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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 05:47 PM
When the Allman Brothers Band broke up in 1982 was it because they couldn't stand each other or was it the music seen of the early 80's. I know the two Arista albums is somthing the ABB would soon like to forget.

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 05:48 PM
Probably a little of both. hehehehe

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 07:01 PM
yeah the two toler brothers albums were pretty bad. brothers of the road and reach for the sky. it might have been the drugs tho.
 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 07:36 PM
I have the HELL AND HIGH WATER compliation album, and I really like what I hear. I especially like "Madness of the West" which is basically a "Pegasus" clone, which is basically a "High Falls" clone w/ similar structure and drum solos.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 07:39 PM
Frankie Toler only played on Brothers Of The Road. Jaimoe was on Reach For The Sky.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 11:24 PM
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I have the HELL AND HIGH WATER compliation album, and I really like what I hear. I especially like "Madness of the West" which is basically a "Pegasus" clone, which is basically a "High Falls" clone w/ similar structure and drum solos.


There are structural similarities in Pegasus and Madness, High Falls though is pretty much a different animal -- no extended intro, no drum solo, sort of a mellower feel

The Arista albums I find interesting in the sense that in addition to Hell and High Water, isn't there another CD comp of these two albums, under a different title and with a different combination of songs? Am almost sure of it. It just goes to show how subjective music is -- these two albums get dumped on PLENTY, but still, not one, but two best of comps result from them.
I agree with you, some of the songs from these two albums I like real well too.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 11:38 PM
If you pull the best stuff from the Arista years, you'd have a fine album.

Things You Used to Do
Leavin'
Never Knew How Much
From the Madness of the West
Hell & High Water
Famous Last Words
Angeline
Brothers of the Road
The Judgement
So Long

Not half bad.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 03:44 PM
More like 3/4 bad.
 
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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:08 PM
I remember the break up then and thought oh *&#(. Greggs band use to stop in Charlotte occasionally. I cant remember which year it was. But a show came to a place called Kidnappers.
I bet that place didnt hold 500 hundred people. The show was co-billed. The Gregg Allman Band and The Dickey Betts Band or maybe Great Southern. The ABB had been broke up for a while. Any rumor them getting back together were slim.

That night the majic was in the air. Dickeys band played first. Then Greggs band. Both sets were pretty short. Then both bands came out and played together. It was one of my most incredible shows I have ever attended, except getting to see Duane in the early days. They didnt miss a beat.

For the ABB fan it was like we all died and went to heaven. About a year after that the Brothers reunited. It was the Toler Brothers, Goldflies, era. What a night. I sat on the edge of the low stage and leaned against a stage monitor in disbelief.

Everyone had the grins on like a Mule eating briars and were happy as a opossum on mating day. Folks can say what they want about the quality of music then. But it was all we had at the time and we loved it.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:10 PM
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More like 3/4 bad.



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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:25 PM
Just my own opinion, but this is the era that prompted me to go off and leave the ABB for a few years. The songs were well played and recorded but they just didn't sound like the Allman Brother's to me. I remember when I heard "Crazy Love" - I thought it was the best Lynnyrd Skynrd song I'd ever heard. Then someone pointed out to me that it wasn't "Skynyrd. Thank God they're back in form now!

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:26 PM
EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION ON THIS ERA OF THE "ABB". I ALSO HAVE THE ''HELL & HIGH WATER" COMPILATION. BUT I LIKED THESE RECORDS LONG BEFORE THE COMP CAME OUT. NEVER OWNED THEM BUT I REMEMBER IN ATLANTA 96 ROCK DID FEATURE A SONG OR TWO FROM BOTH. I THINK THE DVD OF "BROTHERS OF THE ROAD"
SHOWS THAT NO MATTER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE TWO RECORDS AS A LIVE BAND THEY STILL WERE PRETTY STEADY ..........DANGEROUS DAN'S SOLO ON ''WHIPPIN POST" I PARTICULARY ENJOYED

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 04:40 PM
Frank, how about "The Heat Is On" too, Dickey's slide work in that song is real good.
If Dan's style and sound of his Gibson guitar weren't so similar to Dickey's in this era he'd be considered right there with the other guitarists (except Duane) who've been in the band -- he played some killer solos indeed. He's even better on Gregg's two 80s albums, and that man Smoked during his second tenure with Great Southern (nothing wrong with the first tenure either).

 

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  posted on 2/28/2007 at 05:36 PM
In my opinion...

Well, first, if I understand correctly the only reason why they even got back together is they all needed the money very very badly. And when Capricorn folded (just after Enlightened Rogues) they were forced to sign with someone just to have the financial backing of a label. Unfortunately Arista saw them as a way to make money off of a big name, but wanted them to be contemporary, (the only way they thought they COULD make money off of their name for some reason), hence the addition of all the crappy synthesizers and whatnot.

If you strip the songs down, (I mean imagine them without the horrible production) there are quite a few songs that aren't bad songs, in fact If you like Dickey's country-leanings, you might even argue there aren't bad songs, just bad recordings, or bad performances or just bad mixing.

Now in my own personally opinion. I'm not a fan of songs like "Hell & High Water" no matter what. But I think "Things You Used to Do" is a great Gregg song, even with the production (which isn't too bad on that particular song). Gregg's band demo of "Never Knew How Much (I Needed You)" from his solo years before the album, which is on ONE MORE TRY-ANTHOLOGY, I prefer to the ABB version, but I think it's a good example of how these albums are way tainted by what was happening around them.

Then there's the issue of the lineup. Dan & Dickey played too similar. When the money issues weren't being solved, Yet Gregg & Dickey could not stay sober, more band issues came up and unfortunately they fired Jaimoe. Another great loss. And then we have Mike Lawler, who is a fine player, but his choices in instruments suck. What you have is a lineup of the ABB that was never really true to the original vision and done for all the wrong reasons. You can feel it in the recordings.

The broke up after a SNL performance in January 1982, but apparently it was more of a break, because they were to get back together in 1983. (They even took a promo picture in 1983, the one where they're all in front of that giant tree, and Mike Lawler is not there, but Chuck Leavell is in his place!) They were supposed to record a 3rd album for Arista, which Gregg wrote "Anything Goes" for (which ended up on his I'M NO ANGEL) album and Dickey wrote "No One to Run With" for, which he ended up performing with Betts, Hall, Leavell & Trucks. - Allegedly it was at that time that they knew they just couldn't compete in the contemporary market and that they had no interested in performing the synthesized music of the era. So they broke up at that point...

Again, this is how I understand it to be...

[Edited on 2/28/2007 by PauliG]

 
 


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