorize in terms of what people would deem as "HOF worthy".

In a few years, bands such as G&R will get in. Madonna. Janet Jackson. Pearl Jam. I don't know......

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 11:59 AM
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The Van Halen segment was also just AWFUL! I lost a ton of respect for Scott Weiland after this shameful event. Absolutely horrendous. WTF was going on with his voice?? It seemed contrived and down right bizarre. It was as though he was mocking VH.


Did something happen between VR and VH? Im missing something I think.
well from what i read, dave wanted to sing JUMP and v.r. did not. they wanted to do you relly got me and dave said no because it was not a v.h. song

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 12:12 PM
I agree that the HOF has become a joke, and that a lot of worthy bands (Doobies, Grand Funk, Deep Purple, Marshall Tucker ........the list goes on and on) don't get in and probably never will. And why is that? Because these bands didn't go around being the "critics darlings", but instead spend their time, out touring, making music that your average working class Joe could understand and enjoy and feel like he got his moneys worth when he saw them live in performance. Here's a salute to the hard working, touring, rock and roll bands who'll never be in the RnR HOB, but nevertheless understand what "rock and roll" is really about. Many HOFers could take some lessons from these guys.
 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 12:13 PM
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Patti Smith.....is she one of the most physically unattractive females on the planet? She can grow a better stache than me!


For me, the highlight was Patti Smith. Jeez, she is still rocking and is the ultimate rebel, the woman who decided she could be Keith Richards and Jim Morrison rolled into one. All the comments here are about her looks?!? I can understand that, because the ABB are sooo good looking these days and Keith is as cute as a button and EVH, well, checking into rehab just makes you MORE attractive! C'mon, stop being such hypocritical idiots! If your only comment is about looks, you miss the point. Patti has been fighting the power longer than most and (imho) was the most deserving person inducted this year. I've seen Patti several times and her concerts rival any you will ever see in your life. She is a writer with several published books to her credit and her lyrics are up there with just about anyone including Dylan's, who has shared the stage with her on some occasions. Check out her piece in the NY times for how she felt about being inducted. She says it better than I could.

 

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For me, the highlight was Patti Smith. Jeez, she is still rocking and is the ultimate rebel, the woman who decided she could be Keith Richards and Jim Morrison rolled into one. All the comments here are about her looks?!? I can understand that, because the ABB are sooo good looking these days and Keith is as cute as a button and EVH, well, checking into rehab just makes you MORE attractive! C'mon, stop being such hypocritical idiots! If your only comment is about looks, you miss the point. Patti has been fighting the power longer than most and (imho) was the most deserving person inducted this year. I've seen Patti several times and her concerts rival any you will ever see in your life. She is a writer with several published books to her credit and her lyrics are up there with just about anyone including Dylan's, who has shared the stage with her on some occasions. Check out her piece in the NY times for how she felt about being inducted. She says it better than I could.


Although i wouldn't call the other repliers "hypocritical idiots" i fully agree with everything else said by "amyjared".
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion and a personal taste in music but saying that Patti
is a non-talent is absolute crap. If you hate her music well that's fine with me.
If anyone of this year's nominee's deserves to be honored with an induction it's her.
She never had the looks but she is an extremely talented musician, poet, songwriter and
has 100% integrity and credibility. Her live performances are very captivating. She rocks!
Congrats Patti !!!

 

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  posted on 3/16/2007 at 12:48 PM
It was pretty bad. It was very disorganized and way too long.

Iím so fed up with Van Halen, but Sam and Mike showed that they were the bigger men by attending the ceremony and not bashing the other members of the band. They even thanked Gary Cherone (which is a stretch).

From what I heard, the conflict between Velvet Revolver and DLR stemmed from the fact that Dave wanted to sing, but the producers wanted VR to play instead.

The RR Hall of Fame needs to be more selective in their inductions, limiting it no more than 3 artists a year.

One more rant. They showed clips of past induction ceremonies and I didn't see the Allmans once. Maybe I missed it, but that was a travesty.



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