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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 03:50 PM

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:00 PM
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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:35 PM
I'm not familiar with them-but they were rockin,... cowbell and everything.
 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:36 PM
Man good find i have always been a fan of CB, Rod Evans Deep Purples first singer is a great vocalist,Rhino is a killer guitar plaer Bobby Caldwell man this guy can play drums and Lee Doorman ..freeking great band...way ahead of their time...

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 06:36 PM
Fantastic band,& a favorite of mine ! Got to see them live twice.....

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 06:50 PM
First and only time I saw anyone shooting up was Rhino.

I saw them at the old Agora Ballroom in Atlanta ( which incidently was directly across the street from the Fox).

I worked for a big record company at the time and sometimes we had back stage access after the concerts. After they played my co-worker wanted to go meet Rod Evans.

When we walked in Rhino had the needle in his arm Rod Evans freaked out..I still remember Rod Evans in that heavy English accent saying...My GOD Rhino what are you doing?

I was barely 17 and it scared the sh*t out of me too; and I got the heck outta there. My buddy said I turned white as a sheet. LOL

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 07:41 AM
Recorded for Capricorn & if memory serves me correct, the first album was dedicated to Duane. Anyone have a copy of the LP with the funky cover?

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 08:38 AM
I do have a copy of the original album with the funky hologram thingy on the front. And yes you are right it is dedicated to Duane. This is a very rare vinyl and much sought after for those who collect rare and funky albums. Thanks for the video Skypup, it was a real treat!

[Edited on 3/1/2007 by PattyG]

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 11:37 AM
WOW.......WHAT A FIND!!!! Thanks so much, I was unaware that ANY footage of this band existed. I saw them open for Black Sabbath at The Hollywood Bowl in 1972, second act was Gentle Giant. I was 17. Largely unknown fact: Tony Iommi suffered a nervous breakdown at this show.........Sabbath played for 45 minutes and would not even come back for an encore. There of course was a lot of booing going on; the MC came out and said that Iommi was sick........."sorry, he's throwing up backstage." I learned many years later on VH1 that Iommi actually had a nervous breakdown. Sabbath was being pushed relentlessly by their promoters, both in their touring and recording schedules, which was the reason Iommi went over the edge. Meanwhile (of course), Sabbath's promoters were screwing them financially, setting them up in large English mansions which they THOUGHT they all owned, but were really owned by the corporation.

Anyway, back to the point: Because of Sabbath's short set, Captain Beyond really stole the show that night. They were INCREDIBLE.......... they played the entire first record straight through, they were EXTREMELY loud, and they EXTREMELY ROCKED, great stage act, all of them jumping around the stage much more than in this video. As seen here, they all had the hair thing going on, and they sure were all whipping it around that night for a sold out (20,000) Hollywood Bowl. They simply BUZZED the crowd, standing ovation when they were done, and I don't think anyone really knew who they were. I had begged a good friend named Rick who happened to be a pretty good guitar player to go to this show with me to see Sabbath; he declined. Neither of us, nor the buddy I ended up going with, had ever heard of Captain Beyond. I went right out and bought the first record that same week, and after Rick heard it, he wanted to kill himself for not going. Still one of the great hard rock records EVER recorded, simply an incredible album. And there sure weren't many more chance to see CB, they were very short-lived.

That backstage story is HEAVY, peachstate; anyone know if Rhino is still around?

[Edited on 3/1/2007 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 12:07 PM
The CAPTAIN BEYOND story
researched by Hartmut Kreckel with the help of Lee Dorman (interviewed in Elbingerode, Mehrzweckhalle 22.03.97 and Halle, Easy Schorre 24.03.97), Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt and Bobby Caldwell (interviewed in Karlshamn, First Hotel 11. and 13.06. 99) and Reese Wynans: interviewed in Ludwigshafen, Stadthalle 04.86.

How Captain Beyond came together...
Lee Dorman remembers: "Rhino and I were touring with Iron Butterfly through Europe in early 71 and we knew that this band would be officially over after the summer US tour of that year, so we decided to do something together... Bobby Caldwell was playing the same places as we did in Europe with Johnny Winter two weeks behind us and Rhino stayed in contact with Bobby, whom he knew from Florida. It also seemed at that time that Johnny Winter was going to take a rest for six months to a year. So we got Bobby interested in doing something. I personally financed the whole thing and we all wanted to go that Jazz Rock direction, we got together in July 71 and played 2 or 3 weeks and then we started to look around for a lead singer and through our old manager we found out that Rod Evans wasn´t working, so we contacted him and he came down to a audition and liked the situation, so we jammed more and we had a recorder in the house... so that´s how the band got together... Bobby and I recorded the first album in two days only, that´s how tight it was! We knew the songs from a to b, Rhino was hitting a few chords and we just recorded it along..."

Rhino remembers: "Lee and I played with Bobby and it just clicked, we wanted to do something totally different and just the way Bobby plays makes it totally different. Chris Squire from Yes came one morning to me, when we were uploading the bus and said to me "you guys look like Captain Beyond!"
Bobby Caldwell remembers: "Rhino and Lee came out to see me play with Johnny Winter to check me out"

The first demo of Captain Beyond...
Rhino remembers: "We did it at my studio, it had "Can´t Feel Nothing"..."
Bobby remembers: "... and it had "Icarus"... it was like 20min. of material... I guess "Ranging River of Fear" was on it too..."
Lee Dorman remembers: "I believe it was the whole first album being demoed"

The name "Captain Beyond":
Lee Dorman: "... when we were on that european tour of Iron Butterfly in 71, we were travelling with Yes, with whom we did the tour and there was a strike by Lufthansa, so we had to chart a airplane by a company named "General Air". A game of words started and suddenly, we were on a bus late one night, someone said "Captain Beyond", we thought it sounded good and kept it..."
The crystal ball in the hands of the Captain on their album cover contains the earthsign symbols of fire and water.

First and second album songwriting credits:
Lee Dorman: "It was a financial, publishing decision to credit all the songs to Bobby Caldwell and Rod Evans, as Rhino and myself were under contract and in litigation with Iron Butterfly, so we did it that way... All four of us wrote the whole first album together, the music and the lyrics. On the second album Bobby was no longer in the band, Rhino still was in liquidation with Iron Butterfly, Rod was in litigation with Deep Purple and I was free of contract, so it says "All songs by Lee Dorman". But when the money came in for the first two albums we were all equal! When Bobby quit, Larry and I thought about going into a different direction and tried out a few things, keyboards, percussion players sax, maybe a second guitar and once we found the players we wrote along that feel. The lyrics on "Sufficiently Breathless" were written all by Rod, Rhino and myself and 90% of the music too, but we gave Guille and Marty a point as well, although they were sidemen they contributed to the arrangements".

Gigs:
Lee Dorman: "The president of Capricorn, our label, was also our manager and suddenly all these Southern Rock bands became quite popular, and we were quite different, so we kind of got pushed backwards and there was never enough being done for us. We only played like 60-70 gigs in the that two year period with Rod".
From the first album they played live AFAIK every song, except "Ranging River Of Fear" and "Thousand Days Of Yesterdays (Time Since Come And Gone)". It´s also known that the song "Dawn Explosion" was performed live during the time with Rod, the same goes for "Pandora´s Box (The Land Of...)", which was done in Arlington 73, and according to Lee was played a few times only.

Lee Dorman: "From "Sufficiently Breathless" we performed live Distant Sun, Drifting in Space, Starglow Energy, Everything´s A Circle and Bright Blue Tango. We became involved in a problem with the record company in late 73, everyone was tired of sitting around and doing nothing, rehearsing and nothing happening, so we decided to call it a day..."
Reese Wynans remembers: "Captain Beyond was a great band to play with, but from the management side it was terribly organized... I was very poor at that time, living in somebody´s else garage, so I needed to work and had to quit. I played on all the songs on "Sufficiently Breathless", except the title track. I only played one show with them..."



About Rod Evans:
Lee Dorman: "... Rod walked out of the studio midway through the recording of "Sufficiently Breathless", I really don´t know the reasons why, his wife was making pressure or something and he felt disgusted with the management situation, but he never really talked about it. He finished the album and that was it... not too long ago we found out that Polydor Japan was releasing our records and after a while we got the royalties cheques... so we had to put Rod´s share on hold, as nobody could find him. I contacted him via his manager and forwarded my number to him, saying please call back... never heared of him. He seems to live in the San Francisco area now and I haven´t seen him since he left the band, same goes for the other band members, noone has talked to Rod ever since he left... We had some rough times together, he was a great guy, I liked him."

Reformation:
Lee Dorman: "Warner and Capricorn had a deal and contacted us in 1976 to do another album. In the interim I was working as a engineer/producer for demo bands for Warner Bros. We started to audition singers and were quite happy with Willy Daffern. We have a outtake of "Icarus" and a studio version of the song "Dawn Explosion" that wasn´t used for that album. We did like 15 to 20 gigs with that line-up."
Rhino: "... I first met Willy in a liquor store..."
Bobby Caldwell: "... after Willy left, we tried out Jimmy Henderson for a time in 1978..."
Rhino: "... and then Jimmy went with me in my band named "Rhino", we were managed by the manager of Styx and toured for six months in 1979..."



n Retrospective...:
Lee Dorman: "Looking back, we lacked of proper management. I think if we´d gone out doing 150 gigs a year it would have done much better. Our management did nothing for us, it was like "we´ll get back to you" and they never did a thing, so what could you do about it... They should have bought us into a tour to open up for someone who would really draw some people, but it never happened... There were several attenpts of reforming Captain Beyond over the years, but it never got beyond talking about it, and the only chance to do it seemed, if I was going to do anything... I´m now with Iron Butterfly and surely I can do one thing at the time only, but THERE´LL ALWAYS BE A PLACE IN MY HEART FOR CAPTAIN BEYOND...´CAUSE THIS WAS REALLY A LABOUR OF LOVE..."
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Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt:
Started in the Georgia based bands "Load" (1967-69) and "The Second Coming" (1969-70), before joining Iron Butterfly in early 1970, recording the "Metemorphosis" album. After Iron Butterfly split in 1971, Rhino formed Captain Beyond, together with Lee Dorman, and his unique guitar playing can be heared on their three albums. He guested on two songs (Don´t Let Me Down / I Don´t Want To Get Hurt By Your Love Again) of Bobby Womack´s "Looking For A Love" album, which was released in 1974 and plays on the Robert Tepper album "No Rest For The Wounded Heart", which was finally released in 1996, having been recorded in 91 as Iron Butterfly.
After Captain Beyond split in 1977, Rhino had his own band named "Rhino" in 1979 that included former Tucky Buzzard and 1978 Iron Butterfly singer Jimi Henderson and toured the US in support of Stephen Stills. He also co-wrote the song "Here It Comes Again" on Mike Pinera´s album "Forever", this contribution remained uncredited. Ryno then teamed up with Gary Graber in the band Mad Dancer. He was in several versions of Iron Butterfly with Lee Dorman (1978, 80, 84, 89 and 92), that also included Doug Ingle (1978, 84), Ron Bushy (1978, 92) and Erik Keith Brann (1989). For a while he quit music biz, until in 1998 he started to reform Captain Beyond with Bobby Caldwell.
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Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt (at one point known as "El Rhino" and "Ryno") is an American guitarist who started his musical career in 1967 with a Georgian based band called "Load" and left in 1969. From 1969-1970 he was guitarist for "The Second Coming." In late 1969, Rhino and Blues Image guitarist and lead singer, Mike Pinera were recruited to replace Iron Butterfly's guitarist from their famous In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida and Ball albums, Erik Brann. From late 1969 to early 1970 Iron Butterfly recorded and released their fourth and only albums with Rhino and Mike Pinera, Metamorphosis. After Iron Butterfly disbanded in 1971 Rhino and fellow Iron Butterfly bassist Lee Dorman immediately formed Captain Beyond and recruited Bobby Caldwell on drums and Deep Purple vocalist, Rod Evans. The lineup consisted of Rod Evans with vocals and writing duties, Larry on lead guitars, Lee Dorman on bass and backing vocals, and Bobby Caldwell on drums and writing duties. With this lineup Captain Beyond released their first album Captain Beyond. In 1973 Captain Beyond recorded their live album: Far Beyond A Distant Sun - Live Arlington, Texas, but this album wasn't officially released until 2002 by the Dream Clinic, and can be found for sale on eBay. In 1973 with Bobby Caldwell left and Rod, Lee, and Rhino were left to find another drummer, Marty Rodriguez, and also recruited a keyboard player and recorded and released Sufficiently Breathless which had a Latin jazz flavor to it. Shortly after Captain Beyond broke up. In 1974 he guested on two songs by Bobby Womack(Don't Let Me Down/I Don't Want To Get Hurt By Your Love Again) on the album Lookin' For A Love Again. In 1976 Lee Dorman, Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt, and Bobby Caldwell reformed Captain Beyond and first recruited a singer by the name of Jason Cahune but was shortly replaced by Willy Daffern (Willy Dee), and they recorded and released their third studio album Dawn Explosion in 1977. Shortly after Captain Beyond once again broke up. For the remainder of the 70s Rhino formed "The Ryno Band" which ended in 1981 and Rhino joined Mad Dancer with singer/guitarist Gary Graber, Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt on lead guitar/vocals, Joe Starkovich on drums, Ron "The Liar" Larsen on bass, and Perry Stronge on lead vocals. With this lineup Mad Dancer released their only album "Lost Worlds" of which Rhino performs on three songs: "Still A Boy," "Serious," and "Such A Feeling." Rhino has been in many incarnations of Iron Butterfly (1978, 1980, 1984, 1989, and in 1989.) In 1991 he played on the Robert Tepper album "No Rest For The Wounded Heart" which was finally released in 1996, having been recorded in 1991 as Iron Butterfly. Rhino quit the music business until in 1998 he and original drummer Bobby Caldwell reformed Captain Beyond with Jimi Interval on lead vocals, Dan Frye on keyboards, and Jeff Artabasy (also known as "The Count") on bass to finish up the lineup. In late 1999-2000 this lineup recorded a four track ep with songs "Don't Cry Over Me", "Gotta Move", "Be As You Were", and "Night Train Calling (Crystal Clear)." Captain Beyond is still touring today and there is of yet not much info on a new album.


All info from an unofficial Captain Beyond Website and Wikipedia............





 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 01:03 PM
WOW! THANK YOU to skypup for helping me discover this band. I've been sampling tunes from the first album and I'm DIGGIN IT. Just listened to the tune Raging River of Fear. VERY "Blindman" Mule feel going on in the middle of this tune.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 05:09 PM
Nothing they did ever outshone their first album. A lot of hard rockin songs on that mammerjammer. Partied many a night dancing madly backwards!

The title song from their second LP, "Sufficiently Breathless" got some good airplay around my parts. Kind of had that "Yes" feel to it don't you all think?

Oh, and your quite welcome Mule75 bro.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 05:59 PM
I had completely forgotten about that band. My older brother had one of their albums, I remember the cover of the Captain Beyond dude was cool.

I also had no idea of their history, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, etc.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 06:07 PM
This came from my good friend and future ex wife, drobyn . LOL

http://www.myspace.com/captianbeyond

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 06:31 PM
I guess because of the Capricorn connection, I always thought they were a southern band. But,I had never listened to them. Great post! Thanks, guys!
 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 09:15 PM
Thanks Kenny,that was great reading.The Rod Evans era Deep Purple was a fav. with Hush , Kentucky Woman etc. I actually have a cassette tape of the last incarnation of Captain Beyond with Jimi Interval on vocals.Traded him an ABB Warehouse show (with Bobby Caldwell) that he wanted back when people still traded tapes.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 10:10 AM
Back in the 70's my buddy Joey and I with our dates went to he Great Southeast Music Hall in Atlanta to see Taj Mahol and then the next night we were going to the Omni and catch The Who.

If you ever went there they sold beer in little metal buckets and you sat on the floor. Anyway about halfway through Taj's first set I started looking at this guy sitting all by himself in front of us. I leaned over my date and punched Joey on the shoulder and said "That's Pete Townsend sitting there." Joey said "Bulls**t" I said no it's Townsend....we went back and forth a couple of times and Pete Townsend turned around and said "Shhhh....everybody is going to recognise me". We got to talking during the break and found out another guy in our group who was English had a brother that Pete knew from school.

Anyway we wound up going to Richards after Taj to see Captain Beyond with Pete. He knew Rhino from the Iron Butterfly days and wanted to see the band. Pete stayed until closing....the next night at the Omni Pete made a comment about seeing Taj and Captain Beyond with a group of new friends he had met.

I'll say this, pete was a very down to earth, straight ahead guy who was not on an star trip.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 01:24 PM
Awsome 70s Band! Love Sufficiently Breathless!
 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 01:38 PM
I wanted to give this thread one more bump because I just looked on amazon.com and they have Captain Beyond's first record, "Captain Beyond" on CD for $9.98. Hey, anyone of ANY age group who appreciates GREAT hard rock and does not have this record should be logging on to Amazon right now and doing yourself a HUGE favor. CLASSY is the best word I can use for this record. And don't go by the video in this thread, although that is all taken from he record........the sound on the CD is much more polished than that, and it holds up extremely well after 35 years. If you appreciate Cream, you will certainly appreciate "Captain Beyond", an all-time classic.

[Edited on 3/2/2007 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 02:50 PM
Do what the man says you will not regret it ..



[Edited on 3/3/2007 by Rydethwind]

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 03:12 PM
The last two posts say it all -- the best space-rock ever recorded -- the kind of album that will never not sound "in" regardless of what the prevailing or "popular" sound of the day is -- this album is simply timeless
"an open-air relic, of the things that used to be/many years have passed, since your vision came to me/and I only think of you now, as the moon speaks tp The Sea!..." then they go into this hard-rocking riff right after this part, which is dreamy outer-space stuff -- to the people who know tis album, they know it's one of the best listens in their collections.


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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 04:27 PM
Thanks, rydethewind and stephen, for backing me up on what a classic "Captain Beyond" is. Just wanted to add one thing, because I was kind of wondering why the sound on this record holds up so damn well after 35 years. It's already been noted that there is a slight ABB connection here in that CB recorded on Capricorn. Anyway, I was curious at who did the sound. The CD credits: "Produced by Captain Beyond. Engineer: Wayne Dailey. Mixed by Johnny Sandlin."

Way to go, Johnny.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 10:25 PM
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I wanted to give this thread one more bump because I just looked on amazon.com and they have Captain Beyond's first record, "Captain Beyond" on CD for $9.98. Hey, anyone of ANY age group who appreciates GREAT hard rock and does not have this record should be logging on to Amazon right now and doing yourself a HUGE favor. CLASSY is the best word I can use for this record. And don't go by the video in this thread, although that is all taken from he record........the sound on the CD is much more polished than that, and it holds up extremely well after 35 years. If you appreciate Cream, you will certainly appreciate "Captain Beyond", an all-time classic.


Thanks for the heads up on their CD on Amazon Rob. I have a burned copy here at home, but the sound is kinda lost. I need to buy that first CD of theirs no doubt!

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 11:31 PM



Although Rod Evans was gone by the Third CD, I actually liked some of it.

The Guitar work was good....the songs were hit and miss.



 

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